Sky Sports are saying Fulham value him at £80m. He's a good player, but that's ridiculous.
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Compromise will be found - £60-65m+ add-ons.
Don't want to be the stats guy but how are mctominay passing stats slightly better than his.
He's a pure destroyer, he's there to make them more compact in the CL and fits a manager like Tuchel.
Is he really much better than Laimer?
I will admit I have maybe only watched Laimer about 5 times but everytime I thought he was excellent.
Yeah, those stats are somewhat alarming, but every Fulham midfielder apart from Tom Cairney seems to average 30-40 passes per game.
Quality player. Frustrating we didnt sign him the Summer he went to Fulham given he didn't cost too much.
He is a force of nature in the DM position, can switch the play too pretty well.
Exactly what Bayern need imo and about 70M seems fair value, considering their need in that position and how important he is to Fulham. They seemed an entirely different team against Arsenal with him back compared to just with Lukic and Cairney in there.
Exactly what Bayern need imo and about 70M seems fair value, considering their need in that position and how important he is to Fulham. They seemed an entirely different team against Arsenal with him back compared to just with Lukic and Cairney in there.
As others have said: Sané is very frustrating but his good actions outweigh the terrible decisions. Gnabry always has stretches that are very good, or very underwhelming. But both can play both wings, as well as Coman and all three will rotate. Coman is the best winger and also Musiala can provide the Ribery-lite on the left wing to let Müller play in the middle next to/behind Kane.
Tuchel won the champions league with kante, Jorginho and Kovacic as part of his squad all of them being good at either passing the ball or carrying it very well. Where did he excel with a dm wh is just a pure destroyer. But as you said against us and other big teams he will be a huge difference, what about the other teams that will park the bus in the ucl or the bundesliga?
Its not just passes attempted it's the variety and their use to the team. A midfielder who is below average on the ball can be very frustrating as we have had the pleasure to notice it with mctominay. Even with great players around him at Bayern he will need to step up big time with his on the ball ability.
Sané is a quite frustrating player. On his day his speed, dribbling and left foot can cause any defense problems, but a very good game is often followed by 5 bad ones.
I have the feeling that maybe things clicked with him this year and that Tuchel might be the right coach for him.
Gnabry is a bit the same, Coman is probably the most reliable of the 3, very fast, great in 1vs.1 but still lacking in goals and assists.
As you said, they are of course not even close to Ribéry and Robben.
But I don't think thats a fair comparison. We were very lucky to get them (Ribéry just broke through in the year when we decided to change our transfer strategy and spend bigger on foreign stars and Robben was let go by Real because their new president bought some shiny new toys) and I feel that today only Mbappe and Vini Jr. are on prime Robbery level.
Could we not have swapped Mctominay for Palhinha + the Amrabat cash?
May have been a better deal. I think Palhinha is a better player than Amrabat.
May have been a better deal. I think Palhinha is a better player than Amrabat.
I think it's said every year but how many of those so called "swap deals" happen any given season ? I feel it's between 0-1. PSG tried it with RKM and Ekitike, and they didn't bite despite liking the player.
I think the reality is that they're always bad deals on paper with the player thrown in as a consolation prize being just that. A player you never know what you're getting really while cash doesn't lie (and is liquid).
I don't think 30m£~ + McTominay is meeting the valuation Fulham expect.
You are right, they don't usually happen.
This one would have made some sense though, as it is said that Fulham are interested in McTominay.
Not really. Fulham don't have to sell. Also the higher the valuation the better the negotiated value.
Bayern has Kimmich who is definitely a nailed starter and just bought Laimer, now they want to sign Palhinha. Surely if they're about to pay 60M+ they're not thinking of him as a squad player.
I know they just sold Gravenberch but what's the deal with Goretzka? he seems a much more superior player than Laimer and Palhinha.
I know they just sold Gravenberch but what's the deal with Goretzka? he seems a much more superior player than Laimer and Palhinha.
I think they really want Kimmich to play slightly further forward.
Laimer is one I am curious about as every time I have seen him (which admittedly is only a handful) he has been very good.
For a team that's poor on the ball it's weird to see the obsession with a player who is poor on it.
Done deal according to kicker.
Not really Bayern material in my books, but then again... Tuchel might transform him into a beast
Not really Bayern material in my books, but then again... Tuchel might transform him into a beast
Goretzka is a bad fit for Tuchel and likely to be phased out.
Further they have Musiala and Muller. Also Kimmich is top class as CDM I think it would be a mistake to move him from his position.
Maybe Goretzka fell off with Tuchel? There were rumours they were looking to sell him for over 30-40M which seems a bargain. There's something strange with that.
Palhinha poor in the ball?
Transfer window is closed in Germany now. The deal is off according to Sky Germany.
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We all criticize the players for forcing the exit, but what Fulham did to Palhinha is wrong. They basically allow him to go to Germany, do the medical exams, told him the deal was done. He even made the photoshoot with the Bayern shirt 
Let's see how will this guy be mentally after this rollercoaster of emotions.
Let's see how will this guy be mentally after this rollercoaster of emotions.
Another one for the “well-run club” brigade.
Yep kicker have pulled down their article
The Saudi Arabia window apparently closes in a month. He could feck them.We all criticize the players for forcing the exit, but what Fulham did to Palhinha is wrong. They basically allow him to go to Germany, do the medical exams, told him the deal was done. He even made the photoshoot with the Bayern shirt
Let's see how will this guy be mentally after this rollercoaster of emotions.
Good. We have to face them twice and he dominated our midfield at Craven Cottage.
Did their fax machine break down?We all criticize the players for forcing the exit, but what Fulham did to Palhinha is wrong. They basically allow him to go to Germany, do the medical exams, told him the deal was done. He even made the photoshoot with the Bayern shirt
Let's see how will this guy be mentally after this rollercoaster of emotions.
Not sure if it is all on Fulham. He travelled in preparation for a transfer if a deal could be struck, it was always contingent on both sides reaching a compromise over the fee and if they could not do that I would say it is as much on Bayern as it is on Fulham.We all criticize the players for forcing the exit, but what Fulham did to Palhinha is wrong. They basically allow him to go to Germany, do the medical exams, told him the deal was done. He even made the photoshoot with the Bayern shirt
Let's see how will this guy be mentally after this rollercoaster of emotions.
We let Pavard and Gravenberch leave but failed to replace either player.
Looks pretty unprofessional to me.
Looks pretty unprofessional to me.
Bring back Oliver Kahn.
See you in the CL. Hopefully during a congested fixture period
The fee has been agreed hit Fulham couldn't secure a replacement before the German transfer window closed.
Looks so very unprofessional
can we not offer them a straightswap for McTom.
How is that possible, millions of Caf posters were willing to drive McTominay to London as soon as they gave the word.
He didn't need a pure destroyer but he played 3-4-3 with someone like Mount wide. He also had a centre-back playing as a DM with two workhorses beside him at PSG when they reached the CL final. His approach can be quite conservative.
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