Just pay him and get rid.
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Yes?
If we pay 100M for Maguire to sign him to a 5 year contract, and a year later Real Madrid (stop laughing) express interest in him, and he pushes for a leave, we are well within our rights to tell him to
A. feck off and respect the contract
B. Ask Real to pay us 100M plus some, as we'll be needing the funds to replace Maguire
C. Pay a hefty fee out of pocket to walk away
What a greedy cnut.
We have been paying him huge wages for years, while 50% of the time he operated like a mid table player and costs us games.
We made him captain when large chunks of the team didnt respect or rate him.
Now instead of saying thank you and walking away for a great new start in London, he wants one last big pay cheque.
I didnt agree with all the abuse he got at stadiums, but if he does stay i hope he gets booed every second he touches the ball. See if the lump sum he wants is worth it then.
We have been paying him huge wages for years, while 50% of the time he operated like a mid table player and costs us games.
We made him captain when large chunks of the team didnt respect or rate him.
Now instead of saying thank you and walking away for a great new start in London, he wants one last big pay cheque.
I didnt agree with all the abuse he got at stadiums, but if he does stay i hope he gets booed every second he touches the ball. See if the lump sum he wants is worth it then.
He's entitled to get his money absolutely but I also think you can't really criticise if fans are angry at him and the boos start at Old Trafford.
He's not only sticking around, despite clearly being nowhere near good enough, but it means we can't bring in Parvard who would be a huge improvement and make us a better side.
He's not only sticking around, despite clearly being nowhere near good enough, but it means we can't bring in Parvard who would be a huge improvement and make us a better side.
If I would earn that amount of money I would not give a shit no. If the decision is to either sit on the bench for 90% of the games and earn more or play regular football and earn less the choice would be easy. But it seems he is a money grabbing cnut.
Totally agree, the club, Woodward, due to the Glazers rewarding failure, caused this mess. The money should come from their dividends.
Football agents do the negotiating, it's their job to get the best deal.
If I had been given a 5 year contract with £190k per year by some idiot, why would I walk away from it without getting the money I was promised?
I agree he is shite and doesn't deserve it though.
It's not really simply the cost, clubs pay players as part of leaving the club all the time, it just rarely gets reported on. And it's very rare players go to a club that will only pay them half of what they're currently on. That's on our football club giving him the big money in the first place, not him.
Of course you would. This idea that it's perfectly reasonable to walk away from half your expected earnings across the next two years to leave a club you don't even want to leave, to live somewhere you probably don't even want to live, is completely fecking insane.
players get sold all the time without getting the final year or two of their contractual obligation....why should 'arry be any different? why does he need to get paid out. This is just him and his agent being utter cnutsFootball agents do the negotiating, it's their job to get the best deal.
If I had been given a 5 year contract with £190k per year by some idiot, why would I walk away from it without getting the money I was promised?
I agree he is shite and doesn't deserve it though.
Guess he doesn't want to play football anymore.
Exactly, just do a city pay him under the table and get it over with.
But watch Murtough and Arnold try to make a point here.
To be quite fair, United fans are not used anymore at club players attracting that sort of interest or leaving without major financial loss.
Is it 7M or 15M that he wants? The first one is kinda ok. It is our fault that we gave him a big contract.
The second one means he gets almost all the money we owe him, which means he is ok to stay, if he doesn't get his money and he doesn't care if he gets selected for English NT or not.
The second one means he gets almost all the money we owe him, which means he is ok to stay, if he doesn't get his money and he doesn't care if he gets selected for English NT or not.
may or may not be true if we pay out his contract....however this is just a true reflection of what a shit person he is by sticking it to EtH b/c he dropped him and took his captaincy away
The costs to his career are overstated; he will find a place in a PL squad after his United days are over. Whether it's now or in 2 years. Plus, he's on the plane to the Euros next year.
He's not the one in a bind. We are.
between this and not being able to shift mctominay out means we are severely hampering our ability to bring in the extra reinforcements we need to play the way we want to play moving forward. Couldve brought in amrabat and whichever of the CBs we landed on for maguire replacement. Instead just a wasted year with whatever time they play. Really hope southgate grows some balls and doesnt select maguire. Would be ridiculous if he doesnt play any regular footy this year to go along with last year
I am not English so idc but imagine him fecking us now, getting no game time and continues to decrease and then Southgate STILL picks him and he fecks you over at the Euros too
15M is a stupid amount. He'd only make 20M if he stayed here for 2 years. I'd seriously prefer we kept him than let him go at that point.
He can play the carabao and opening rounds of the FA cup and sit on the bench all season if that's the case.
I also think he should get some pay off though, it's just the amount he's asking for which is a joke.
He can play the carabao and opening rounds of the FA cup and sit on the bench all season if that's the case.
I also think he should get some pay off though, it's just the amount he's asking for which is a joke.
Well yes of course I would. I even did it last year as i quit my job where I earned 50% more than now. But now I work much less hours. It's also stupid to compare footballers to normal people. He earns in a week (even at west ham) what the avarage person earns a year.
And he would trade Manchester for London, hardly a downgrade..
If he thinks 90k/week worth more than daily internet abuse then fine.
Keep the fecker. Make him play with reserve team and air it, with player cam even. Everyone loves tiktok meme
Keep the fecker. Make him play with reserve team and air it, with player cam even. Everyone loves tiktok meme
7 is from the Guardian, 15 from The sun (Custis)
You really think someone's going to give him a big contract at age 32 and after 3 seasons of largely warming the bench? And that's he's necessarily on the plane to the Euros next summer if he hardly plays for United?
I understand the business and legal decisions being made by Maguire re: his contract, but it doesn’t make him less of a c***.
Place at the Euros I don't know. Being signed by a PL team ? Yes absolutely though maybe for less than what West Ham offers currently.
Haha knew it when those ETH quotes came out, bizarre thing to say just as he was "leaving". Shouldn't have even been on the bench last night either.
The De Jong comparisons are wrong but it’s not far off.
A fixed term contract is different from normal employment. Maguire has signed a fixed contract for 5 years. Barring him violating that contract, he is owed that money.
That fixed term contract is also why United can demand a £30m fee. It’s to protect both club and player. He has every right to expect his fee.
So you didn't take a huge pay cut if you now work considerably less hours
And for a northerner, with a young family, settled not too far from their own families, moving to London probably is a huge downgrade in terms of his life comfortability. I'm a normal person and nobody could pay me enough to live near London.
Presumably he does want to leave, otherwise there's nothing to even consider. He can just stay, no one can force him to go. And he'd be moving to London, so....
If anything is fecking insane, it's this seeming total belief that no one walks away from money out of other and broader concerns, ever. People do that all the time, for many and good reasons. Including people who can much less well afford it than Harry Maguire.
Forget about CB problem we have bigger issues
I don't think there's a "maybe" there, with another two years on the biological clock and 3 years out of being a regular. And I said "big contract".
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Well I wouldn't move to London either because I'm not rich. If you have that kind of money you have a perfectly comfortable life everywhere.So you didn't take a huge pay cut if you now work considerably less hours
And for a northerner, with a young family, settled not too far from their own families, moving to London probably is a huge downgrade in terms of his life comfortability. I'm a normal person and nobody could pay me enough to live near London.
I didn't reduce my hours obviously I just have a job where I can finish my workload in 25 hours a (being paid regular 40hours) instead of 60 hours. But thats not the thread for that kind of discussion.
Absolutely spitting feathers
If he doesn't want to leave to go to West Ham then just say it. He is wasting West Ham and United's time...just say you are not interested in a move to West Ham. The End.
"And he'd be moving to London, so...." So what exactly?
Where have you seen anything suggesting he wants to leave, ever? All the noises that have ever come out are that he wants to stay, both from the press that seem to report his side and the press that report the clubs side. It's very clearly the club that want him to move on, so that they can sign another defender. That in itself is fine. But if he's essentially being pushed out of the door, to move to a club he doesn't ideally want to play for, in a part of the country he probably doesn't want to live, to earn half the money he would have been earning if he had stayed put, it is entirely reasonable that he expect to be compensated for doing so.
Meanwhile we are hamstrung with money
He wants to go and wants United to pay for it.
Sounds like Trump saying he will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it.
I would expect he would be asking for the difference in pay between the West Ham and United contracts over the duration he has left of his United contract.
He is apparently on 200k a week at United. If WHU are offering him 150k a week, the delta over the 3 years left on his contract would be about 7.5mil.
Posters reckoning they would walk away from millions themselves
Don't usually agree with booing but for not leaving I hope he gets some stick on Saturday