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Newcastle won the 2006 intertoto Cup, because they advanced further in the UEFA Cup than the other 10 co-winners.

The whole format for that thing was bonkers.

 

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The intertoto cup was a weird cup. Wasn’t it whoever was the best FairPlay team in the league?
 

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The intertoto cup was a weird cup. Wasn’t it whoever was the best FairPlay team in the league?
In a way it was the precursor to the current Conference League. Which has a far more reasonable format, so UEFA learned something in the meantime...
 

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We’ve never lost in the league at Old Trafford when leading at halve time. Seems like a mad stat that.
 

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We’ve never lost in the league at Old Trafford when leading at halve time. Seems like a mad stat that.
In the Premier League, to be precise. It did happen in the old First Division.
 

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Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes were both suspended for three league games each after being sent off in a pre season friendly in 2006.

Don't think I've ever heard of that happening before or since, but opposition fans still think United had preferential treatment from the authorities back then.
 

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This might have been mentioned before but cba reading the whole thread!

Man City are the only club to get the relegated (1938) the season after winning the league (1937).

In the season they were relegated they were the league's top scorers (80 goals) and had a positive goal difference (+3).
 

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Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes were both suspended for three league games each after being sent off in a pre season friendly in 2006.

Don't think I've ever heard of that happening before or since, but opposition fans still think United had preferential treatment from the authorities back then.
This one still annoys me now
 

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RVP was a game changer for us in his first season. The next season, he was inconsistent and not as good - he also played 17 games fewer in the league for us that season due to injuries. Not really bad, but clearly nowhere near as good as he was in the first season.
Sadly one of the things I most remember about RVP that season is him hitting a dip in the spring, coniciding with the loss to Madrid when he missed 5/6 chances over the 2 legs that he had been putting away with ease all season.
 

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Something weird like that. Does anyone remember the Anglo Saxon cup?
Had to Google that.

There was also an Anglo Italian cup, Italy and England.

Newcastle won that.

The Texaco cup, Scotland/England/Ireland.

Newcastle won that twice.

The inter city fairs cup.

Newcastle also won that.

Their list of pointless trophies is astonishing.
 

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Did the Intertoto Cup actually exist? Because it almost never got talked about by fans or clubs or journalists. Seemed more like a metaphysical concept that anything else.
 

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In Fergie's reign during the PL, Man Utd only outspent other teams in just three out of 21 seasons.
 

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In Fergie's reign during the PL, Man Utd only outspent other teams in just three out of 21 seasons.
It's one of those facts that may seem astonishing in the football world of today, but for those of us who lived through these times, it makes perfect sense. Firstly, Ferguson's formative years were the second half of the 80s. By the time of the PL's inaugural season, SAF had figured things out and United were ready to challenge for the title. So, it was more a case of a few final brush strokes than throwing money away to see how many holes we can plug.

And when the time finally came to breathe new life into the squad and reinvent the formula, we were blessed with one of the finest crops of local talents emerging through the ranks. This provided us with stability and allowed us, for about a decade, to watch from a safe distance the repercussions of the Bosman Ruling that completely changed the football market and saw the foreign players in England's top-flight competition becoming the majority by 2004 from numbering just 13 in 1992.

Toward the tail-end of Fergie's reign, United possessed enough fear factor, more so at OT, to get the job done. We were the team to beat. Add to this that in the period from Mourinho's sacking right up until Pep and Klopp came to the island, the overall quality of the league wasn't something to write home about.
 

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In Fergie's reign during the PL, Man Utd only outspent other teams in just three out of 21 seasons.
And the opposite are Newcastle. They were the biggest spenders in England in the 90s. At one stage, like from 90 until 98 their total spend in that period was twice as high as United’s and their net spend was 4-5 times as high as United’s. And what do they have to show for it? Not even a league cup!
 

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He wasn’t really a goal scorer when he joined you. He was a one trick pony step over merchant who flattered to deceive. Took 5 seasons for him to start scoring consistently and then elevated his game at Madrid. There is a reason they went for Robben before Ronaldo. So these stats match up.
Just To clarify, they went for Robben because we convinced Ronaldo to stay. He definitely wasn't a preference over Ronaldo.

Robben scored 3 goals the season before Madrid brought him. Ronaldo scored 23.
 

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The intertoto cup was a weird cup. Wasn’t it whoever was the best FairPlay team in the league?
It was application based, even in the 90s uefa controlled version. After that i think it came down to league position, so if only one team from a league applied they would get in even if they were relegated. the cutoff point for application must have been late, because Juventus played the 1999 version after finishing 7th, which was the same points as the two uefa cup qualifiers directly above them. It mostly seems to have been used as a way to get into the uefa cup by teams that narrowly missed out on a european tournament place.
 

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Had to Google that.

There was also an Anglo Italian cup, Italy and England.

Newcastle won that.

The Texaco cup, Scotland/England/Ireland.

Newcastle won that twice.

The inter city fairs cup.

Newcastle also won that.

Their list of pointless trophies is astonishing.
The fairs cup was a quite legit tough tournament once they started using league position for invites. It was basically the 60s uefa cup by the time Newcastle won it, and was turned directly into it when uefa took over.
 

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It took Rooney 45 years to break the England goalscoring record.
It only took Kane 8 years to break the England goalscoring record.
 

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It took Rooney 45 years to break the England goalscoring record.
It only took Kane 8 years to break the England goalscoring record.
Feck me, Rooney had a hell of a long career there!
 

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This might have been mentioned before but cba reading the whole thread!

Man City are the only club to get the relegated (1938) the season after winning the league (1937).

In the season they were relegated they were the league's top scorers (80 goals) and had a positive goal difference (+3).
This is insane. Imagine being top scorers and being relegated :lol:
 

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This one still annoys me now
This happened to my team a few years ago. Jozo simunovic got sent off in a pre season friendly in Switzerland and then had to serve a two game ban in our league. Load of Celtic fans as usual crying conspiracy and that the SFA is out to get us , when in reality it was the decision of the Swiss FA and their referee who deemed it serious enough to report it to our FA and implement a ban.
Same would have happened in scholes and rooneys cases. Would have had little to do with the English FA, but the Association and referee where the match was played (unless it was played in england)
If a tackle or behaviour is deemed serious enough in a friendly it will be reported and made to serve a ban.
 

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If a tackle or behaviour is deemed serious enough in a friendly it will be reported and made to serve a ban
No idea how serious your boys tackle/incident was but Scholes's and Rooney's were quite innocuous in my opinion. Not going to argue if the incident is worth a red, just not serious enough to be enforced in real matches.


Can't find a video of Scholes's red.
 

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Bryan Robson played in the Premier league for Middlesbrough in Highbury in 1997. Thought he had finished playing long before then.
 

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No idea how serious your boys tackle/incident was but Scholes's and Rooney's were quite innocuous in my opinion. Not going to argue if the incident is worth a red, just not serious enough to be enforced in real matches.


Can't find a video of Scholes's red.

Did Becks get a ban when we played Necaxa?

 

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Oh of course, I'm not disagreeing that it's true or trying to correct you.

Just having a bit of a whine about the fact that it is true. I don't think players should really get medals or be called a winner of something for doing so little. They could have brought me on as a substitute in those matches instead of him and it wouldn't have changed the outcomes.
How many third choice goalkeepers have world cup medals and have never played a game in the tournament?