Gay footballers | Czech Republic international Jakub Jankto comes out as gay

[Rauður Djöfull]

Courageous of him and I do hope he feels better and more free in his life because of it

It's sad that this is news worthy and people care so much about it and the hate is so strong it forces other human beings to hide who they are. Should just be normal and nobody should care. Hope this opens up for others to come out and normalize it more in the world of mens football. Can't for the life of me understand how people can be so bothered and cruel about other peoples sexuality but so guess it's always easier for some to point fingers then looking inwards

 

[krazyrobus]

The fact that you even have to ask why it is clueless or blame it on PC culture, just shows that you're clueless and ignorant.

Asking questions because you don't know, who woulda thunk it.

 

[cafecillos]

Asking questions because you don't know, who woulda thunk it.

Ah, the "just asking questions" shtick. We haven't seen that one before.

 

[SilentWitness]

Jake Daniels has called out Gerrard and Henderson in an interview for going to Saudi. Good on him and essentially confirmed that Henderson is all talk.

 

[WeePat]

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[Garnacho's Shoelaces]

The worst part is Henderson shouldn't have been anywhere near the England team while being carried by a very talented and well coached Liverpool team. He certainly shouldn't be representing the team as a confirmed fraud whose playing in a pub league while JWP is in the shadows.

 

[WeePat]

The worst part is Henderson shouldn't have been anywhere near the England team while being carried by a very talented and well coached Liverpool team. He certainly shouldn't be representing the team as a confirmed fraud and homophobe whose playing in a pub league while JWP is in the shadows.

I understand the criticism towards Henderson but maybe labelling him a homophobe is a bit much?

 

[Plant0x84]

The worst part is Henderson shouldn't have been anywhere near the England team while being carried by a very talented and well coached Liverpool team. He certainly shouldn't be representing the team as a confirmed fraud and homophobe whose playing in a pub league while JWP is in the shadows.

 

[RaddyRed]

Henderson isn't a homophobe. He is like all Premier League players, they will attach their name to a cause as it looks good for their image and will play anywhere as long as the money is good (usually where their agent instructs them).

 

[dazjoe]

Homophobe because he's taken a job in Saudi Arabia? That's a bigger reach than Nikolai Valuev

 

[Rista]

Henderson isn't a homophobe. He is like all Premier League players, they will attach their name to a cause as it looks good for their image and will play anywhere as long as the money is good (usually where their agent instructs them).

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

 

[SilentWitness]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

Henderson was probably on 100k-200k per week at Liverpool. He and his family were already set up for life.

 

[horsechoker]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

Mbappe turned it down

 

[BootsyCollins]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

I am sure many people would, as many people already have.

That dont make Henderson a homophobe at all, but he sure as hell is a hypocrite.

 

[flappyjay]

I understand Henderson being a money grabbing cnut who sold out his believes for money. But homophobe is a reach.

 

[RaddyRed]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

He already is set up for life. I personally dont take any offence at him moving there, it just highlights him as a hypocrite.

The same as the pundits who made a big deal about issues during the Qatar World Cup, but then went there for a month and also holiday elsewhere in the Middle East.

People like to pubically show they care when the sad thing is the majority of it all for show.

 

[Trequarista10]

Henderson was probably on 100k-200k per week at Liverpool. He and his family were already set up for life.

Maybe he'll give the extra 10s of millions to various charities.

He probably won't but I think it should be a consideration before jumping to conclusions. Or if people want to be productive, rather than abusing him on socials maybe they should just reply to all his social posts recommending he gives the extra money to charity.

 

[tenpoless]

Gerrard and Henderson aren't homophobe. They're just smartphobe and hypocrites.

 

[SilentWitness]

Maybe he'll give the extra 10s of millions to various charities.

He probably won't but I think it should be a consideration before jumping to conclusions. Or if people want to be productive, rather than abusing him on socials maybe they should just reply to all his social posts recommending he gives the extra money to charity.

He may well do, but that doesn't absolve the guilt of being a hypocrite and will not change the minds of many in the community who still believe they have been betrayed. An active voice for the community can mean much more than charity donations.

 

[Jippy]

He already is set up for life. I personally dont take any offence at him moving there, it just highlights him as a hypocrite.

We don't know that and nearly half of ex-prem players go bankrupt within five years of retiring, so the lure of that last massive payday must be strong. I think a lot of people criticising him would've done the same thing- a lot of people's values have a price, particularly when its tens of millions.

People like to pubically show they care when the sad thing is the majority of it all for show.

Maybe Henderson could dye a rainbow into his pubes.

 

[rimaldo]

Gerrard and Henderson aren't homophobe. They're just smartphobe and hypocrites.

they’re homocrits.

 

[Redstain]

Henderson was probably on 100k-200k per week at Liverpool. He and his family were already set up for life.

After hearing Rio saying he knows of household name footballers who have essentially gone to financial struggle after a few years in a recent interview this statement wouldn't seem to be the case with many.

Footballers like most in life don't have astute financial literacy so I don't think it's a given in any instance that having high income means it's managed well.

 

[SilentWitness]

We don't know that and nearly half of ex-prem players go bankrupt within five years of retiring, so the lure of that last massive payday must be strong. I think a lot of people criticising him would've done the same thing- a lot of people's values have a price, particularly when its tens of millions.

After hearing Rio saying he knows of household name footballers who have essentially gone to financial struggle after a few years in a recent interview this statement wouldn't seem to be the case with many.

Footballers like most in life don't have astute financial literacy so I don't think it's a given in any instance that having high income means it's managed well.

By the train of these thoughts they could still go bankrupt after moving to Saudi and taking their pay day. The money that he was on was enough for he and his family to be set up for life, I think that's what people are saying and it's also very true.

On the other hand, I don't mind people chasing that extra bit of money to help further that but when you've spoken very openly about a cause and move to a place with very strong opposition views to that cause, you have little excuse and those external variables don't count for much when you're already very well off as an individual. It would be very different if he was a player on 1-5k per week.

 

[Andy_Cole]

Not sure Gerrard ever was massively pro rainbow? I don’t know. I do find it funny how people demand to boycott Saudi and Qatar whereas as other boycotts are frowned upon as being racist.

 

[HTG]

If Henderson needs Saudi money to be set for life, he’s a gigantic moron and deserves to die poor. The man made millions every year for more than a decade. I really don’t get how anyone could argue with a straight face that this might not be enough and justifies taking this dirty money.
He’s a hypocrite. It’s that simple. He claimed to support a cause, sold this cause out and that’s it. And nothing of this happened in order to secure or provide for his family. It’s just greed.

 

[Jippy]

By the train of these thoughts he could still go bankrupt after moving to Saudi and taking their pay day. The money that he was on was enough for he and his family to be set up for life, I think that's what people are saying and it's also very true.

On the other hand, I don't mind people chasing that extra bit of money to help further that but when you've spoken very openly about a cause and move to a place with very strong opposition views to that cause, you have little excuse and those external variables don't count for much when you're already very well off as an individual. It would be very different if he was a player on 1-5k per week.

He'll certainly go morally bankrupt ba dum tish.

Clearly he's going to be seen as a hypocrite, but I guess for however many million he doesn't care. Part of me does think people appear to have been too vested in him being a social justice champion when he was one of the idiots in a Suarez tshirt.

 

[Garnacho's Shoelaces]

After hearing Rio saying he knows of household name footballers who have essentially gone to financial struggle after a few years in a recent interview this statement wouldn't seem to be the case with many.

Footballers like most in life don't have astute financial literacy so I don't think it's a given in any instance that having high income means it's managed well.

40% of footballers will be bankrupt.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

Again, many people from the LGBTQI+ community have been vocal about how it is, indeed, a slap in the face. When allies turn out to be hypocrites, it can be an issue for people from those communities - I don't understand why it's difficult to understand.

Also, the context is important: the footballing world is one where talking about homosexuality/queerness is almost taboo, so having a high profile player for a big club and national team speak out about it and associate himself to the cause can be an important moment for the community. You probably don't understand this, but it can be massively important for members of this community who also follow football. And when that falls on its face in the most spectacular way, then yes it can be difficult to digest.

The post calling him a homophobe was obviously ignorant and I don't think anyone truly believes that (beyond that poster maybe), but he has shown himself to be a massive hypocrite and I don't think it's an issue to point it out.

 

[tenpoless]

Or like pretty much every person ever. Nobody in their right mind would reject that kind of opportunity. But apparently some people think it's their own business and someone moving for a better deal which will set them and their family for life is a "slap in the face".

I mean if KFC owners are telling people its not fair for animals when we kill them then you can see why people are annoyed and not taking them seriously. Players like Ruben Neves who said yeah he wanted the money without trying to be a hero for a certain community that are hated in SA is how its should be done. He did that without being a hypocrite.

"Dont say stuffs and not following up on it, people will be waiting" - Wayne Rooney

 

[Lord SInister]

People associated with Liverpool FC have always been the fairy cnyts.

Meaning they will show themselves as upright and morally superior, but the moment they are involved in any scandal they will try to defend themselves.

 

[Taribo's Gap]

People associated with Liverpool FC have always been the fairy cnyts.

Meaning they will show themselves as upright and morally superior, but the moment they are involved in any scandal they will try to defend themselves.

 

[rimaldo]

he called himself @Lord SInister, what more do you expect?

 

[Taribo's Gap]

he called himself @Lord SInister, what more do you expect?

You do have a point. I hereby retract.

 

[golden_blunder]

If Henderson needs Saudi money to be set for life, he’s a gigantic moron and deserves to die poor. The man made millions every year for more than a decade. I really don’t get how anyone could argue with a straight face that this might not be enough and justifies taking this dirty money.
He’s a hypocrite. It’s that simple. He claimed to support a cause, sold this cause out and that’s it. And nothing of this happened in order to secure or provide for his family. It’s just greed.

Agreed he’s a hypocrite.
However at his age I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same. A footballers career is short

 

[golden_blunder]

People associated with Liverpool FC have always been the fairy cnyts.

Meaning they will show themselves as upright and morally superior, but the moment they are involved in any scandal they will try to defend themselves.

Have you been reading United forums recently? It’s not a trait reserved by scousers

 

[Rista]

He already is set up for life. I personally dont take any offence at him moving there, it just highlights him as a hypocrite.

The same as the pundits who made a big deal about issues during the Qatar World Cup, but then went there for a month and also holiday elsewhere in the Middle East.

People like to pubically show they care when the sad thing is the majority of it all for show.

So apparently the issue is that he's a hypocrite. I don't disagree but most people are hypocrites and vast majority of people are not activists. Just because he supported a good cause it doesn't mean it should affect one of the biggest decisions in his life. I, like 99.99% of the people would have done the same. Comparing him to Mbappe is just silly.

 

[Withnail]

So apparently the issue is that he's a hypocrite. I don't disagree but most people are hypocrites and vast majority of people are not activists. Just because he supported a good cause it doesn't mean it should affect one of the biggest decisions in his life. I, like 99.99% of the people would have done the same. Comparing him to Mbappe is just silly.

You're just saying that you back up your point. You've no idea what percentage of people would do it. Presumably, I wouldn't go near the place for any reason. That or Qatar and Dubai etc

 

[adexkola]

So apparently the issue is that he's a hypocrite. I don't disagree but most people are hypocrites and vast majority of people are not activists. Just because he supported a good cause it doesn't mean it should affect one of the biggest decisions in his life. I, like 99.99% of the people would have done the same. Comparing him to Mbappe is just silly.

No, the issue is that he's not a perfect ally. If you're going to speak up for LGBTQ causes and further LGBTQ causes and offer words of encouragement to players who have publicly declared their sexuality, all that work goes down the drain if you go play in Saudi Arabia. It would be better if you never was an ally at all. The game is much better off with more players like Mane and Neves (who don't say anything), than players like Henderson (who say/do stuff and also play in Saudi Arabia).

So the logic goes.

 

[HTG]

Agreed he’s a hypocrite.
However at his age I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same. A footballers career is short

Many would do the same. As long as you wouldn’t claim to be an ally for queer people, I wouldn’t be as critical.

 

[Bole Top]

you can be supportive of certain cause until the point where it basically becomes a sacrifice for you. it doesn't mean you changed your views, it simply means the cause isn't worth losing the money for.