It’s the train of thought for some people I’m struggling to understand. It’s as you say the assumption of so many things and then the anger that comes over something we can’t be certain about. It’s like any work place, who really knows the dynamics?
I’d go even further back and say the problems are so deep rooted a quick fix or even a one with turbulence was never going to happen. We’ve definitely had more than I’d imagined and most of it out of his control. I keep hearing that top managers just deal with it, yet nobody has provided a similar situation by which we can refer.
Of course not all the mangers decisions will pay off or I’d even say I’d agree with, but at least let’s provide perspective when viewing them. It’s just allows for more reasoned discussion for me.
Agree
Klopp and Pep have been discussing player injuries and issues with amount of games played in a season. Whatever 2 quality squad pep says is nonsense but Klopp is a closer comparison to us.
Last season his pool team struggled badly and people were happy to let fatigue be an excuse because “he has credit in the bank”. Ok, that’s fair in terms of him getting a pass but it doesn’t address the fact that ETHs United played a similar amount of games in one season, when there was a World Cup uniquely squeezed in between the season. It’s never happened before and yet some people think it’s just making excuses, which is kind of silly really.
All the injuries we are having this season and issues with fitness, is there any chance that it’s misting down to the unprecedented gruelling schedule that we had and is even affecting teams that didn’t have as many games as us last season?
Klopp has salah , pep has Haaland. ETH has had a superstar who undermined him, an injury prone Frenchman , a Burnley player loaned out to a Turkish team and an unproven 20 year old who had never even played in the EPL. I mean Hoijland (who I like) is the striker you buy when you already have a proven striker at the club. The squad mismanaging by the club for 11 years has been next level incompetence. It happens for every United manager, it’s not their fault, it’s the clubs responsibility to give a manager a balanced squad and it never happens.
Then you look at the injuries, basically our entire starting defence. The season we did what most fans wanted and brought in a replacement keeper, who is trying to settle into a squad decimated with injuries and no settled defence.
Then we have the owner issues, the entire future of the club is unclear. How does that affect seriel winners like Varane or Casemerio at the twilight of their careers ? Regardless of manager they have to be unsettled with how unlcear Uniteds future is, I’d say they aren’t alone.
And then of course theirs the accusations against players and Sanchos ego disrupting things.
I feel like there’s prob things I’m forgetting but any one or two of these things can unsettle teams, but ETH is navigating more issues than any top manager you can quote.
People keep minimising the clubs issues as “excuses” without actually any sort of meaningful explanation as to why they should be ignored. The best clubs in the world; the ones we are supposedly aspiring to be, have little to none of the issues our manager is having to navigate and yet people think “he manages the team, that’s his problem” as if it’s that simple.
It really isn’t and most people don’t wnt ETH sacked, not because everything he doee is perfect or unquestionable. Its because he is at a handicap to every other top class manager at functioning clubs and most of us would prefer even a few horrendous seasons of one man fixing what’s broken then 18-24 cycles of sh*t.
People say “but other clubs…. Right, what other clubs have as many issues at United? What other world class club has spent as much as United the last 11 years and failed miserably even to consistently make top 4? Why can city win a league with pelligrini or Mancini? Why can Barca or Madrid win in Europe or spain with unknown managers ? Even Bayern won a CL with a manager who did what Pep couldn’t.
A club as wealthy and spending as much as United should finish in top 4 regardless of manager. Spending wins for every other top club except United , why is that?
It’s ironic that some people call those of us who don’t want ETH sacked for these very reasons “**** of manager” supporters. By their very belief “we need a world class manager to get more from this squad”, they believe that we just need to find the right manager. They are literally pinning all their hope on one man fixing things.
I don’t know if ETH can turn things around but I’d like to see him try, while working with our club that may be finally about to address some of the major issues that has had the club languishing for a decade.
