Maguire | he stays!

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Or because they have had sufficient interest and believe in their talent to arrive at a big club eventually rather than settle at West Ham? Players like Amrabat and Todibo simply would say no to West Ham in this situation because the chance exists for them to join a big club. It might not happen, but they'd rather stay and hold out on the chance it happens. And once their agents say they are willing to join others who are not Man United if that offer never comes, then far more clubs would bid.
You didn't get the point. If we want over 70 million pounds for McT and Maguire and we claim that Amrabat and Todibo are better, then their teams will certainly ask for more than that. The selling price is first and foremost up to the teams, not up to the players.
 

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You didn't get the point. If we want over 70 million pounds for McT and Maguire and we claim that Amrabat and Todibo are better, then their teams will certainly ask for more than that. The selling price is first and foremost up to the teams, not up to the players.
Yeah that is very true
 

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This is one of those ones. We’ve rejected £30m if we get more it’ll look like genius negotiating, if the deal falls it’ll look like incompetence.

I believe it’s a risk we have to take for the long term. Yeah we might end up stuck with Maguire, yeah if he doesn’t get sold this summer then next year or in the winter it’ll be half the price or a loan. But we can’t undo 10 years of over paying and underselling without walking away from one or two deals, both buys and sales.

Now ideally on the buy front we could walk away from players we have no real interest in actually buying. Eg make a £50m offer for a player we know is valued at £80 go up to £65m then do a City and pull out.
 

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You didn't get the point. If we want over 70 million pounds for McT and Maguire and we claim that Amrabat and Todibo are better, then their teams will certainly ask for more than that. The selling price is first and foremost up to the teams, not up to the players.
Amrabat is on last year of his contract so Fiorentina can't ask too much.
Todibo is targeted to be fourth choice, something that Maguire is more than capable of. But Maguire has already alot of baggage and on too much money so we replace him with slightly worse player, but with the much cheaper wage and potential to be better
 

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Amrabat is on last year of his contract so Fiorentina can't ask too much.
Todibo is targeted to be fourth choice, something that Maguire is more than capable of. But Maguire has already alot of baggage and on too much money so we replace him with slightly worse player, but with the much cheaper wage and potential to be better
Not convinced Todibo is capable of being slightly worse than Maguire in a United shirt. It takes some doing. Would he lose pace and agility overnight when transferring from Nice? Otherwise I don't see it. Even Lindelof looked significantly better than Maguire of late.
 

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How exactly can they build on cup competitions? They got 40 pts in the league last season and sold their absolute best player.

The ruined confidence part I agree with, that’s the only potential danger in this one for them. Still very much worth taking a gamble though.
Their league performance didn’t reflect what they were capable of. The main reason is the squad depth to deal with European competition. It’s a big demand for EPL clubs because the competition in EPL is so fierce.
We saw it also in Brighton during the last phase of the previous season. When they had to play two games per week, they basically could only manage one win and one loss every two games.
It will be interesting to see how they handle European this coming season.
 

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Not convinced Todibo is capable of being slightly worse than Maguire in a United shirt. It takes some doing. Would he lose pace and agility overnight when transferring from Nice? Otherwise I don't see it. Even Lindelof looked significantly better than Maguire of late.
I mean peak Maguire is pretty good, granted he's not that player now, so overall I don't think Todibo is better than Maguire, but he could be better in a few years, and he doesn't have the baggage that Maguire has.
His price reflect that, young player with a lot to prove.
 

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There is something wrong with the bloke if he walks into West Ham and happily takes the captains armband. Still happy if that element helps convince him to go though.
 

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There are reports This morning that Everton are interested in him and could swap him for midfielder Amadou Onana who united have been looking at.
 

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Amrabat is on last year of his contract so Fiorentina can't ask too much.
Todibo is targeted to be fourth choice, something that Maguire is more than capable of. But Maguire has already alot of baggage and on too much money so we replace him with slightly worse player, but with the much cheaper wage and potential to be better
Now we have signed Evans for a year I would be surprised if Maquire wasn't sixth choice (remember Shaw as CB too), actually given that he plays the role for Scotland, would even rather keep McT as a CB option.

Regardless of this I do not feel comfortable fielding Maquire even in Carling cup games, I am not sure I can remember the last game he played and did not have a howler.

He may improve if he gets his confidence back playing under Moyes system and good luck to him, I would take any offer just to get rid, at this point he is just a distraction brings absolutely nothing to the table and if we had to rely on him for any length of time as a first 11 starter well could kiss any silverware goodbye
 

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We either sell too cheap or we're too greedy. No middle ground.
We sell too cheap because we are too greedy when the players still have value. We could have sold Henderson for a bunch of money years ago, same for some academy players. But when the players have some value, we either refuse to sell them or put absurd prices (like in this case), then keep those players past their expiry dates and then wonder why we have to sell cheap or loan them when no one wants them anymore. While those players are on double the wages they would get somewhere else.

Smart clubs sell players when their stock is high. We refuse to do so, give higher wages than they should be on, so no wonder we eventually sell too low.
 

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Imagine paying money for this player. Take it and run.
 

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feck West Ham - Maguire is more than 30m in this market
If that was the case they'd be loads of clubs chasing his signature, yet only one has bid.

Beyond squeezing out a few more million unless another bidder comes along we'll have to accept West Hams final bid.

They're fecking nuts to sign him even for 30 million. He's already slow as feck and won't age well.
 

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So Maguire is seriously going to fetch the same fee that we paid for World Cup winner and five times Champions League winner Raphael Varane?

I love Moyes now.
 

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Imagine paying money for this player. Take it and run.
He’s a good player and that’s why we paid £80m for him. I’m sure he’ll prove it at West Ham.
At United, his confidence has been shot to pieces.
 

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Best thing for United and Maguire. West Ham is a good move for him.
Excellent. That account has been pretty reliable but will wait for the big sources to confirm before getting excited.
Sky Sports are reporting the same.