Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma

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I think Roma would have won this if they had a fit Dybala for the 90s.... Mourinho's season end in tears though.
 

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His teams never look the most fit or athletic physically- i've noticed that since during the United days. Lots of his players get injured, the pressing isn't great, although the organisation can be superb.

Will be off for a new challenge in the summer. Wonder how Roma fans will feel about his legacy? Two European finals, one won (a huge deal for them), one lost but no progression in terms of league finishes I believe. Not sure what their budget/net spend has been.
Yeah I've thought this too. Not sure what the training is like but his teams tail off. Roma looked fecked
 

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They haven’t won in 7 in the league. Basically threw top 4 away with that and banked everything on this.
If you look at Mourinho's general record in league seasons it really isn't that good for a long time. Still very dangerous in cups due to how he sets teams up in knockouts but thought for a while he should just take a nice retirement pot and manage a decent international team as he could certainly win a euros or World cup if he managed one of the major nations.

Club football he is a europa league manager these days and will be in the competition once again next season to try to annoy likes of Liverpool.
 

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I actually like Jose and would loved to see him, Smalling and Matic pick up the Europa. What was going to leave a bitter taste in the mouth was the Jose fanboys.
 

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Love how short people’s memories are, as if Sevilla didn’t also completely sh1thouse their games against us. As someone else posted above, Roma had the higher XG in extra time.
 

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Love how short people’s memories are, as if Sevilla didn’t also completely sh1thouse their games against us. As someone else posted above, Roma had the higher XG in extra time.
Roma caused plenty of issues from set pieces really. No idea how Tammy didn't score from that scramble in second half and on another night that Smalling header could've looped in.

Belotti chance was massive aswell.

Roma didn't really have many set piece chances until right near the end so that's a consequence of not attacking a huge amount.
 

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Shame for him, I think they win that with a fully fit Dybala and Abraham, the options of the bench looked sloppy in comparison.
 

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All I can say is I'm absolutely delighted the man is nowhere near our club anymore. Despite what xG might say because of a couple of set piece opportunities, he decided to park the bus from the 40th minute and he got the result he deserved. Horrible manager with shithousery tactics and even worse football.
 

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Yeah he is playing for the sack now. Same old story with Jose.
 

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I know people hate him but he has done a brilliant job at Roma.

He brought a club with no lore or European pedigree to two straight European finals winning one and nearly winning the other.

This with a side inept of quality and plagued by injuries this season.

When I saw the players who stepped up for the penalties I knew it was done.

is he past his best? Yes I think so

Is he good enough to coach a top team again? Idk but my head says no

However his aroma tenure has been a success.
 

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I know people hate him but he has done a brilliant job at Roma.

He brought a club with no lore or European pedigree to two straight European finals winning one and nearly winning the other.

This with a side inept of quality and plagued by injuries this season.

When I saw the players who stepped up for the penalties I knew it was done.

is he past his best? Yes I think so

Is he good enough to coach a top team again? Idk but my head says no

However his aroma tenure has been a success.
They played a CL SF with Di Francesco just five short years ago....

Was that side that much better than now? Alisson quality who was quickly snapped up but Fazio was linchpin of that defence that got destroyed by high line at Anfield and rest of side was similar quality to what they have now apart from Dzeko.

Also forgot they played that Europa SF with Man. United just two years back under Fonesca.

So main difference is with Mourinho they at least don't implode in SFs and can get to play finals but bit bemused by this sudden narrative Roma are complete minnows on european stage, they should always be in the mix for Quarters and odd SF if they're in either europa competition.

Ultimately their Serie A performance has been disappointing again when you add in Juventus points deduction.
 

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They played a CL SF with Di Francesco just five short years ago....

Was that side that much better than now? Alisson quality who was quickly snapped up but Fazio was linchpin of that defence that got destroyed by high line at Anfield and rest of side was similar quality to what they have now apart from Dzeko.

Also forgot they played that Europa SF with Man. United just two years back under Fonesca.

So main difference is with Mourinho they at least don't implode in SFs and can get to play finals but bit bemused by this sudden narrative Roma are complete minnows on european stage, they should always be in the mix for Quarters and odd SF if they're in either europa competition.

Ultimately their Serie A performance has been disappointing again when you add in Juventus points deduction.
I think the standards with Jose have now dropped to an extent where you can probably consider what he is doing now as "success".
 

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They just looked like a team from 10 years ago. Despite my better judgment I still like Jose as a personality but everything his detractors say about him as a coach is true. Overly defensive and has not learned how to coach a team to play consistently on the front foot in the modern era.
 

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Dunno why Jose is angry. I thought the ref was pretty flawless tonight.
 

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Dunno why Jose is angry. I thought the ref was pretty flawless tonight.
How else is he supposed to divert attention away from his awful tactics and sending two center backs to take penalties while there were attackers on the pitch?
 

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Well done Sevilla, good that they won Europa league.
 

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Now i know Jose celebrated it he won another Champions league but how big of achievement was it winning the conference League last season? David Moyes and West Ham could win that cup next week. Roma reached the Champions league semi final 5 seasons ago that's a bigger achievement than reaching this years Europa league final.

Looks like a 2nd season in a row to finish 6th in Serie A with 63 points. The two season before he arrived they finished 7th with 62 points and 5th with 70 points

Listening to the post match press conference, typical Jose blaming the ref saying his side was cheated. Every he did was grand and trained a lot on penalties at least he didn't insult Roma supporters with his football heritage rant after losing to Sevilla in Europe this time.
 

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Roma was actually a better team in the 1st half, was 50-50 in the 2nd but they still had 2 golden chances to win it before ET, Belotti hitting near the post from 1 on 1 and before penaltes with Abraham hitting the bar.
 

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The finished one ?

Still needs to go find some joy. Hasn't been the same since he left real madrid.
 

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Was that side that much better than now? Alisson quality who was quickly snapped up but Fazio was linchpin of that defence that got destroyed by high line at Anfield and rest of side was similar quality to what they have now apart from Dzeko.
Just the 2 names you mentioned are huge. They went from one of the best gk in the world in Alisson, to one of the worst in Rui Patricio. Dzeko is not the best goalscorer around but he does score at least. Abraham and Belotti make Weghorst look average. And that's without getting into De Rossi-Naingolann in midfield vs old man Matic and Cristante. Dybala is the only player who lets them bridge the gap, and he barely came back from injury for this game and while he was fit they were winning comfortably
 

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Football Erritaj. Unlucky you odious toad
 

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His, and his staff’s, histrionics on the touchline were - quite frankly - embarrassing. Taylor had a great game. Would loved for him to have got out of that people carrier and chinned the arrogant twat.
 

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Sevilla would be in pot 1 due to winning the Europa right? Reckon they might be the easiest pot 1 team in the Champions League next year?
You know that Liverpool will get them in their group……oh shit, I forgot they’re not in it!
 

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His football is an eye sore but I was hoping he'd beat Sevilla last night.
Exacly. I can't stand Sevilla. they got a taste of their own shithousery yesterday a bit. Both teams are shit though and the match was an eyesore. The one thing I don't understand is why there wasn't a penalty called for a clear handball against Sevilla. For other way around it was correctly ruled out as the ball was played. But against Sevilla situation defenders hand was not near the body. Clearly the ball hit it. Some quick replays showed it but very quickly VAR room swept it under the carpet. Too much manipulation with VAR. Coaches should have a few challenges per game to force a referee to look at the incident more closely. Too bad as I wanted Roma to undeservedly win this game with exactly this kind of decision vs Sevilla. :)
 

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His days of being a top level manager are done, it's sad to see in some sense but funny in another.
A bit like Wenger but without the humility (at the end of his reign).
 

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Jose Mourinho is probably a decent coach if the bar is Moyes and Solskjaer. At Rome he currently have the lowest point per game average of any coach there for the past decade. And as always, he dont really leave much behind for the next coach

A list with coaches like Ranieri, Fonseca, di Francesco and Rudi Garcia. Spalleti, of course, was on another level.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/as-rom/mitarbeiterhistorie/verein/12
 

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Nothing is changing. Tactics are terrible and outdated. Still surprised he's lasted two years though