city's current position is based on a series of investments, otherwise known in conspiratorial circles as The Initial Investment, made between their inception in 2008 until 2018.
None of your sponsorship or any of the money spent is legit.
I'd probably be saying what you are if I were a City fan too so can't criticise too much but every football fan knows City have inflated/faked sponsorships, paid dual salaries (probably more so during your formative years 2008-2013), claimed higher commercial activity, etc.
Man City claim to have the biggest revenue in football. Bigger than United and Madrid!
Do you need an explanation? You know the answer.
I was asking a Man City fan as I'm genuinely intrigued to what they think has happened.
I think City fans genuinely believe they have that level of commercial activity yet cannot sell out a FA Cup semi final ticket allocation in a treble winning season. Jokers.
Making up fake sponsors to cook the books is fraud.
well structured sponsorship deals that paid out early on the premise that city won the treble at a later date. think of it like pay day loans.
feck me
So fraud then?
Exactly, none of us are innocent. We've all gone into a zoo and poured laxatives into the feeding troughs. Hipposhits.
rimaldo doesn't support City, by the way. rimaldo doesn't even support his seventeen children.
I know, I think their understanding of the reality is a bit skewed to be honest.
The equivalent of pay day loans is possibly the stupidest explanation I've heard so far!
I disagree. The case is brought by the PL and decided by a PL appointed committee. Bringing the charges was greater reputational risk to the PL than ignoring them. I don't see this getting swept away quietly as I think the PL could have done that already if that was their intention. I would expect expulsion, if not permanently then very lengthy.
You are set for huge disappointment.
I don't see it. The PL have openly accused City of money laundering, fraud, corruption and financial doping. I don't see this going back to some settlement favourable to City.
I love that your "Supports: man city" tag gives you even more ammunition to wind people up who don't know who you are.
You're in for a shock then. The fact is this goes to state-level and in the interest of good relations with the UAE this government (which is bought and paid for as they've proven over years) will interfere. The punishment will not harm them in the long term. Maybe in the short term is the best we'll get.
You may be right, but how can the rest of us not have our suspicions that nothing more than a slap of the wrist is the worst City will suffer?
Exactly this. People always say it’s a great business model but it’s awful - pure impatience and greed stopping them simply building a legitimate football setup.
And that’s fair enough but I think the PL will see it as a way of lining their own pockets and they’ll take the hit on the chin.
Ok. Lets assume thats all thats happened. So City should get the £100 fine and 3 points right? You agree? So £100 x 115 is an £11,500 fine. And 3 points x 115 is 345 points. It only takes 12 points to be banned. The minimum ban for getting 12 points is 6 months. So, using your own analogy, City should be banned from football for at least 4 and a half years.
I love that your "Supports: man city" tag gives you even more ammunition to wind people up who don't know who you are.
light fraud at best. the kind that if we were talking about a tory mp, they’d be getting a peerage.
kids need to see a meerkat explode in to a cloud of brown mist to understand the cruelty of nature.
firstly, how dare you. secondly, i’ve been supporting them royal blues since the days of shaun goatee, geordie kinkylady, nicholas bambi and stevens island. not to mention knowing about our rich history of legends like michael summerball and denise laws.
This is the stuff in the thread that is bordering on conspiracy theory levels.
For extra WUMmery I would assume.
shortcut to winning stuff whilst being state owned. seemed more foolproof than waiting for united to bollocks it up under qatar. now it looks like jazzy has lost out to jimmy, so i’m considering my options again.
You can track City's gradual ascent in the Deloitte Football Money League here. The reflex answer would be steep COVID setbacks for La Liga and the Spanish giants combined sustained dominance in what has become the most commercially successful league in the world and improved performances in Europe, garnering further commercial interest. Of course, if the provenance of the whole enterprise is suspect, none of what happens after the fact matters as far as present-day legitimacy is concerned, but that is another can of worms. In practice, though, what tends to happen is that such questions of legitimacy fall by the wayside in the wash of history in favor of brute force of results and trophies. As they say, behind every great fortune there is a crime, and humanity has made easy practice of legitimizing or ignoring such things. This is why a conviction or some sort of formal sanction would be important for the historical record; otherwise any sort of financial chicanery or malfeasance will be soon forgotten as the brand grows and generations turn over (no pun intended). For context, pre-takeover City were consistently charting in the low teens on the Deloitte Football Money League, roughly around where West Ham or Everton are charting these days.
Well, yes, City's ascent has been anything but organic (organic ascents today are impossible, but ignore that for a second).
For extra WUMmery I would assume.
Too obvious?
As I've said before, the City fans I know personally fall into the following categories:
It's not that Deloitte or anyone has been fooled into thinking City earn way more than they do. It's been widely reported that City have used fake crypto currency type sponsors to inflate their commercial revenue. The reason they have had to inflate it so much is to offset years of massive spending.
