The article on the BBC website yesterday was "Bournemouth beat injury ravaged Newcastle"Aye, we’ve had our fair share of injury issues all season, yet not an excuse or peep from the club. We’re above this lot but we’re the club in crisis and all you can hear now is the amount of injuries they have
Aye, I don’t like subscribing to such conspiracy nonsense but the narrative around our seasons been completely different.The article on the BBC website yesterday was "Bournemouth beat injury ravaged Newcastle"
It's kind of mad how quickly it happened, but I guess the Geordies always had it in them. So unbelievably entitled already.
I didn't mind them so much (Shearer aside) prior to becoming a corrupt sportswashing enterprise.
I'm not old enough to remember pre-Keegan Newcastle but they've definitely been odious since at least then.
I'm old enough to remember Keegan-player era Newcastle (when St James' wasn't 'packed to the rafters with the most loyal fans, blah blah blah')
What, when they were coming to Old Trafford and acting like they were something special?
yeah that’s my point, we’ve been crippled in literally every position but it gets no mention in the media just that we’re in free fall and everyone’s unhappy at the club etc.Aye, we’ve had our fair share of injury issues all season, yet not an excuse or peep from the club. We’re above this lot but we’re the club in crisis and all you can hear now is the amount of injuries they have
Yeah I try hard not to pay it any attention but even a couple of the Newcastle fans I know are trotting out the injury excuse
I didn't like them and i'd get annoyed when we played them sometimes, but i find the club completely horrible now.
We have improved a lot. Under Bruce we were rock bottom in November 2021 having not won a single game, or even looked like winning a game. We are now playing CL football, and I assure you the majority of the fan base don't care at the moment if we're losing to teams like Dortmund. The weekend was frustrating of course, but it happens.
Used to it really. People say the forum is becoming RAWK-ish or Bluemoon-ish when it's pointed out, but the facts are out there. The media narrative is completely different for Utd than for any other club, and it's not quite "conspiracy theory" levels of discourse to point it out.
Depends how you look at it. You guys have had more injuries, but more spread out rather than hitting all at the same time along with some suspensions, you also have a squad that cost over a billion quid and should be better positioned to handle it. I haven't seen you resorting to 17 year olds in the heart of midfield, or bringing a player like Matt Ritchie off the bench who was finished at the top level years ago.
Not sure how correct you are with the "more spread out" bit. There's been times this season when United's three left backs have all been injured, including the emergency loan signing to cover the injuries. If you want to talk about players who were "finished at the top level years ago" Jonny Evans has started 5 games for United this season, he is of course now injured too.
I think it’s more to do with the narrative rather than who it’s for, for you it’s “injury ravaged” for us it’s “Man Utd are garbage” (which is also partly true).
At one point our whole back four, plus two back up left backs were injured all at once, not to mention at some point:
we finished last season with Weghorst
Well when you put it like that...
Your money has also come from literally the death and oppression of others so ya know - probably gonna get a little less sympathy.
That's fair enough. I think there's always a weird reluctance from opposition fans to accept other teams actually have these issues tbh. It's always "oh here come the excuses", but as I said earlier, there's a fine line between an excuse and an actual reason.
I'm not going to argue with the source of the money, I'm no fan of the Saudis. Don't think anyone's looking for sympathy though, it's just the reality of the situation
All true but we’ve been put to the sword by lesser teams even with our injuries or before our injuries hit to this extent. I think the reason this manager like many others will fail here is not down to any of that but poor buys. He only needed Antony or Mount to have a great season for me and that’s not happening. I’ll go further, if those 2 don’t improve from current form, he won’t be a success here in my opinion. He shouldn’t be allowed to replace those positions again any time soon.
There's a compliment in this I think. Everyone loving to see the giant fall, but plucky little Newcastle getting the sympathy.
I try to get numb to it, but it is hard. We will get back somehow , someway.... Can't have the good with out the bad and all that.
It’s come from oil mate.
I've never been a fan of this rationale. It reminds me of when Mourinho wasn't backed with another CB because he already signed Bailly and Lindelof. Pep made a mistake with Bravo and was given the funds to correct his mistake by signing Ederson. Klopp made a mistake by signing Karius and was given the funds to replace him with Alisson. Yes, Antony and Mount cost a lot more money than those two (and I still have faith in the Mount signing being a success) but Ten Hag wasn't responsible for negotiating the inflated transfer fee for them. Is it fair to penalise him for 1 or 2 transfers not working out?
Shocking.
I mean, there were numerous games this season where our entire defence and deeper midfield positions were out and we were playing players way down the pecking order. Hell, we were playing our 5th or even 6th choice leftback for much of the season (players who were out of position), were down to about our 5th choice right winger for a while (somebody who was out of position), started the season without a single striker available (that one was somewhat self-inflicted though) and had a period where most of our central midfielders were out.
Pretty disingenuous to only reply to half of my sentence mate. As I said, I'm no fan of the Saudis.
I mean... "not being a fan" of your owners is the lowest baseline I would expect for anyone with a minimum of common sense.
Didn't Manchester United have a "strategic partnership" with the Saudis for years prior to our takeover, or does that not count because they didn't explicitly own you?
