Not exactly sure of your point. We know the structure is broken, though over last few years it hasn't stopped quite a few muppets defending Murtough, Arnold and others. But also a decent coach can elevate things above the rubbish we are now seeing. It is not about trophies or results, again some people cant see past that. We look awful on the pitch, utterly disjointed and directionless. We were really poor quite a bit of second half of last season, without injuries. At least with Spurs you can see exactly what the manager wants, and even in defeat they have generally played well and created plenty of chances. We play badly, create few chances and lose. The really worrying thing about ETH is his arrogance, refusing to speak to Rangnick (Pep always wanted to learn from everyone) and then signings such dross. Weghorst, Antony, Amrabat. Most of the others not much better. He knew Antony inside out and yet was desperate for them. It was extensively reported ETH wanted final say on transfers, so he may well have overriden even a good structure. He flip flops, one minute McT and Maguire are out the door, the next they are first names on the sheet. Its an incredibly tough job but he's all over the place