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Manchester City 2:1 Manchester United

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Sat, 03 June 2023

L1nk

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Feck it, definitely will be an unpopular opinion. But why are Manchester United expected to hold moral standards when Arsenal have rapist Partey nearly being the difference winning the league. Benzema & Ribery getting with underage women and winning leagues and City cheating like mad. I'm all in for Qatar at this point when SJR is keeping the leeches on.
Because of what you just said, there are multiple people in this forum calling City plastic, cheaters, oil money people. You don't want United to stand for something more than that? What's the point in winning a trophy if it's soulless like that
 

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Nope.

You're free to continue your little campaign to be a Top Red™ social media fanboy, I won't get in your way.

I'll be too busy calling it as it is, as always.
I'll actually be at the ground mate. Good luck watching it all from your sofa through gnashed teeth like some sort of chore.
 

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Gutted but doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, they'll never be taken seriously as an actual football club, just a state run sportswashing machine that sold their soul.
I’m so tired of hearing this. Nobody outside England gives a flying flip about City’s ownership. They are winning trophies and have become an international brand in the span of a decade. The idea that they’re not being taken seriously is simply untrue. They are considered the best team in the world…no asterisks. United fans can sit on their high horses, but City are lifting trophies. Pretty sure no fan in the world (outside a few of ours) would rather be in our position than theirs.
 

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Thought we did suprisingly well. The players gave everything. Sometimes you just don't have the luck.

 

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Can someone who knows football explain to me why Eriksen has been playing for so long? What the Ten Hag has been thinking?
 

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Bolded is correct. Relentless Liverpool of recent years is indeed a force of nature -- scary to think how close they were to a quadruple last season. With this City side I feel we can close the gap in a transfer window or two.
But like I said, when they’re not doping, even Liverpool are nothing special
 

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Very disappointed not to have won that, also it’s another step towards the Treble for City which is also going to feel painful.

In terms of the game, City were the favourites and were the better team on the day so no complaints about the result. They are the best team in the world, but I didn’t think we were that far away from them, we were competitive and could have scored a second. Tactics were fine as was individual performances. What let us down was poor concentration at critical moments which they punished us for and a lack of quality in the team compared to City, but we competed well.

It’s a downer to what has been a good season for them team. We met our targets and got a trophy too. The standard is there to see for our manager and whoever is owning the club next season, we need a good window to improve the team and to help us get there, because I don’t think we are a million miles away.
 

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City were poor, we were poorer at either end (De Gea, no striker)

Long season, bring on some good transfers (and Glazers out)
 

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Feeling fecking sick. We were shite in our gameplay, and it just shows the gulf in standards when we have to rely on a young Garnacho to try & bail us out. Too much (unfair) responsibility on his shoulders.

Reckon the only bright side is clearly it shows whichever new owners that we have to invest if we are to go back up to the top.

Counting on u, Inter....Sigh.
 

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We knew they would have more possession. A lot of it was pretty non-threatening in the first and middle third. Ten Hag tactically did really well to stifle them.

Sancho is really frustrating. I would seriously consider selling him or at the very least, loaning him out. Whatever funk he is in, he clearly doesn’t have the confidence and character to play through it.

For me, DeGea was partially at fault for both goals. He’s always had issues with concentration and performing in big moments. I believe if that first goal was a shot later in the match, he would’ve had a dive at it. Not saying he would’ve saved it, but we’ve seen him save those types of shots before. The second he clearly should’ve saved. For those of you faulting Varane, I just don’t see it. Dave is 6’3” / 6’4”. He can see where the ball is going, he knows Gundogan has had a go. “Waiting” for a deflection? Or simply losing concentration? I guarantee Van Der Sar never would have been beaten there.

Fred. What can we say, he’s very limited as a player. Against lower table sides without much quality in midfield, he can do well. But he’s very much just an energizer bunny without much tactical discipline. That works fine In a Brazil team where there is technical quality all over the pitch. But in this team, he’s just not good enough.

In the end, some of these holdovers from previous managers have a bit of a weak mentality. Fred, DeGea, Sancho are problems in this sense. Hopefully Ten Hag can address these weaknesses in the summer.
 

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The amount of loose balls and 50/50's lost was unforgivable. Even when we did dispossess Rodri we still didn't come out with the ball. We've been terrible for years at contesting these things! Also, when a City player deals with a long ball they cushion the head comfortably to a nearby player, whereas, we just put our head through it and give is straight back to the opposition. Absolutely no composure whatsoever.

Speaking of which, I can forgive forced errors, but the number of unforced passing errors in our players is unacceptable; not just in this game but in general. Five yard passes overhit by Bruno, AWB fluffing basic link-up moves, Fred letting the ball bounce before trying to deal with ti.
 

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The most annoying thing is they were there for the taking a bit today, we just had too many passengers. We needed them to be a bit off and us to be at our absolute best… and we got half of that, and kept the giant yeti quiet, but then we had Sancho, Eriksen & Rashford pulling complete shockers which just wasn’t enough. It was easy for them for stretches. Still only lost to a crap bit of keeping from a long range effort and could’ve got an equaliser a couple of times.

On the plus side, Garnacho was instantly the best player on the pitch for 20 minutes… though since Rashford had crocked himself by then and we had no more subs, there was no way we were gonna hang on for 30 minutes of ET with 10 men.

Annoying, but not the worst thing that could’ve happened. We go into the new season with some pride at least.


To those who have been so against Qatari ownership, get used to this post match feeling, it will happen over and over again under the Glazers/SJR.
If that’s the first thing you’re thinking after an FA Cup final you can feck right off. Pathetic. Touch some grass.
 
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Competed, but beaten by a much better team in the end. No real shame in it.

Lots of work to do this summer.
Exactly, there is a lot of work to do this summer and when we recruit new players, we need to seriously sign players with character and a wining mentality, Let’s hope a quick sale happens now and all the Glazers feck off so we can start the huge rebuild from top to bottom !
 

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There's no doubt about it, it's an absolutely garbage way to end the season. It just simply is. However, I don't think we disgraced ourselves, and overall you'd have to say it's been a good season for us.

You simply can't compete with a team who don't adhere to the rules. Everything comes back to their cheating. It is the sole reason they are in the position they are in.
 

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But we absolutely did, though. They brought on Foden and Laporte and us a teenager and Besiktas reject. There was nothing more we could have done.
We were absolute garbage. No urgency, no desire. Nothing. Extremely comfortable win for City. We lose the ball and just stand off it. Going forward absolute crap. We passed the ball backwards on a free kick in our own half!!!!! What's that about??

But yeah we played great.
 

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Despite some of the bollcoks people will come up with, I'm proud of the boys today.

City weren't able to play their normal game. Sure, they passed it as they do, and at times, got into good areas, but those attacking overloads in the wide areas were shut off for the majority of the game.

Other than Gundogan's two great efforts, they were restricted to very few chances, when, if you look at it, is very good considering they've been steam rolling teams of late.

Having watched that, it's clear to see what our priorities should be. A striker, midfielder and goalkeeper. Spend big on those positions and in my opinion, we'll give it a right go next season.

ten Hag has done all he could with the team available to him, and as I said, I'm fecking proud of the boys today.

Roll on next season!
 

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Reminded me of the 1999 final but we were Newcastle. We needed to be at our very best to have a chance and we were a long way from that. but that's what happens if you don't carry a threat up front. Time to show the door to DDG, Fred, Sancho, obviously the loanees
 

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Another day we could’ve won it. Ah well onwards and upwards.

Hope this gives the squad a bit of additional fire to challenge properly next season.
This could be as good as it gets for this squad.

All depends on the takeover. A lot of our best players like Shaw and Rashford might not be destined to win much here in their careers but I hope not.

Takes time to be successful and get a mentality. We are kinda still at the start of that.
 

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Reading the comments in here is a bit depressing. Resignation.
It's the reality mate. They're simply better than us. Reality is usually depressing that's all.

Anyway the positive from this is whoever the next owner they'd know we really need to spend big this summer.
 

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Tierney was incredibly weak in the last third of the match. Allowed city to do what they want with timewasting and unbelievably added 4 minutes, of which the ball was in play for around 60 seconds.
 

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Keano says what I did - need a keeper and world-class striker. Even Ian Wright can see the problem with DDG
"For Man United, you need a world-class goalkeeper and he isn't"- Roy Keane
 
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I thought we played reasonably well but the lack of quality hurt us. Bringing on Weghurst and McTominay to win the game Is not good enough.
 

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Because of what you just said, there are multiple people in this forum calling City plastic, cheaters, oil money people. You don't want United to stand for something more than that? What's the point in winning a trophy if it's soulless like that
What's they point when no one cares about any of that once a trophy is won? It seems to be all virtue signalling, oh a club cheated with 115 charges? BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME!
 

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If they were honest with themselves, most already knew we were unlikely to have won this final, but we always live on hope.
There was always a half chance.

Apart from City being way ahead of us in most departments as well as in playing style, the weaknesses in our squad are still obvious.
Even with the extra midfield player today, we are a weak, soft side.
Fred tries really hard but is far too small and lightweight and easily gets brushed of the ball and ahead of Casemiro, there wasn’t a single player who could win the one-to-ones, press properly and with intent and aggression, or impose themselves on the opposition midfield or defence.
Rashford, Sancho, Bruno and Eriksen are all poor in these areas.
It’ll take more than bringing in a couple of strikers to address the soft core of this squad.

We need a more solid central MF.
Casemiro has been a key acquisition this season, but he’s 31 and has been looking tired.
Soon the injuries will start creeping in.
We need another player who can perform a similar role and also partner him in order to control the midfield, dictate play and stop other teams from progressing through the central areas.
Just look how City do that, with Rodri at the core (more recently backed up by Stone) and with Gundogan , De Bruyne and Silva buzzing around in close support, pressing, breaking up play and nicking the ball right off the feet of opponents, as well as being involved in their slick progressive passing moves.

We have a long way to go to get close to that sort of midfield dominance in games.
 

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Good game for a neutral, the result was never certain and you could easily have snatched the goal to take it to extra time.

You certainly weren’t battered as many were predicting.
 

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We were absolute garbage. No urgency, no desire. Nothing. Extremely comfortable win for City. We lose the ball and just stand off it. Going forward absolute crap. We passed the ball backwards on a free kick in our own half!!!!! What's that about??

But yeah we played great.
You don’t play City and race around like lunatics.

Given the players we had available the only thing we could do was what we did. Sit back, flood the midfield, defend well and try to snatch a goal or two on the transition.

We weren’t too far away from doing that in the end. Our goalkeeper having arms like spaghetti doesn’t help either.
 

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Better team won . DDG should have saved the second. Just shows only Qatar will bring us up to city’s level. Looked fitter, sharper and stronger all game. I can only hope city get busted by the FFP stuff, because they look untouchable
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Despite some of the bollcoks people will come up with, I'm proud of the boys today.

City weren't able to play their normal game. Sure, they passed it as they do, and at times, got into good areas, but those attacking overloads in the wide areas were shut off for the majority of the game.

Other than Gundogan's two great efforts, they were restricted to very few chances, when, if you look at it, is very good considering they've been steam rolling teams of late.

Having watched that, it's clear to see what our priorities should be. A striker, midfielder and goalkeeper. Spend big on those positions and in my opinion, we'll give it a right go next season.

ten Hag has done all he could with the team available to him, and as I said, I'm fecking proud of the boys today.

Roll on next season!
Yeah exactly my thoughts. Desperate for a striker but we did well today. considering the state we were in last season it's been a decent season.

Get a good striker in and look at replacing de gea we will be in better shape. Midfield does need addressing too. Suppose it depends on funds available
 

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All in all, I'd have settled for a return to the Champions League if it had been offered in August. Just need to strengthen the spine: keeper, tough-as-nails midfielder and top top striker
 

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You don’t play City and race around like lunatics.

Given the players we had available the only thing we could do was what we did. Sit back, flood the midfield, defend well and try to snatch a goal or two on the transition.

We weren’t too far away from doing that in the end. Our goalkeeper having arms like spaghetti doesn’t help either.
No. You don't. But you at least try.
 

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Eriksen was so poor today. After his substitution we started playing decently.

Get rid of him, buy 2 or 3 world class players and we'll be a good team.
Totally agree the game passed him by, he can’t cut at 31/32 in EPL, he’s had moments this season but at best he’s a 20/25 min substitute now, we desperately need 3 midfield players like Casemeiro, Veratti and Barella or Mount we need energy and creativity In that midfield
 

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Our subs to change the game were loanee from Burnley, young kid and a midfielder who can't play in midfield for Scotland.
They had on the bench;
Alvarez
Mahrez
Foden
Laporte

Ridiculous really.
 

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