I’m not too sure about Kane. I know they are totally different players (and of different ages) but I remember when people were saying Ronaldo would give us a guaranteed 20 goal a season return and we all know how that panned out
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Indeed they are almost exactly the same age too.
If Spurs are a good enough to get top 4 next year and Kane is a missing link for that then i would understand him in some way. But they will not catch CL with or without Kane probably. So money wise, keeping a player for one year to finish 5th or 6th for the cost of 75 mil (plus wages) is a bad business.
He is going. Only question for how much. Lewy will ask crazy sum but other party must drop that price on 50-60 mil.
It is on Kane. Will he push on transfer or be a nice guy.
Anything more that £70 Million asked for by Levy and he’s taking the mick, we should just look elsewhere. Levy would be mad to not accept it, come January Kane is free to speak to whomever he wants if he doesn’t sign a contract.
I mean I get you’re saying Ronaldo didn’t work out because he didn’t but Ronaldo did literally score 24 goals.
24 league goals? Bad example then from me! But like you said he didn't work out in the end and was fading towards the end of his stint with us
Surprised he’s not heavily linked with a reunion with Poch. Can’t see us paying what Levy would demand.
With 24 goals in his first season?
The post was in response to one that said that Rice could rotate with Casemiro and Kim isn't going to replace Varane
That is why I put the caveat - OTT wages
Who says there'll be instalments?
Because that’s how our transfer business works.
He would be great here but I reckon Levy will be setting his price at something like 150 m+ if we come asking.
Kane is almost certainly going to be the PL's top ever goal scorer whether he leaves Spurs or not, that's some nearly man
No, that's how some transfers are done, not all
Varane gets injured a lot, and even when fit he is heavily rotated to stop him getting injured. If ETH wants to limit him to one match a week then Kim would play in the other (considering we normally play two games a week), plus would play almost every match during the periods where Varane is injured and would also probably be first choice to cover for Martinez. Overall he'd likely end up playing more games than Varane, albeit at least at the start Varane would generally play the 'bigger' match of the week. It'd then be up to their respective performances whether Kim would overtake him for the more important matches.
Personally I have CB a fair bit down the pecking order for what we need, but Kim's release clause does seem very tempting.
The poster you replied to did write his line-up with Rice only being Casemiro's back-up which obviously wouldn't be enough, but if we did have the two of them along with Rabiot (who was the player he did have next to Casemiro) then all three of them would easily get enough games as they rotate amongst each other. The poster strangely placed Sancho on the left with Rashford only being a back-up striker, so that's obviously not going to happen. Rashford would start the majority of games either on the left or as Kane's cover upfront.
But that’s how all our transfer are done.
I suppose there is a question about what constitutes an OTT wage. To consistently compete you need real depth in the squad and real competition for places. That really means you need four very good CBs fighting for two places. Can you really expect to pay two of them substantially lower wages?
And if the alternative to this is, in our case, sticking with the players we have or signing players from the next tier down (and therefore we can pay them less), can we expect to consistently compete with City?
It's an amazing piece of journalism, Kane will be priced out of a move so will either run his contract down or sign a new one - duh!
I've no idea how we do our transfers but I don't see any way we get Kane paying 5x20 million over 5 years, Spurs would be nuts to do a deal like that
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That’s what we have been doing. That’s why levy has every good reason not to accept 100m because it will only get him 20m per year.
I'm not surprised, he's keeping his options open which is the most sensible thing to do, he's getting a big contract no matter what happens
Absolutely no surprise there then.
Yeah, but I think the assumption that he will priced out of a move is also false. There will be a figure that gives value to Spurs and is also acceptable to a buyer (might be higher than logic would suggest).
Wait a sec. Does he have one or two years left on his contract…?
Harry has a family, 3 or 4 children I believe, and I understand he’s lived in London all his life. A Tottenham man since he was a child.
But balancing against is the prospect of living the rest of his life knowing he could have had a shot at the PL trophy had he joined a top club.
If we are right that City (Haaland) and Liverpool (Nunez) and Arsenal (bitter rival) are out of the question, that only leaves United and Newcastle, but in his mind are we realistic PL title challengers next season?
But balancing against is the prospect of living the rest of his life knowing he could have had a shot at the PL trophy had he joined a top club.
If we are right that City (Haaland) and Liverpool (Nunez) and Arsenal (bitter rival) are out of the question, that only leaves United and Newcastle, but in his mind are we realistic PL title challengers next season?
He's a bit of a loser isn't he.
He has one year left. Amusing use of “at least”.
City are being accused of cheating, paying players under the table is part of that, United can't compete with that unless they do the same
We can't recruit 2 elite level players for each position, and neither have City, what they have done is bought players that they think can rise to the next level, that's what United need to do, look for the long-term replacements of the older stars we have, Malacia is good example to use, he's not elite level but he has the potential to be, he's young and is capable enough to fill in when needed
I think if we show our interest then Harry will make it known he wants to leave. He wanted to go to City and when they wouldn’t sell him he startled and banged in 30 goals. If he asks this time he’ll be allowed to leave for the right price. Issue is how much do we pay for 30 goals. He could very well do that for 3 years. He’s done it this year in an awful team with an awful setup. Is 80mil too much for that kind of striker on a 3 year deal. I wouldn’t say so. He has that kind of season and we possibly challenge for the title. I’d spend 100 mil for a guaranteed title winning season.
I guess the thing that Levy might be hoping for is that by the time Kane is available on a free, all the other top clubs will have established first choice #9's and there isn't really anywhere for Kane to go. At which point he might just stay at Spurs.
City have Haaland so that's not happening. I don't think Kane would want to join Arsenal and be an absolute judas in the eyes of the Spurs fans. Chelsea aren't as big a rival so he might be willing, but they seem to have Nkunku joining and if they continue being a mess he might not have any chance of titles there anyway. We are definitely signing a striker this transfer window, so if that other striker is successful and establishes himself as first choice we might be out of the running. Kane likely wants to stay in England so he can get the record, so that leaves Liverpool (a 31yo striker who doesn't press doesn't really seem like a Klopp signing) or Newcastle. Obviously all these clubs would love to bring Kane in on a free even if they have other established #9's, but if he wants the record he will probably want to be undisputed first choice as he still needs about 50.
Of course, if Levy wants to take that risk it would most likely backfire on him. Maybe Chelsea do get their shit together and he's willing to join them, or worse yet he does join Arsenal. Our new striker might not be top level so we go for Kane. Klopp has shown he's willing to try different style of players. If Newcastle's rise continues and look like they'll compete for trophies in the next few seasons, Kane might be eager to join them. Or maybe he feels trophies are more important than the record and he goes to Bayern or Real.
Actually, depending on the FFP situation I wonder if Newcastle would go big for him this year and offer Levy the money he wants.
I'm convinced now we wont get him because he wont push for a move (at least at this stage).
Wouldn't mind if we just put it all toward Osimhen as a second choice. Or Ferguson + Neymar as a combination
with some money left over
Wouldn't mind if we just put it all toward Osimhen as a second choice. Or Ferguson + Neymar as a combination
with some money left overThere’s gonna be even less clubs in for him next summer, and unless he breaks the record next season at spurs then I doubt he goes abroad. He might end up retiring at spurs, which would be mental.
He would be a year older, but he would also be free. A lot of clubs would be all over that.
very trueHe'll have very specific requirements, a minimum is going to be CL football, if United don't sign a striker this summer I don't see us qualifying for the CL so that'd be us out
Free but he’d want 400k plus as the club wouldn’t need to pay a transfer fee. And with most top clubs set for a striker, including us if we can’t get Kane as I imagine we’ll sign someone this summer, I can’t see where he goes. Is anyone going to pay a striker 400k to sit on the bench? Is Kane going to move just to sit on the bench? I doubt it.
I don’t really understand why people are saying he wouldn’t push for a move? He was pushing to move to City last season but Levy wouldn’t let him. He even went on strike to avoid training for Spurs in preseason to try and make the move happen if I recall correctly