He hasn't been found innocent (or guilty for that matter) because the case didn't go to trial due to key witnesses pulling out. It's simply untrue to say he was found innocent, the CPS just determined the loss of those witnesses meant a conviction was unlikely.
The charges sound scary but all were classified as misdemeanors. And the charges sounded like massive prosecutorial overreach combined with a rush to justice/prevention time to prepare a defense. Drunk footballers made an example of by local police and magistrates. Even if reconvicted on retrial it doesn't sound like a sacking offence to me.
Moral grey are
He has practically been raised here, went off the rails here more than once (let's not forget the England situation), and now we've fecked the whole situation around and possibly made it worse.
Because we know the kid, his local area and family well and now there's an opportunity to take responsibility and place the proper gates/checkpoints to ensure he's on the right path.
Maybe it’s actually Mason himself who wants to move on…?
I’d say that’s a certainty given that the club clearly specifies that those clips are ‘part of a much longer recording’ and claims they don’t paint the whole picture.
So, basically do exactly the same thing and hope for the best? In the environment where he has clearly gone astray (putting it mildly)?
Huh?
Who knows? Maybe there was a medical emergency and player was rushing a patient to hospital? Maybe the person killed had shot a red light? Depends.
Would have liked to see him get one
Not surprising though.
Don't think they have any intention of doing so,that is ridiculous pressure on a young player and someone else who is made of glass
That's all true, but more generally, all these references to what the police think or do are just a red herring - cause people's profound disapproval of Greenwood's concern a moral issue, not a legal one. As I wrote many pages ago in this thread (sorry for quoting myself):
So all the legal talk should just piss off - also because it's à propos of nothing. I mean, who in this thread has ever argued that the police got it wrong and should have prosecuted Greenwood? So who's the argument that the police didn't prosecute him even directed at?
Have I missed something...Is he not getting one?
I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse here.
My eyes rolled so hard from reading this that I’m currently in concussion protocol.
I feel like you don't understand the point.
Was disappointing he didn’t acknowledge what people had heard in statement,however still felt there was more to this than we ever knew anything about. My frustration is really with Arnold for having us believe there could be a way back,however also with Mason as it's such a waste of an opportunity to make his career here
I literally felt brain cells jump out my ear and run away reading that post.
There's clearly more to it.
I wanted to have the chance to rehabilitate himself at this club,there is annoyance on my part that outside influences affected the decision
I think Greenwood probably is disappointed with the club and the fans and thus the sense of finality. Ultimately we have pre-judged him based on the video/audio and its unlikely to change anyone's mind after it was allowed to be baked in for so long.
Yeap. Someone in the club must have leaked it out last week the position of the club -- which then shortcircuited the process or gave the club and Greenwood the chance to explain himself.
What questions are left unanswered that make this anything other than a good decision, albeit it far too late?
Indeed, and the club didn't have good options to take, since the case was dropped, had the club decided to let him go then and there, media and online fans will create a shitstorm, if they do a proper investigation that needs time, they will say the club is too slow to make a decision, it was damned if you do, damned if you don't, even though a lot of the facts of the matter are hidden and unknown to most people, including the club, the simple fact is that Mason still brought disrepute to the club and it is decided he will no longer play for the club ever again, and us as fans should move on from it.
I think the club was in an impossible and unprecedented position, and once the case was dropped, they had to do their own due diligence on the matter, probably they hoped they could bring him back and you can't blame the club for wanting to try that, but I disagree with the article's assertion that it is that simple, there was a logic behind the club taking time to look deeply into what happened.
That is a good summary of what likely happened. I think the club did it just about right.
No second chances like having the charges dropped, still getting paid $70k a week and going to be moved on to another club, also on high wages?
Arnold has to explain what he meant by that we don't see the whole picture and that it was not what it seemed. The video/audio was a snippet of a larger piece?
Don't worry about it the important thing is that we get to claim higher moral ground.
I fully agree with you. Their refusal to allow comments started to leave a really bad taste yesterday. I wanted and still want a chance to give them a piece of my mind.
Everyone thinks so many decisions made by the club are logical and obvious ... only when they see things in hindsight or without all the information available.
