Spouting.
I don't necessarily disagree with you fully, but no offence intended I think you are limiting your scope to solely the midfield as an isolated unit. Yes, in a vacuum I think you'd want someone more defensively-minded beside Bruno and Casemiro, but I just don't think you can look solely at the midfield without the broader context of the team.
Yeah. He’s a good player, no doubt. He’s not exciting exactly but I am excited to see how EtH uses him. He will improve us in one way or another, I’m sure.
I think this is the nail on the head - he's not flashy at all but I do not understand how anyone can argue against multiple years of evidence that he's an effective player.
I don't think it's baffling really.
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Saves them having to replace Fofana who has been terrible. I’m sure Poch has played 3 at the back and with Nkunku coming in they are better off playing 352.
It's literally the opposite to De Jong. We agreed a fee with Barca, not the player who never wanted the move.
No it’s not bellendclass. Think we’re on to a winner then turns out we’re not. Trying to be smart and then missing out. Literally the opposite of the opposite.
You're just wrong aren't you.
I am very, very correct
He's not going to come for free or be on small wages. Rabiot is an 'easy' one to make because it's a free transfer albeit probably on 'high' wages but his profile makes the most sense for a team that wants to be more in control next season; it's literally what ETH has been saying. The 7-0 and the other various away game losses have unfortunately be fairly consistent and whilst that particular game was horrendous, it wasn't that 'bothering' to me as a one off because of all the other tangible progress we've made. In fact, it's games like those that make me more baffled by this signing; much of our success is due to our low block defending, counter pressing and the tendency to let teams come at us, so we can play an open game (for more transitions). It's been a pragmatic approach this season but a Mount signing is just another side step in that direction.
Like I said, happy to eat humble pie next year but unless we have a super successful and productive summer transfer market (hitting all the right targets and profile of players) along with another evolution of ETH's coaching, on paper this just sounds like a strange first signing.
Of course you are
My argument was that John O'Shea and Mount are incomparable as football players other than totally superficial reasons. That is what I was talking about and I'm pretty sure I know it. Also definitely not trying to force an argument as I'm pretty sure there isn't any logical argument that O'Shea and Mount are comparable in any way other than from being versitile and born within a few hours of eachother.
And martinez and casemiro and Eriksen and got rashford in his best form ? And got us back to cl
This is why I'm not too bothered about this Mount signing. I don't think you can judge Mount based on his performances this season especially considering the drastic differences in some of our own players performances last season. Chelsea are in more of a mess than we were last season not one of their players have had a good season. Kovacic has been terrible for example but Pep still wants him...
Obviously a Chelsea brief but seeing as they only have 29 days to balance the books they’re not really in control of the situation like they’d like.
Mount and Rabiot wouldn’t cost much more than we’d get selling McTominay and Fred either to be honest.
If we managed to get £30-£40 million for Maguire or off a deal for Mount it’d probably be up there with the best business we’ve done post Fergie.
Not sure anyone else is in more control than Chelsea in this scenario. Mount will not be the first to go and they will try and convince him up until the last minute to stay. Colwill, Chalobah and Gallagher will likely go before him and raise a fair wedge. They have no incentive to resolve the mount situation quickly, unless we're going to pay their valuation.
Ah there seems a lot of chatter about his exit for a while now. He might be pushing to go. They will not want unhappy players in what is already a messy camp.
No need to start being personal / bitchy. It only shows off your own limitations.
While that may be true, I still don't think that means they wrap it up quickly. For all we know they could be selling a load of players to fund his renewal. It's similar to the Kane scenario, where there's no real incentive to make it easy for a rival to buy one of your players.
Anything is possible. We know feck all one way or another.
Unless Chelsea invent their own iberian microclimate, start running the club more along the lines of a religious cult, and annually invent baroque financial instruments to avoid addressing a debt akin to a central african state's GDP, then they're nothing much like Barcelona...
Which begs the question: why does this thread title say "personal terms agreed"? I have tried scrolling back for which source stated this but found nothing
Might have that on my headstone. Very profound.
Aye, but even if it's true, it only takes the club to dig in to feck it up. Could be done in days or it could be a FDJ saga in reverse with the player saying yes and the club saying no.
Yeah agreed with that.
Because again, people are looking at your midfield in isolation instead of how it fits into the team as a whole.
Mad to let Colwill go. His value could potentially double by this time next year. (I have no idea on his contract situation admittedly).
Agreed, maybe they won't, but I see Brighton pushing hard for him and it may tempt them too much where they need to raise cash.
Two points here:
It's rare for us to have opposition posters, who watch their team more regularly and know their players much better, giving praise and justifying to United posters who don't think the player is any good or wouldn't be a good fit
