[kouroux]

Someday I will wake up from this nightmare and "players" like Bruno, Antony and Rashford won't be playing for the club anymore.

McT will still be there

 

[Stacks]

Kicking a cat is fine then? Zouma should have been sacked.

he barely stroked it. Was very little force

 

[crossy1686]

Villa are going to thrash us on Tuesday.

Might just be the wake up call some need

 

[chicha14]

It’s the Dutch way. Keep the ball so the opposition can’t score but do nothing with it

Thing is, they always score though....

 

[DJ_21]

This defeat isn't on Mainoo. He's a 17 yr kid ffs.

Who’s good enough to start. Forgot you can only ever praise young players.

 

[elmo]

I'm happy for Moyes at least. He gets to stick it to us and have his moment.

What the feck for? He kickstarted our decline by getting rid of our coaching staff and filled it with the bunch of losers he brought in.

He brought in the fraud that is John Murtough that’s still stinking up the club to this day. feck Moyes and everyone he brought in.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

There are lots of things wrong but the attitude of the players, the lack of total commitment for every run, every chase back, etc, the heads down sulkiness.. has to change. West Ham aren’t a great side but look how they’re chasing back when 2-0 up in last minute.

The lethargy has to change and any players who won’t change need selling. Get back to basics… I can cope with players who try and lose, but not piss about and sulk and lose.

transfers, contracts have helped create an awful mentality of over entitled wimps.

Manager culpable too

 

[doomy20]

Liverpool scored 5 against them, they scored 2 against us. Meaning Liverpool is 7 goals better than us, no progress made since then

 

[mitchmouse]

They hardly scored because of the personnel change. Its because our players failed to do the basics right. First goal was down to not following the runner and second one was from a sloppy error.

Prior to that, we dominated without really threatening. I do; however, believe if we did have better attacking players, we'd have won this game quite easily.

read it again - it was a tactical change not personnel and ETH didn't react

 

[rollingstoned1]

We have mastered the art of pointless possession.

Noodlehair is a visionary, more than a Decade on and his thread is still relevant

 

[48 hours]

My one year old can only say a few words.
I expect him to say feck off on Xmas day when he sees his United kit

 

[Gopher Brown]

Scoring goals last year was a big problem, without Rashfords hot streak we would have really struggled. Hojlund was brought in to address the problem but its not worked.
A new striker in January has to be a priority. Sell VDB and Sancho and spend it wisely !!

Understatement of the century. We can't even get the ball to him. I feel like we don't even attempt to.

 

[Lash]

He is invisible. Basically 10v11

Yep, between him and anyone who plays striker for us (probably linked), it's a toss up who's more anonymous when we play

 

[Camy89]

Can we finally put to bed that Dutch managers don’t work United.

I swear to god if we go down this route again…

 

[Hester_manc]

The fact that we don't score goals is the whole team's problem. After all, we don't even create a single chance. You can blame Garnacho, Højlund or Antony, but it's the whole team that doesn't create the chances. There is no creativity or initiative in the team. Maybe Eriksen can create something in the coming games. But otherwise I can't see at all who can create an assist in this squad

 

[RedIan]

Very Frustrating this was a game we would have won with a more ruthless attack. West ham were dire for 65 minutes. One super defence splitting pass 1-0 and one bad error and suddenly your 2 down.

 

[Frosty]

It doesn’t though, it can turn around in a couple of seasons, you just need a good manager and a plan. Liverpool were a shambles before Klopp came in, City weren’t the team they are until Pep had a couple of seasons, same for Arsenal. Just get it right with the manager and the support around him and you’re back in business with two years, if you have the money.

And the right structure. We have been left to ossify for a decade. Our squad is bloated, overpaid and not good enough. Our FFP is at the limit, and all those other clubs could spend money. That's why I think it will take much longer. Five years ago I would have agreed word for word.

 

[edgecutter]

Playing 4-0-6 again

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

It’s the Dutch way. Keep the ball so the opposition can’t score but do nothing with it

Dutch managers are the biggest frauds going.

 

[Superden]

the tactics are crap. that midfield setup has shown to be ridiculous week after week and he keeps going back to it. lets begin and end there.

 

[sdb4884]

This will continue as long as ETH is allowed to stay.

 

[Blood Mage]

Luke Shaw is a Manchester United player. The rest of this lot wouldn't look out of place playing for Crystal Palace.

 

[Hackman2210]

What do you want from Jonny Evans? He’s done us a favour. He’s another UTD player. Every team needs players like him. At the moment the Utd team are just totally unbalanced. All that money spent and 5 academy products starting.

 

[Paul778]

Honestly, apart from the fact he's an incredibly wealthy dude, I feel sorry for the guy. He's been our best player over the course of the last decade and its not even close.

He'd not displace Irwin

 

[Buster15]

David Moyes eh. What a terrible manager.

 

[Desert Eagle]

380 minutes without a goal.

500,000 minutes without a clue

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Who said we can’t blame the manager?
United is the worst run club in the league. The 2 things are not mutually exclusive

They aren't. And we should be beating the likes of these teams but apparently we are so badly run that we can't. I don't buy that. People can keep making excuses but this is on the manager. Incapable of getting anything out his players, setting up a system or even get this team score some goals.

 

[DRJosh]

Wonder what Sancho thinks of all this? Perhaps too busy playing EA FC 24.

 

[chicha14]

Can't wait to hear the manager say we played well and that we deserved to win..

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

That’s bullshit and you know it. EtH has one of, if not the, highest win percentage of any manager post Fergie

I’m not saying he is or isn’t the worst but that stat hides a lot. We’ve won quite a few we were very lucky to win

 

[Heinzesight]

Garnacho scores his easy chance and we go on to win. It’s a mentally fragile squad plagued by injuries. It’s wank but expected. Who comes in and does any better with the players at his disposal currently? Once we have a settled XI and less injuries maybe people can make more informed decisions.

 

[Lay]

Europa Conference football next season is going to be awful

 

[UnitedSofa]

Scoring goals last year was a big problem, without Rashfords hot streak we would have really struggled. Hojlund was brought in to address the problem but its not worked.
A new striker in January has to be a priority. Sell VDB and Sancho and spend it wisely !!

He wasn’t.

He was brought in as a supplement alongside a more experienced striker.

But our transfer business was so dire we couldn’t get an experienced striker in so have to rely on a very RAW Hojlund.

 

[IRELANDUNITED]

Why can young players only get praised but never criticised for a mistake? Grow up man

You didn’t criticise him for a mistake though, did you? You said the defeat was on him which simply isn’t true.

We were already 1-0 down and the defeat was down to the team, in particular our forwards, being absolutely toothless.

To immediately target an 18 year old for a simple lapse of concentration is wrong. He has been absolutely outstanding in his short career so far. There’s plenty of things you can point to to put today’s defeat on, he shouldn’t be one of them.

 

[TenonTen]

My one year old can only say a few words.
I expect him to say feck off on Xmas day when he sees his United kit

Sorry mate but he's gonna be a Liverpool/City fan very soon.

 

[kouroux]

Best thing about th club is the traveling fans

 

[Man-United]

he barely stroked it. Was very little force

That slap?

 

[Sly]

The fact that we don't score goals is the whole team's problem. After all, we don't even create a single chance. You can blame Garnacho, Højlund or Antony, but it's the whole team that doesn't create the chances. There is no creativity or initiative in the team. Maybe Eriksen can give a little in the coming games. But otherwise I can't see at all who can create an assist in this squad

It's the system and Ten Hag ineptitude. Not only he's doing real damage on United's aspirations, he's also destroying the confidence of players like Garnacho and Hojlund who will be United's future.

 

[madzo2007]

He'd look just as shit if he were here. How many players has the manager improved over the last 18 months?

How many players has any of our managers since Sir Alex improved while they have been here

 

[JeffFromHK]

Absolutely. He should be Captain.

it is astonishing to think that he is the only world class player in the XI today:
awb is England 5th choice RB
Evans is waiting for retirement
Kambwala is a kid
Shaw - 1st choice English LB when fit

McTominay - we all know he is a mid table player
Bruno - not really world class - "chance creating" one trick pony, can't shield the ball, can't carry the ball, can't dribble, can't dictate tempo and poor decision making
Mainoo - just a kid

Antony - one foot pony who can't cross and score
Hojlund - a kid who will probably end up no more than 3 league goals this season even if we start him every game
Garnacho - another kid

we are legitimately a mid table team now.