Nah, of course not, it was an attempt at a joke
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Send him to the reserves and let him rot there. If PSG can do that with Mbappe, Neymar, Verratti etc. we should be able to do that with the feckin fridge too.
No shit. I'm looking at it from the clubs perspective and why the decision was made not to proceed with the pay off.
If the entire idea is to move him on next year, then won't we be better off letting him leave this season with a severance package, thus eliminating his weekly wages from our books, getting an immediate replacement, and grooming the new incoming player? That saves money; that improves our future. Why wait till next year?
I highly doubt PSG will really do that and doesn't try their best to find a resolution.
This better not screw up a potential Pavard deal.
Mbappé is back on the squad, Neymar was transferred within 10 days of being told he was no longer part of the plan, and Verratti was allegedly told the same but that he'll train with the first team and be played as necessary if he can't find a buyer.
The "dropped to reserves" has been done but it's not that common.
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He doesn't care about playing week in and week out evidently.
Terrible transfer all-around though. I have no idea what we were thinking giving him this much money.
Terrible transfer all-around though. I have no idea what we were thinking giving him this much money.
That’s as good as finished if Maguire is staying.
You have better owners than we do. We probably can't afford to pay him off AND get a replacement. Personally, I would just go with Evans as 4th/5th choice and buy a new cb next summer.
He's like a turd the club just can't flush.
Got nothing against him as a person. He's probably an alright bloke to hang out with but his footballing abilities are not anywhere up to the standards for any top team and he needs to leave.
Got nothing against him as a person. He's probably an alright bloke to hang out with but his footballing abilities are not anywhere up to the standards for any top team and he needs to leave.
I am not familiar with the accounting side of both Arsenal and Man Utd. I only saw 50m or 43m (30m transfer fee + 13m wage saving) vs 7m. I am not familiar with the FFP calculation either. According to Redcafe Maguire will rot to reserve and never play so cost for replacement is irrelevant.
He's a liability. Him staying stops us from signing someone who can can actually contribute and add quality to our squad. It'll be almost impossible selling him next summer after another year of not playing, so that's him staying for another two years. We should've made it clear that he isn't gonna play, and if ETH did actually tell him that he's happy for him to stay and fight for his place then it's a massive mistake. He needs to be out of the squad.
I entirely agree but we're not privy to all the financial ins and outs, maybe when all factored it's too much of a bad deal to transfer him for that bid.
Next year his remaining amortization value should be 13m£ at most and only one year of wages to haggle over, even if he doesn't play a lot I could see a couple of teams possibly trying a punt at that price.
The thought of him being relied upon in anyway at all just disturbs me, most times you see him play he just seems capable of doing something utterly daft, this club just seems so amateurish at times!
He is really good. Chelsea should buy him for their midfield. Surely they need a few more to survive.
Your calculus doesn't make sense. You think he will earn more as a 34 year old than as a 32 year old? That is highly doubtful. Even then, he will have earned as much by 32 if he remains on his current contract as he would do on West Ham's offer by 34 years old, so under no circumstance should he walk away from his contract unless United make up the difference. That is objectively the correct financial decision.
I'm also not sure about the accounting side of things. To me, it seems that Josh Kronke has backed Arteta in getting rid of his unwanted players at all costs. This is not something the Glazers will do.
I don't think Maguire will (nor should) 'rot in the reserves' if he stays. It's a long season, 5th choice will get some minutes here and there.
It's not you, it's me Harry. Look, we had some good times. Let's not let this get awkward. We will always be friends.
He couldn't agree personal terms with West Ham. So the payoff doesn't even come into the picture. Unless we are talking about terminating his contract and paying him salary for next 2 years.
Just watched a highlight reel on YouTube of many of Slabhead's greatest blunders in a United shirt. Absolutely shocking this guy has been allowed to stay on as long as he has.
The day he stood and waited on the ball to come to him against Leicester and thus allowed them to pounce on it and score was the day I was done with Maguire.
Failing to unload him this summer will be the greatest failure we could have made in this window.
The day he stood and waited on the ball to come to him against Leicester and thus allowed them to pounce on it and score was the day I was done with Maguire.
Failing to unload him this summer will be the greatest failure we could have made in this window.
At 34 with regular playing time compared to 32 with no playing time for 2 years? Yes I think the former option would be better for the buying club. Besides if he’s good at WH he might get an extension to very similar terms to the 100k he’d be on.
If he warmed the bench for 2 years who will objectively take 32 years old Maguire on their roster?
The difference is that Maguire has to put up the work during those three - four years to keep the level he is at. If he has doubts - yes just banking it up and retire at 32 is the safer bet.
Will provide competition for Jonny Evans while also being useful as a threat to the likes of Varane and Onana if they drop below the required level.
"Play like that again and I'm getting the Harry out"
"Play like that again and I'm getting the Harry out"
I would say that would be the safer bet. Why give up something he has on his hand for the money he may earn in the future? It makes no sense unless he is a young player looking for game time to develop.
The deal is off for now. There is still 2 weeks left in the window and anything can happen.
Which is followed by a burst in laughter from all involved in the discussion
He's not going to have no playing time though, is he? He played 800 premier league minutes last year and featured in 16 games, starting 8. He featured in 31 games for us across all comps and started in 15 or 16. If he is available, then ETH will use him. If not, he can reassess next year and negotiate an exit.
It makes no sense for him to leave money on the table.
Exactly
Is Maguire costing us Pavard?
Come on Villa, get involved...
Nothing scarier than having Harry on the pitch with you. You know it's going to be a rough ride.
From Villans to heroes in an instant.
People just want to slag him off. But the guy has realistically 5 years left of his career. Beyond that he has no idea on what he can earn. He is being asked to give up £7m over the course of 2 of those 5 years. Makes no sense unless he really thinks his career will be over at 32.
Yes unfortuntely.
The turd that just won't flush. Oh well, two more years.
Have absolutely no problem with people booing him now. He's chosen his path.
Maguire is now talking about fighting his way into the team.
His delusion is damaging United.
His delusion is damaging United.
If it's true that Ten Hag is happy to have him as a squad player fighting for his place, then he's probably the one to be annoyed at. Hard to blame a player for staying at a bigger club that are in 4 comps and making more money.
Or just posturing as he’s negotiating a buyout package from United.
Hope he's included in the match day squad so the fans can tell him what we think of this greedy feck. Should be brought on in the final few minutes so he gets the message.
Twat of a man.
Honestly been a long time since I've hated a United player, probably Di Maria.
Twat of a man.
Honestly been a long time since I've hated a United player, probably Di Maria.
Why is he greedy?