I thought we got rid of this practice.
Rashford out partying at nightclub hours before reporting as too ill to attend training
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Embarassing from Rashford.
We shouldn’t.
I think he's irreversibly damaged his reputation with the fans this year. He's supposed to be a senior voice in the changing rooms at this point, especially when you consider his wages, and yet he's acting like he's a youth team player still.
I can only hope that INEOS have made it clear to everyone on a big contract that they'll be sold if they don't perform, and I'm basing that on the noise around certain players leaving or not having their big contracts renewed after being poor for an extended period of time.
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The kind of thing that redcafe posters live for..... Until the inevitable backfire. Then onto the next underperformer/scapegoat!
Groundhog Day
It's indefensible, a shocking attitude and lack of respect for his position. The club is in a right old mess with this because he is on a stupid contract so it is going to be extremely difficult and costly to the club to shift him, and Rashford knows this.
I'm not sure selling him is the big threat ye all seem to think it is. There would have to be a carrot there for him to agree.
Are you that nieve?
I've been so sick of Rashford for so long.
He's been allowed to get away with so much for so long by multiple managers that I'm not at all surprised by stuff like this now.
He's detrimental to the team and the club and he shouldn't play for us again.
He's been allowed to get away with so much for so long by multiple managers that I'm not at all surprised by stuff like this now.
He's detrimental to the team and the club and he shouldn't play for us again.
Perhaps we need to add 'recalibrating the club's relationship with its fans' to Ratcliffe's ever increasing list of necessary improvements. The disrespect particularly to match going fans is as poor as our performances and the two aren't mutually exclusive, it's one thing to play poorly but to play poorly and offer no effort on and off the pitch is unacceptable.
He apparently did come in to training. His flight landed before 8am. The fact he apparently reported, but wasn’t able to train, suggests it might be a minor injury rather than sickness?
“But ETH clearly said he was ill.” Yes, but this wouldn’t be the first time ETH has confused sickness and injury by saying players have been “ill” in a press conference this season. Happened with at least three other players at other times this season alone. They talk about this nearly every other week on the Talk of the Devils podcast, how the manager uses “ill” as a catch-all for players not being available.
Who else could we sign for his wages and the transfer fee we would receive for him?
ViniJr/Mbappe/Son/Leao/Mitoma/Chukwueze
Or use the money on a striker instead and leave the left wing for Garnacho as the starter.
Ohsimen/Schick/Toney
Either way I think it's time we cashed in and sold him to PSG. I think they go for it and give him Mbappes place in the lineup.
ViniJr/Mbappe/Son/Leao/Mitoma/Chukwueze
Or use the money on a striker instead and leave the left wing for Garnacho as the starter.
Ohsimen/Schick/Toney
Either way I think it's time we cashed in and sold him to PSG. I think they go for it and give him Mbappes place in the lineup.
Do you think they’d find a buyer though? Haven’t United just put him on 300k+ per week in order to keep him long term?
PSG are probably the only ones I can see pulling a deal off, especially if Mbappe leaves
However I think any new manager would want to keep Rashford. Complicated personality but if you tap into him you have a top class player
I think we would struggle to sell him.
I think that psg ship has sailed.
Firstly you need to find someone to buy him, and then the player has to agree.
Not really much of a threat.
Yeah we’re not professional footballers
Mbappe replacement please.
its not just Rashford, the club have rewarded mediocrity for years.
Even with the Sancho situation. If reports are true the players are probably looking on and seeing Sancho rewarded with a loan to a team still in the champions league and paying part of his wages. I know from the clubs point of view they will spin it with long game and trying to increase value with the clubs FFP issues. The club should if tried to make an example of him.
The main thing for me is that it demonstrates what we have long suspected. Lack of determination and application.
It's often visible on the pitch, but I'm generally wary to assume it as truth as it could be a mix of other factors fans aren't aware of (tactical instructions to conserve energy, personal issues or playing through injury for example). But it's increasingly apparent over time, and the off field stuff just reinforces what people have been saying for years.
Difference now is we actually have Garnacho, so Rashford's (largely undeserved) status as untouchable is no longer a thing. The squad is one genuine starting RW away from Rashford being a bench player. Mount can also play LW and provide more control. Youngsters like Pellistri, Amad, Hannibal, Gore etc on the fringes looking to break through (to varying degress of likelihood and like-for-likeness). Rashford leaving seems like much more of a possibility in the not so distant future than it ever has before. And rather than fighting tooth and nail to turn things around, it seems like Rashford is content with that outcome.
It's often visible on the pitch, but I'm generally wary to assume it as truth as it could be a mix of other factors fans aren't aware of (tactical instructions to conserve energy, personal issues or playing through injury for example). But it's increasingly apparent over time, and the off field stuff just reinforces what people have been saying for years.
Difference now is we actually have Garnacho, so Rashford's (largely undeserved) status as untouchable is no longer a thing. The squad is one genuine starting RW away from Rashford being a bench player. Mount can also play LW and provide more control. Youngsters like Pellistri, Amad, Hannibal, Gore etc on the fringes looking to break through (to varying degress of likelihood and like-for-likeness). Rashford leaving seems like much more of a possibility in the not so distant future than it ever has before. And rather than fighting tooth and nail to turn things around, it seems like Rashford is content with that outcome.
Who would want him?
We're all people.
I think we need to move him on. We need to make a statement saying it’s unacceptable and the player is suspended/for sale. It’s just completely unacceptable.
Losing Rashford and Martial over the coming 6 months will be the best start INEOS could make. The standard needs raising and Rashford has shown both on and off the pitch that his attitude is terrible.
Get rid, remove him from the squad.
Losing Rashford and Martial over the coming 6 months will be the best start INEOS could make. The standard needs raising and Rashford has shown both on and off the pitch that his attitude is terrible.
Get rid, remove him from the squad.
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What a thoroughly stupid post
We need to go away from pretenders, tiktokers, instagramians that have been in our club for far to long. It might hurt us in short run but in a longer run, it would be good for the club. Sell them all. Until then, fine them all for everything that goes against club or normal human behaviour. They behave like children that lack everything in terms of being good employees. Non grateful, zero character, no passion or desire and disrespecting the ones who gives them salary.
Fine them every week. Let money stay in the club. Let it hurt in their wallets and lets see if their game will rise. People talk about Glazer taking out money. The amount of money lot of our pretenders have taken is shocking.
It’s a show of disrespect to his teammates and us fans who count on him if it is true that he was out the night before training in Belfast.
But did the manager/club allow him to stay at home?
Plus sections of the British media don't need an excuse to run a negative story about Man Utd and especially Rashford.
There would be a news blackout and first we would hear is "Rashford in Shock Newcastle Move!"
Ten Hag is in dire need of some media training it has to be said.
That would be insane considering he could infect others - depending not the type of illness of course. You don't go in anywhere if you're ill with something contagious. That said, Rashford is a fecking idiot for going out clubbing - and should be punished accordingly.
I'm not.
It's as if he wants me to dislike him even more than I already do. Just get rid.
Has that mural been painted over yet? If not I suspect it will be by the end of the season.
They can always freeze him out like they did with Sancho. I’m pretty sure he’d have suitors, he’d tear it up in a weaker league.
If he was ill due to being out the evening before as someone said a session in the sauna would have done him good. If he was actually ill, then no way would he be allowed to stay around the squad.
What I think should happen
1) Rashford apologises
2) out of the squad for a few matches
3) return to the bench
4) Rashford keeps his head down and trains well
1) Rashford apologises
2) out of the squad for a few matches
3) return to the bench
4) Rashford keeps his head down and trains well
We're not elite level athletes
Could be a blessing in disguise this:
Hopefully, this will be the start of him getting sold. Any funds, like Greenwood too, are good for FFP. Rashford is easily replaced and wages will be half of his.
He won’t be missed. This season alone should serve as reason that he’s way too inconsistent to continue to start for us. Bruno will stay and he’s too inconsistent also - can’t afford to have 2 of them starting.
Unfortunately, I think he comes out and apologises and gets back in the side. His poor season continues and we are back to square one.
Hopefully, this will be the start of him getting sold. Any funds, like Greenwood too, are good for FFP. Rashford is easily replaced and wages will be half of his.
He won’t be missed. This season alone should serve as reason that he’s way too inconsistent to continue to start for us. Bruno will stay and he’s too inconsistent also - can’t afford to have 2 of them starting.
Unfortunately, I think he comes out and apologises and gets back in the side. His poor season continues and we are back to square one.
@duffer might be.
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