My explanation was going to be worse
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
If there's any truth to this, I'm almost hoping for us to still get Pavard and he'll drop to 6th choice. Playing with the reserves, vs lower division teams when and if we face them and dropping his place in the national team.
I know you're getting paid for this, it's what puts food on your table, but ffs, don't you want to play most of the games?
I know you're getting paid for this, it's what puts food on your table, but ffs, don't you want to play most of the games?
*reasonable football supporter*: if I were in charge I would strap Maguire into a Saw-like device for the remainder of his contract, crushing his head between two stone slabs.
We should be - when he's on such high wages.
Two things can't be true:
1. Harry believes that he's good enough to playing every week and back as a key part of the England setup
2. Harry would prefer to not play again, forego the above and just sit and collect c. 90k a week more wages
If I were United I'd hang him out to dry in the press. Sources close to the club were apparently baffled that Maguire - who has constantly expressed how much he needs to be playing - would refuse a chance to join a storied club in a starting role, just to earn more wages at United. United were 100% behind the move and had agreed all terms with WHU, but the player is holding out for more money, rather than fighting for his England place.
1. Harry believes that he's good enough to playing every week and back as a key part of the England setup
2. Harry would prefer to not play again, forego the above and just sit and collect c. 90k a week more wages
If I were United I'd hang him out to dry in the press. Sources close to the club were apparently baffled that Maguire - who has constantly expressed how much he needs to be playing - would refuse a chance to join a storied club in a starting role, just to earn more wages at United. United were 100% behind the move and had agreed all terms with WHU, but the player is holding out for more money, rather than fighting for his England place.
He barely registers on the radar because he barely featured, he was a dick yes but he didn't want to leave Madrid, didn't want to be here and had no issues leaving when the situation was clearly not worth continuing.
Maguire doesn't help himself because of his attitude and his ego, which unlike Di Maria, is a completely unwarranted ego. I genuinely can't stand to look at him knowing he thinks he's incredible and that he has nothing to prove at United, that and basically holding the club to ransom if he was to leave. This despite the fact he isn't good enough to start for us and if Southgate isn't a tool (he is) he should lose his England place but because he thinks he deserves to be at United and get paid a stupid amount of money considering his actual skillset he demands we pay him millions to go to West Ham.
I cannot stand him i'm sorry, again, it's not entirely his fault that he's had bad patches playing for us, but even then he never takes any accountability for those, he just rubs people up the wrong way.
Silly move by Maguire if true. Either he genuinely thinks he is prime Baresi level, or he has advisors in his ear giving him pretty bad advice.. could be both
If he holds tight, just have him cleaning boots and putting the cones out, he might realise hes not as good as he thinks then
If he holds tight, just have him cleaning boots and putting the cones out, he might realise hes not as good as he thinks then
Fine move by him, he wants £ to feck off and he's entitled to it.
Folks saying we should get Pavard or Todibo and push Maguire to 6th choice don’t get it, we can’t get them until Maguire moves on as we need the money from that sale to buy either one. It’s so frustrating, just go Maguire
Tbf I don’t blame him I wouldn’t move too if 90k per week was on the line. Its the clubs fault for dishing out huge contracts.
Some players are desperate to play and take huge paycuts but he’s 30 years old, I think we are saddled with him till his contract runs out
ETHs comments yesterday about „happy to have him, fight for his place“ don’t help either. We gotta be much more harsh. Why not sayin rn he is a MUFC player, finalizing details of his move to West Ham. Until then he will be available for us.
So, that’s Pavard etc gone and based on yesterday’s 1/10 shitshow, we are in a very unclear situation
So, that’s Pavard etc gone and based on yesterday’s 1/10 shitshow, we are in a very unclear situation
He’s not CB number 4 . If /When Varane gets injured Maguire comes in .
Lindelof will be selected ahead of Maguire.
More often than not, I think it will be Lindelof but if playing against a striker who is strong in the air, then it probably will be Maguire.
No he doesn't, it's clear Lindelof is preferred over Maguire.
That's just ETH doing the diplomatic/political thing, as he probably knew the deal was off at that point, too. He can't really win in that situation.
We converted Shaw to CB last season just to not pick Maguire. He’s 5th choice cb at the moment
Can't wait for Ten Hag to start showing some balls by ditching that fecking idiot down to the reserves. We can come back in a few months when Maguire misses the cut for the Euros because of that.
Maybe if he hadn't been jeered (disgracefully in my opinion) by our "fans", then maybe he might feel a bit more affection for the club?
If you get treated like shite by your own supposed supporters, then maybe you stop giving a feck about what they think of you. He's already getting booed for nothing more than not being able to play in a high line- what are we going to do if he refuses to move, boo him more?
Give over. Ten Hag won't be doing that. He literally put the guy on the bench yesterday. We also won't get another CB in, so he'll have no real choice but to put him on the bench, too.
Maguire is a meme. He's our new Phil Jones.
Kind of seen this coming after ETH's comments. As others said it's best we get in another CB now and completely faze this narcissistic fridge out for good.
It might set a precedent that we don't want to set. Might be good in the short term if we pay him off, but then every Bailly, Henderson, and VdB (at the least) will also start overplaying their hand.
Best to take a hard line on this I reckon.
He got inspired by Mbappe, earning loads by wasting a season in the reserves.
If Colwill is as good as people say, then he should lose his England spot irrespective of whether or not he is playing regularly for West Ham or sitting on our bench.
He already committed career suicide when he decided to be way too slow of both foot and thought to operate in a high line defence.
Equally it’s pretty standard for players on these ludicrous salaries to get paid off when they do drop down.
Far from Maguire’s biggest fan (and wish him a speedy recovery), but I don’t see too much wrong with what he’s done. Very few players actually play football because they love it that much. It’s a job at the end of the day and he wants to maximise all he’s getting out of it financially
He ought to realize that if he signs his next contract in 2 years time, there is zero chance that he gets 100k per week for 3 years. So there really aren't any lost wages, certainly not 7m pounds
It may make sense for him in the short run to stay and collect higher wages, but will be at an expense of earning any decent number once he becomes a free agent at the age of 32, that’s if someone is willing to pick him up at all.
A “guaranteed” 100K for 4 years at West Ham (plus some payoff from United) must be a better option than 190k for 2 years at United without any meaningful playing time plus, I don’t know, 50K per week for the remainder of his career playing for a team fighting relegation?
DDG is a potential case study of a free agent struggling to find a club due to high wage demand.
A “guaranteed” 100K for 4 years at West Ham (plus some payoff from United) must be a better option than 190k for 2 years at United without any meaningful playing time plus, I don’t know, 50K per week for the remainder of his career playing for a team fighting relegation?
DDG is a potential case study of a free agent struggling to find a club due to high wage demand.
Hes entitled to double the ££ hes being offered? He was being offered £7million! If i got that tomorrow id retire and be set for life!
At the end of the day hes under contract and can stay if he wants.. But he needs to realise he wont play, & will prob end up losing his England place for the Euros to a regular player. He seems to value his England role quite alot. If losing that and not playing any football is worth it for the ££, thats down to him.
What a cnut, sack him for the Greece incident.
Interesting, vicious cycle then isnt it.
the bold bit - Do you apply the same logic to the Glazers then? Are they also sticking it up to us because we haven't shown them love for over a decade?
There is no point lashing out at Maguire. He is entitled to receive whatever is mentioned in the contract. Clubs happily sign contracts and then try to shove players away when they’re not good enough.
The new West Ham contract, if he signs it, will be final one before he retires. He is being forced to play for West Ham where he has no chance of winning anything and has been asked to take a paycut on top of that. All that for the increased chance of playing in the Euros! Doesn't sound interesting. Pay him the 7m and get done with it.
The new West Ham contract, if he signs it, will be final one before he retires. He is being forced to play for West Ham where he has no chance of winning anything and has been asked to take a paycut on top of that. All that for the increased chance of playing in the Euros! Doesn't sound interesting. Pay him the 7m and get done with it.
Errrr they can only offer him to clubs, they can’t make them want him. If that was the case you could sell whoever you want, whenever you want. Doesn’t work like that unfortunately
I prefer bringing some rando from the youth teams instead of wasting my time any further with Maguire.
The only job at would give him at the club would be to clean the toilets at Carrington.
He's entitled to sit and stay on the wages he's on if he wants.
You're a muggle Harry.Is there some sort of competition going on here for who can write the dumbest post or something?
Hard nosed businessmen don't typically give a feck about anything but their bottom line. Footballers generally do care about what their fans think of them.
You`re a lizard Harry.
I'd be surprised if it's the last contract, in fact I would worry about United bench shortening his career.
This is how seasons get ruined. Get rid of him as soon as possible before the dressing room atmosphere tanks.