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No fan of Inter Miami whatsoever - nothing to do with the other clown people always want to talk about - but because I watch their local rivals, who are crucially by far the best club in the Florida, but I don't see any reason for criticism here. If a player is deemed as unfit or injured, they shouldn't play, certainly not in a meaningless friendly. This says far more about the idiots paying crazy money to watch an individual rather than the football team and should serve as a warning for those in the US who will continue to pay 10 times the usual match price just because Messi might be on the pitch. It is a team sport, you pay to watch the team, not the individual so don't cry if your favourite player doesn't play.
That's true...but the ones that arranged the friendly know that the whole appeal is Messi being there.

It would be required by contract for the organizers and Inter to announce that Messi won't play beforehand, more than probably nope, but as a PR thing, maybe they should. Yet like I've said before if there was some sort of possibility off a refund if people had this info before hand, more than probably they preffered the PR backlash than loosing money. I trully don't know, the whole thing more than probably isn't illegal or failing to what was agree in the contract, but that's why it's mostly a PR problem.
 
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No fan of Inter Miami whatsoever - nothing to do with the other clown people always want to talk about - but because I watch their local rivals, who are crucially by far the best club in the Florida, but I don't see any reason for criticism here. If a player is deemed as unfit or injured, they shouldn't play, certainly not in a meaningless friendly. This says far more about the idiots paying crazy money to watch an individual rather than the football team and should serve as a warning for those in the US who will continue to pay 10 times the usual match price just because Messi might be on the pitch. It is a team sport, you pay to watch the team, not the individual so don't cry if your favourite player doesn't play.
I think that's the most controversial part. He doesn't seem injured at all after his no show in Hong Kong, when he participate his full training session in Japan only 2 days after his no show. He has also admitted theres has been no reported injury from his medical scan before the game, he just feeling not well with his body so he didn't play. And there's no announcement of his injury until after the half time during the match, which is strange. So that's probably his own decision not to play that game.
 

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There's no point for Messi to speak Spanish to some Cantonese and English speakers.

Anyway they should be lucky they got to even see Messi in person and be so close to him. Even if he didn't play. It's still worth $1000 or more.
Wow.

I hope for your sake that you're taking the piss :lol:.
 

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It’s not only a case of not playing. He has been very uncooperative and near zero interaction with the fans throughout this stay in Hong Kong.
Pure BS.. why are you spreading these lies?

He literally kicked the ball, waved at the fans and helped a guy who got tackled by security and signed for him.
He even played with local children during the training in Hong Kong, see below link.

www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3250827/lionel-messis-hong-kong-visit-fans-head-stadium-open-training-session-told-not-go-without-tickets

Maybe for some reason he just hate Hong Kong and the Chinese, that’s how the people there felt strongly at the moment.
see below, does Ronaldo for some reason hate South Koreans?

"South Korean Fans File Lawsuit After Cristiano Ronaldo Misses Juventus Friendly"
www.bleacherreport.com/articles/2847726-south-korean-fans-file-lawsuit-after-cristiano-ronaldo-misses-juventus-friendly
 
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Wow.

I hope for your sake that you're taking the piss :lol:.
Messi and CR7 fans are a different breed. Despite enjoying both of their careers, I can't wait until they retire so their fans can feck off with them
 

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The fact that both sides of this stupidly partisan argument are literally making me internally beg for two of the greatest players ever to retire as soon as possible is crazy.

Some of you should just switch off.
 

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Pure BS.. why are you spreading these lies?

He literally kicked the ball, waved at the fans and helped a guy who got tackled by security and signed for him.
He even played with local children during the training in Hong Kong, see below link.

www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3250827/lionel-messis-hong-kong-visit-fans-head-stadium-open-training-session-told-not-go-without-tickets
Good find and good work calling him out. All Ronaldostans have left is the fake news information war. Belongs in tiktok, not here.
 

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The fact that both sides of this stupidly partisan argument are literally making me internally beg for two of the greatest players ever to retire as soon as possible is crazy.

Some of you should just switch off.
The world would be a better place if they did. Switch off that is.
 

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Good find and good work calling him out. All Ronaldostans have left is the fake news information war. Belongs in tiktok, not here.
They completely lost it after the WC, this is their new way of coping, so we need to be more tolerant & understanding until they're done with their never-ending therapy sessions :lol:
 

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Here you go nutters. More plausible than Messi randomly being racist towards chinese.

 

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There's no point for Messi to speak Spanish to some Cantonese and English speakers.

Anyway they should be lucky they got to even see Messi in person and be so close to him. Even if he didn't play. It's still worth $1000 or more.
:lol: how much would you pay for a lock of his hair?!
 

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Good find and good work calling him out. All Ronaldostans have left is the fake news information war. Belongs in tiktok, not here.
Indeed, Messistans are the only ones left.

It's a true shame that any thread involving one of them automatically devolves into a cesspit infested by cultists from either side.
 

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Indeed, Messistans are the only ones left.

It's a true shame that any thread involving one of them automatically devolves into a cesspit infested by cultists from either side.
Natural to get a reaction when you call Messi a racist/hater of a certain demographic in a Messi thread using misinformation & lies..

The guy alleging that disappeared after my post showing his hypocrisy & lies, not even an apology. You can say a lot of good or bad things about any player including Messi, but need to be very careful before calling someone racist or a hater of a certain demographic, and especially should avoid using lies to support that position.
 

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Here you go nutters. More plausible than Messi randomly being racist towards chinese.

Apparently the Chinese and the Hong Kong officials are not accepting that explanation, especially he has recovered fully immediately after his no show since and played in Japan friendly just days after.

But that's no big deal to his global fan base though, just one country population getting mad at him, don't think he cares.
 

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Apparently the Chinese and the Hong Kong officials are not accepting that explanation, especially he has recovered fully immediately after his no show since and played in Japan friendly just days after.

But that's no big deal to his global fan base though, just one country population getting mad at him, don't think he cares.
Hates Chinese but loves Japanese

Maybe he felt secure that his slight injury was over. Or maybe it was a massive political statement against the CCP.
 
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Maybe he felt secure that his slight injury was over. Or maybe it was a massive political statement against the CCP.
Why not? Don't hundreds of millions of Japanese do that?
 

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Why not? Don't hundreds of millions of Japanese do that?
People really need to provide a reliable source for Messi's alleged racist attitudes towards chinese people. Heard it somewhere or read it somewhere doesnt cut it.
 

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Apparently the Chinese and the Hong Kong officials are not accepting that explanation, especially he has recovered fully immediately after his no show since and played in Japan friendly just days after.

But that's no big deal to his global fan base though, just one country population getting mad at him, don't think he cares.
What Chinese and hong kong officials? Source? Is it Chinese state media?
 

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People really need to provide a reliable source for Messi's alleged racist attitudes towards chinese people. Heard it somewhere or read it somewhere doesnt cut it.
The main thing it's not if Messi hates the chinese, thinks the Krauts are scum, the French dirty...
Messi in the way he operates in general with Media (unless is some sort of more intimate interview with people he at least respects or likes) WOULD NEVER do such a declaration, the only way to catch him in sthg like that, would be like anyone of us, being filmed taking trash among friends.

The fella very very few times do not control his speech regarding social issues, in fact barely talks about them if any.
This BTW and as a side note, it's a sign of many modern athletes that I do not find great.

I preffer the Socrates, Ali, Diego, Nole, Cantona type (agreeing or not) when sometimes spoke their believes (even if contradictory in ocasions)...than the lean Corporate speaker style too many times Pele did, or the mostly the non speaker but Corporate in ACTS like Messi, Jordan and so on...I like some public outbursts of CR, I do not like it when he goes over the top with his narcissism, mostly because he ain't funny as Romario, Ibra, Diego and sometimes Pele could be. Just my taste and two cents, but would be really hard to catch Messi of guard with strong declarations unless (like with Laporta or Bartomeu) he really wants to go hard.

PD: Devaneious is cool, but sometimes a bit too much proud Brazie and let his nick take control. He has a good taste (comes with the nationality, the fellas had sublime players since day one), but still rides the Xavi/Iniesta sort of made Messi, now the lad made a Racist public declaration and also the CR is not a great header, just a great jump, saying Crespo had a better technique and Pele had the same "issue" as CR, just to look impartial...which is kind of silly but funny at the same time.
 
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The main thing it's not if Messi hates the chinese, thinks the Krauts are scum, the French dirty...
Messi in the way he operates in general with Media (unless is some sort of more intimate interview with people he at least respects or likes) WOULD NEVER do such a declaration, the only way to catch him in sthg like that, would be like anyone of us being filmed taking trash among friends.

The fella very very few times do not control his speech regarding social issues, barely talks about if any.
This BTW and as aside note, it's a sign of many modern athletes that I do not find great.
I preffer the Socrates, Ali, Diego, Nole, Cantona (agreeing or not) when sometimes spoke their believes (even if contradictory in ocasions)...than the lean Corporate speaker style too many times Pele did, or the mostly the non speaker but Corporate in ACTS like Messi, Jordan and so on...I like some public outbursts of CR, I do not like it when he goes over the top with his narcissism, mostly because he ain't funny as Romario, Ibra, Diego and sometimes Pele could be. Just my taste and two cents, but would be really hard to catch Messi of guard with strong declarations unless (like with Laporta or Bartomeu) he really wants to go hard.

PD: Devaneious is cool, but sometimes a bit too much proud Brazie and let his nick take control. He has a good taste (comes with the nationality, the fellas had sublime players since day one), but still rides the Xavi/Iniesta sort of made Messi, now the lad made a Racist public declaration and also the CR is not a great header, just a great jump, saying Crespo had a better technique and Pele had the same "issue" as CR, just to look impartial...which is kind of silly but funny at the same time.
Messi is boring. But there is still no source for him to be racist towards chinese. Without a source its a trash statement. Messi is so bland its hard to believe he has strong views just about anything.
 

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Messi is boring. But there is still no source for him to be racist towards chinese. Without a source its a trash statement. Messi is so bland its hard to believe he has strong views just about anything.
There won't be, it's like many other posters have been saying lately in this thread, it's just beyond silly to discuss it. And the way he is "attacked and defended" jesus christ, cringes as fvck.
PD: We live in an Era of Trash "information (desinformation)" regarding everything, sadly regarding a lot more serious issues than this fecking non issue.

Yet just to chat, I do not think Messi is bland regarding his personality, on the contrary, he is extremely stubborn and capricious with what he cares and wants...and if he has any social/political opinion, he would keep it to himself, family and closer friends...he doesn't want any sort of backlash, like most pro sports nowadays, he tries to avoid them.
 

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Messi is boring. But there is still no source for him to be racist towards chinese. Without a source its a trash statement. Messi is so bland its hard to believe he has strong views just about anything.
Messi only cares about football and his family. I even doubt he knows the basics of the different political systems there are.
 

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What Chinese and hong kong officials? Source? Is it Chinese state media?
Look I am not putting blame on Messi side on this. Its his choice of ignoring or disrespecting particular population of fans from the country he dislikes. He doesn't have to please every fans from every country after all, as he is only a footballer, but not ambassador of football. And yes, there are tons of sources from Chinese and Hong Kong media this coupe of days, Its biggest talk over there right now. If you just go visit Messi Instagram, its bombarded with huge amount of hatred comments from Chinese fans right now, and Its has almost risen to national level of hatred over there.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/05/sport/hong-kong-messi-snub-inter-miami-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-lionel-messi-inter-miami-b2490674.html

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/lionel-m...ee-accusations-of-disrespecting-chinese-fans/

https://time.com/6660600/hong-kong-fans-angry-messi-inter-miami-injury/

https://time.com/6692207/china-reactions-messi-hong-kong-japan/

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-over-messi-behavior-grows-033922460.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
 

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Messi only cares about football and his family. I even doubt he knows the basics of the different political systems there are.
... and the money, even if initially he wasn't that money oriented, in the way he let his father and others managed his affairs, also shows that he wants that level of insane income while at the same time not getting his hands dirty directly.

It's impossible for him to not have political relantionships with different leaders and he might like more or less certain figures, but till now he won't make those opnions public...at least till now, future will tell, Tevez was that way, Aguero too, and lately they have aligned with the right wing and certain leaders
 

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Look I am not putting blame on Messi side on this. Its his choice of ignoring or disrespecting particular population of fans from the country he dislikes. He doesn't have to please every fans from every country after all, as he is only a footballer, but not ambassador of football. And yes, there are tons of sources from Chinese and Hong Kong media this coupe of days, Its biggest talk over there right now. If you just go visit Messi Instagram, its bombarded with huge amount of hatred comments from Chinese fans right now, and Its has almost risen to national level of hatred over there.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/05/sport/hong-kong-messi-snub-inter-miami-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-lionel-messi-inter-miami-b2490674.html

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/lionel-m...ee-accusations-of-disrespecting-chinese-fans/

https://time.com/6660600/hong-kong-fans-angry-messi-inter-miami-injury/

https://time.com/6692207/china-reactions-messi-hong-kong-japan/

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-over-messi-behavior-grows-033922460.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
You know the Chinese state media is in complete harmony with the state media of North Korea. Its in their DNA to cry offense all the time about everything. And if you think im ignorant about that ill let you know my father, uncle and auntie were born and raised in Hangzhou.
 

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Look I am not putting blame on Messi side on this. Its his choice of ignoring or disrespecting particular population of fans from the country he dislikes. He doesn't have to please every fans from every country after all, as he is only a footballer, but not ambassador of football. And yes, there are tons of sources from Chinese and Hong Kong media this coupe of days, Its biggest talk over there right now. If you just go visit Messi Instagram, its bombarded with huge amount of hatred comments from Chinese fans right now, and Its has almost risen to national level of hatred over there.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/05/sport/hong-kong-messi-snub-inter-miami-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-lionel-messi-inter-miami-b2490674.html

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/lionel-m...ee-accusations-of-disrespecting-chinese-fans/

https://time.com/6660600/hong-kong-fans-angry-messi-inter-miami-injury/

https://time.com/6692207/china-reactions-messi-hong-kong-japan/

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-over-messi-behavior-grows-033922460.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
says the guy who said "It’s not only a case of not playing. He has been very uncooperative and near zero interaction with the fans throughout this stay in Hong Kong."

You still didn't explain why you are spreading these lies. What is your agenda? How did you come to the conclusion that Messi dislikes Chinese? imagine still having the face to post in this thread. are you gonna apologize to posters for the lies you are spreading here?

www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3250827/lionel-messis-hong-kong-visit-fans-head-stadium-open-training-session-told-not-go-without-tickets

You still didn't explain if Ronaldo hates South Koreans too, because using your weird logic, he surely disrespected and dislikes South Koreans.

" The fans filed a lawsuit against the local South Korean agency when Ronaldo did not play in a friendly against a K-League All-Star team in Seoul last July. Per the lawsuit, fans were told Ronaldo would play at least 45 minutes. Rather, he stayed on the bench the entire match."

www.sports.yahoo.com/cristiano-ronaldo-south-korea-friendly-fans-awarded-compensation-by-court-193929098.html#:~:text=The%20fans%20filed%20a%20lawsuit,the%20bench%20the%20entire%20match.
 
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Look I am not putting blame on Messi side on this. Its his choice of ignoring or disrespecting particular population of fans from the country he dislikes. He doesn't have to please every fans from every country after all, as he is only a footballer, but not ambassador of football. And yes, there are tons of sources from Chinese and Hong Kong media this coupe of days, Its biggest talk over there right now. If you just go visit Messi Instagram, its bombarded with huge amount of hatred comments from Chinese fans right now, and Its has almost risen to national level of hatred over there.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/05/sport/hong-kong-messi-snub-inter-miami-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-lionel-messi-inter-miami-b2490674.html

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/lionel-m...ee-accusations-of-disrespecting-chinese-fans/

https://time.com/6660600/hong-kong-fans-angry-messi-inter-miami-injury/

https://time.com/6692207/china-reactions-messi-hong-kong-japan/

https://news.yahoo.com/anger-over-messi-behavior-grows-033922460.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Come on Red, stop this cringe stuff for christ sake hahaha....what does any of that have to do with Messi declaring he hates the Chinese? pretty sure he might start hating them now with all that yellow press...this is "he doesn't sing the national anthem, he ain't argie" level of stupidity "debate".
 

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JUST feckING STOP!

every article against CR or Messi put here it's more cringe than the other.

The people that organized the match, should have say Messi wasn't going to play, it was a good nature thing to do, but since this is bizzness with lots of money involved, they didn't, nor Inter, nor the Organizers and now becomes the typical "News" that generates money and clicks by the millions
 

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You know the Chinese state media is in complete harmony with the state media of North Korea. Its in their DNA to cry offense all the time about everything. And if you think im ignorant about that ill let you know my father, uncle and auntie were born and raised in Hangzhou.
The Chinese official hasn't spoke a word about this yet, I should have rephrased properly, I mean the Chinese populations and the Hong Kong officials who have been very outspoken on this over last couple of days
 

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Come on Red, stop this cringe stuff for christ sake hahaha....what does any of that have to do with Messi declaring he hates the Chinese? pretty sure he might start hating them now with all that yellow press...this is "he doesn't sing the national anthem, he ain't argie" level of stupidity "debate".
Well I am just saying the Chinese are very mad at Messi right now, and they thought Messi has disrespected them.
 

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says the guy who said "It’s not only a case of not playing. He has been very uncooperative and near zero interaction with the fans throughout this stay in Hong Kong."

You still didn't explain why you are spreading these lies. What is your agenda? How did you come to the conclusion that Messi dislikes Chinese? imagine still having the face to post in this thread. are you gonna apologize to posters for the lies you are spreading here?

www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3250827/lionel-messis-hong-kong-visit-fans-head-stadium-open-training-session-told-not-go-without-tickets

You still didn't explain if Ronaldo hates South Koreans too, because using your weird logic, he surely disrespected and dislikes South Koreans.

" The fans filed a lawsuit against the local South Korean agency when Ronaldo did not play in a friendly against a K-League All-Star team in Seoul last July. Per the lawsuit, fans were told Ronaldo would play at least 45 minutes. Rather, he stayed on the bench the entire match."

www.sports.yahoo.com/cristiano-ronaldo-south-korea-friendly-fans-awarded-compensation-by-court-193929098.html#:~:text=The%20fans%20filed%20a%20lawsuit,the%20bench%20the%20entire%20match.
Its not even about Messi vs Ronaldo. Don't know why you always feel the need to put Ronaldo into every conversation regarding Messi.
 

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Its not even about Messi vs Ronaldo. Don't know why you always feel the need to put Ronaldo into every conversation regarding Messi.
RedRonaldo logic: Messi didn't play in HK therefore dislikes/hates/disrespects Chinese
RedRonaldo response when shown Ronaldo did the same in South Korea: why are you bringing Ronaldo here?

RedRonaldo lie: he has been very uncooperative and near zero interaction with the fans throughout this stay in Hong Kong
RedRonaldo response when his lie was exposed: no response

Is it possible to have a thread-ban for RedRonaldo here?

I was threadbanned in Ronaldo thread for putting laughing emojis next to Ronaldo's NT stats vs Mbappe etc. Creating chaos here with lies on such sensitive issues like one's race/nation should have consequences, it shouldn't be that easy to defame people like that..
 

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The Chinese official hasn't spoke a word about this yet, I should have rephrased properly, I mean the Chinese populations and the Hong Kong officials who have been very outspoken on this over last couple of days
The large majority of comments are from hong kong officials in Chinese media. Im sure you managed to notice Hong Kong is back to belonging to China and don't have free media anymore. Im sure fans are pissed to not seeing him play regardless.