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I want to hear what the ETH haters are thinking about this .Imagine getting rid of ETH for Potter
I want to hear what the ETH haters are thinking about this .Imagine getting rid of ETH for Potter
It depends what we want. Win the EPL/UCL in the next two seasons, or even compete for the league? No, stay clear off him.There are plenty of good reasons for Potter's failure with Chelsea, no doubt about that. It doesn't really change whether we should pursue him, in my opinion. He was decent with Brighton, and a failed under difficult circumstances at Chelsea. Does that CV justify hiring him as United manager? I would say no.
Potter buckled under the pressure at Chelsea. Not sure that the Utd job is the best next choice for him.It depends what we want. Win the EPL/UCL in the next two seasons, or even compete for the league? No, stay clear off him.
Build a good well-drilled squad of young players that in the future can compete for titles (probably with another manager)? Could be an interesting choice.
Well no, because he was unprofessional anyway and INEOS would likely see him as a rotten apple regardless. And even if they didn't he's only gone on loan.The fact we’ve moved on Sancho shows we’ve no short term plans to sack ETH
I'm not sure. It's a smart move which leaves the door open for him to return. ETH basically will either galvanise the team and do well, or he will be gone by end of season. Currently the latter seems more likely looking at our form and, in that case, Sancho will return I believe.The fact we’ve moved on Sancho shows we’ve no short term plans to sack ETH
Rolling the dice on a manager who has done well in the Prem to replace a manager I am pretty confident in my opinion of him showing he can't cut it in this league.. there's no slam dunk option, but it has to be someone that aligns with the way we want to play. Might work out differently with Potter here.I want to hear what the ETH haters are thinking about this .
Hansi Flick has won the Treble.Potter is coming off a huge fail...he should really have to go somewhere else and prove he's still got it before getting a chance at a United/Real/Bayern etc.
But there are not many alternatives out there, so I can see the attraction for the board. But it screams sideways step to me.
Funny list of clubs. Bayern and Real have no issue with signing less experienced managers or managers who have failed in their last job, when they believe a manager is a good fit.Potter is coming off a huge fail...he should really have to go somewhere else and prove he's still got it before getting a chance at a United/Real/Bayern etc.
Cause he will probably cost north of 20m, and sacking EtH would cost 10-15m (depending if we do it now or in the summer).Even if you were to discount his tenure at Chelsea, why would we go for him and not De Zerbi who is doing better at Brighton
I watch many different teams; mostly Manchester United, who I happen to support.I dont comment on Potter but why this constant love for ETH? And all this rubbish about 'optimal conditions', its called real life. Top managers deal with it. What has he shown in 18 months, last 9 months the football is woeful and some of the worst defeats in our history. His signings are woeful and the squad worst its been for decades. Do you watch a different team?
According to many on here, you can hire only managers that haven't ever failed before or are 'unproven' at a top club. Those that have failed before are therefore worse than ETH (even though he's never proven himself at a top club).Funny list of clubs. Bayern and Real have no issue with signing less experienced managers or managers who have failed in their last job, when they believe a manager is a good fit.
Which club does exist with a similarly broken structure, very mixed team, high expectations and little to back up these expectations recently? Which club can be used as a proof that someone has got what it takes to succeed at United? I honestly can't think of one, so every manager signing will be a kind of gamble (or in other words you have to look very carefully at things that can indicate if he can work under sich circumstances)
I think De Zerbi would be high/top on everyone's list. I just wonder if he would be interested in the move or not, and whether we'd be willing to pay a big fee to bring him in, on top of the fee to sack ETH.Even if you were to discount his tenure at Chelsea, why would we go for him and not De Zerbi who is doing better at Brighton
Providing its only as interim I'd be fine with it.I want to hear what the ETH haters are thinking about this .
The interest in Potter is being driven by INEOS not the Glazers.Are the glazers Liverpool fans and destroying the club from the inside or what?
So INEOS are Liverpool supporters too? Interesting.The interest in Potter is being driven by INEOS not the Glazers.
TBF he moved from possibly the best run club in the UK to a circus.Whether you rate Potter as a coach or not it can’t be denied that he looked completely out of his depth at Chelsea, who are a tiny club in comparison to United.
Utter deer in the headlights like Moyes at United.
That won’t happenProviding its only as interim I'd be fine with it.
We are a circus at timesTBF he moved from possibly the best run club in the UK to a circus.
Yes.We are a circus at times
TrueAt least Onana’s stock was high before we signed him.
For me I can't just forget or look past what he did at Chelsea. Potter would need to win something before I would change my mind.Which club does exist with a similarly broken structure, very mixed team, high expectations and little to back up these expectations recently? Which club can be used as a proof that someone has got what it takes to succeed at United? I honestly can't think of one, so every manager signing will be a kind of gamble (or in other words you have to look very carefully at things that can indicate if he can work under sich circumstances)
Spot on. I'm also failing to see the positives of this possible appointment. We wouldn't look to be poaching him if he were already at a club, and I suspect the fact he's out of work and readily available is heavily driving our interest. If thats the case then its better just sticking with ETH until the end of the season, and then going for a De Zerbie/Amorim type appointment in the summer. It's not like parachuting Graham feckin Potter in now is going to save our season midway.People are vastly overrating his time at Brighton. He finished 15th and 16th before he finished 9th, yet he was supposedly at the best run club in the country?
de Zerbi keeps losing his best players and their style of play and competitiveness doesn’t suffer. He immediately took them up a level upon arrival.
Chelsea was a car crash and, crucially, he couldn’t score goals in the premier league. The very opposite of what we need right now.
He isn’t good enough, he doesn’t have the personality for it, and there is literally nothing in the “pros” column to suggest that he could do it.
It would be daft and destined to fail from the off. More time and resources wasted and confirmation that the change we desperately need isn’t coming.
Do people ever learn.Hansi Flick has won the Treble.
Zinedine Zidane has won Champions League titles back to back to back.
Antonio Conte has won the Premier League (as well as Serie A).
There are free agents who could be a convincing alternative to Potter.
ExactlyPeople are vastly overrating his time at Brighton. He finished 15th and 16th before he finished 9th, yet he was supposedly at the best run club in the country?
de Zerbi keeps losing his best players and their style of play and competitiveness doesn’t suffer. He immediately took them up a level upon arrival.
Chelsea was a car crash and, crucially, he couldn’t score goals in the premier league. The very opposite of what we need right now.
He isn’t good enough, he doesn’t have the personality for it, and there is literally nothing in the “pros” column to suggest that he could do it.
It would be daft and destined to fail from the off. More time and resources wasted and confirmation that the change we desperately need isn’t coming.
Potter took over a club that was flirting with relegation every season, playing awful football under Hughton. De Zerbi took over a highflying team sitting in 4th benefiting from the fruits of Potter's labour. He laid the ground works and was clearly improving the squad each season. To just say he finished 15th, 16th and 9th removes all nuance and context.People are vastly overrating his time at Brighton. He finished 15th and 16th before he finished 9th, yet he was supposedly at the best run club in the country?
de Zerbi keeps losing his best players and their style of play and competitiveness doesn’t suffer. He immediately took them up a level upon arrival.
Chelsea was a car crash and, crucially, he couldn’t score goals in the premier league. The very opposite of what we need right now.
He isn’t good enough, he doesn’t have the personality for it, and there is literally nothing in the “pros” column to suggest that he could do it.
It would be daft and destined to fail from the off. More time and resources wasted and confirmation that the change we desperately need isn’t coming.
I feel like Brighton's ascension was largely down to their ownership and scouting system, more so than Potter's coaching. I'm not downplaying Potter's work at Brighton, but I feel like his legacy there is overrated.Potter took over a club that was flirting with relegation every season, playing awful football under Hughton. De Zerbi took over a highflying team sitting in 4th benefiting from the fruits of Potter's labour. He laid the ground works and was clearly improving the squad each season. To just say he finished 15th, 16th and 9th removes all nuance and context.
The Brighton he took over wasn't the Brighton we see today. They went through a process of improvement over several years and Potter had a big hand in that. De Zerbi walked into a completely different club than the one Potter walked into.
I'm not arguing for Potter's credentials as a potential United manager. I think both parties should stay well away from each other but I think you're doing a massive, massive disservice to him by the way you've characterised his Brighton years.
If I was Palace, I would be looking at him. Don’t get me wrong.Potter took over a club that was flirting with relegation every season, playing awful football under Hughton. De Zerbi took over a highflying team sitting in 4th benefiting from the fruits of Potter's labour. He laid the ground works and was clearly improving the squad each season. To just say he finished 15th, 16th and 9th removes all nuance and context.
The Brighton he took over wasn't the Brighton we see today. They went through a process of improvement over several years and Potter had a big hand in that. De Zerbi walked into a completely different club than the one Potter walked into.
I'm not arguing for Potter's credentials as a potential United manager. I think both parties should stay well away from each other but I think you're doing a massive, massive disservice to him by the way you've characterised his Brighton years.
But you are downplaying his work at Brighton if you say it is largely down to their ownership and scouting system. Why is De Zerbi getting so many plaudits then? It's still the same ownership and scouting system as when Potter was there.I feel like Brighton's ascension was largely down to their ownership and scouting system, more so than Potter's coaching. I'm not downplaying Potter's work at Brighton, but I feel like his legacy there is overrated.