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langster said:
I broke my toe and two ribs yesterday so am in bed and bored out my mind and a little bit wrecked on codeine, hence my lengthy posts. It's the only thing keeping the pain away tbh as watching telly wasn't doing the job.
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Stay away from the telly tomorrow if you’re a United fan. That probably won’t help at all
 

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langster said:
No, just disappointed and as I said bored of the continual bollocks and denial and shifting goal posts or Hamas sympathiser insults.
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The issue is that Israel's behavior is very hard to defend so anyone sane who supports Israel wisely chooses silence.

Not even hating, it's what I would do.
 

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Just seeing US airdropping aid. Biden loves to be humiliated.
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It's a disgrace to humanity. 500 trucks just few kilometers away but he cant pick up the phone and tell fecking Netanyahu to let them in? This war just showing the true colours of the western governments and media establishment.
 

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marktan said:
Well yes when 99% of the us politicians are paid for by the Zionist lobby. And the ones that aren't are going to have heavy spending against them in upcoming primaries

It's how the electoral system is set up and they exploit it. Biggest weakness in the current democratic system by far
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This is the biggest myth. It's actually the US politicians funding the lobby from US tax payers. Who in turn are paying the US politicians back. It's that pointing spiderman meme. The American and Israeli governments are one and the same entity.
 

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Intense night of bombing according to all sources.
 

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VorZakone said:
We judge countries on what they did in 1900 now?
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We judge them from being consistent. They are settler colonizer countries supporting a settler colonizer country. And france did that in 1900s continuously passing through algeria and still having colonies and now supporting israel. Personally i only judge this governments and people that condone it. Not people that never did something similar. They are not guilty of past generations behavior
 

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VorZakone said:
We judge countries on what they did in 1900 now?
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I guess the context went over your head.

Check what I am replying to.

But now while you mentioned it. France still exploiting multiple african countries and benefiting of it's poverty, neo colonialism and stuff. you know.
 
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I think the analysis tweets were posted here before. It doesn't matter much now of course because they bombed dozens of hospitals since then. It is still one of the things that some "neutrals" or even pro-Palestine posters believe it wasn't Israel who did it. Genocide supporters naturally use it as an excuse for any atrocity committed.

https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/israeli-disinformation-al-ahli-hospital
 

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Idxomer said:

I think the analysis tweets were posted here before. It doesn't matter much now of course because they bombed dozens of hospitals since then. It is still one of the things that some "neutrals" or even pro-Palestine posters believe it wasn't Israel who did it. Genocide supporters naturally use it as an excuse for any atrocity committed.

https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/israeli-disinformation-al-ahli-hospital
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I believe it was Israel, without looking at any bullshit from agenda driven media. But FA came with a great analysis so they just confirmed my beliefs.
 

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VorZakone said:
A sarcastic post with a tweet about the US dropping aid into Gaza, and you think lemme share a France-related clip from 1900.
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Yes, exactly, a sarcastic post, about the most powerful country in the world dropping breadcrumbs on subhuman arabs while they are starving to death because of the same country. It's both astonishing and a disgrace that THE united states, can not tell a racist corrupt leader like Netanyahu to let the hundreds/thousands trucks on the border to get in. Not only that. It is the only country in the world that opposes a fecking ceasefire.
 

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Giggsyking said:
Yes, exactly, a sarcastic post, about the most powerful country in the world dropping breadcrumbs on subhuman arabs while they are starving to death because of the same country. It's both astonishing and a disgrace that THE united states, can not tell a racist corrupt leader like Netanyahu to let the hundreds/thousands trucks on the border to get in. Not only that. It is the only country in the world that opposes a fecking ceasefire.
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I get that.

But I don't see the point of a 1900 clip of French colonialism.
 

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VorZakone said:
I get that.

But I don't see the point of a 1900 clip of French colonialism.
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I was just sharing a moment in history that mimics the situation today. 2.1m civilian are starving to death, and you drop food that is only enough for a fraction of the population and for short period of a time and the US administration had the audacity to brag about it. It is pretty disgusting.
 

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Giggsyking said:

38,000 meals.

for 2.1m person.
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I hope their aim has got better, the US is well known for friendly fire. The US dropping a pitiful amount of food for over 2 million people while Israel is dropping bombs provided by the US. It's plainly obvious why they are the only country who vetos the ceasefire votes. To be fair though, at least they are honest. The UK abstaining to vote is weak and fecking pathetic, which is to be expected from the shameless wankers we've had for 14 years.
 

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langster said:
I hope their aim has got better, the US is well known for friendly fire. The US dropping a pitiful amount of food for over 2 million people while Israel is dropping bombs provided by the US. It's plainly obvious why they are the only country who vetos the ceasefire votes. To be fair though, at least they are honest. The UK abstaining to vote is weak and fecking pathetic, which is to be expected from the shameless wankers we've had for 14 years.
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VorZakone said:
We judge countries on what they did in 1900 now?
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This sentiment is one of the reasons Israel is committing their genocide and will get away with it. In 50 years, the next generation of Israeli people will say that they should not be held responsible for the actions of their previous generation, but they can reap all the benefits of it.
 
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A state run by terrorists, the two threads are worth reading.
 

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Beachryan said:
Maybe some progress? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ion-arrives-for-gaza-ceasefire-talks-in-cairo
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Hamas will never agree to a temporary cease-fire that would see all the Israeli hostages released and then watch Israel resume the carnage in six weeks, without any kind of restraint (no that they've showed any, but still) or the domestic pressure, the latter being the biggest thorn in Netanyahu's side. No fecking way, things have gone too far that.

Ain't going to happen, imo, at least not in the terms depicted. What's more interesting is to watch is what Israel is going to do in those six weeks, should a temporary cease-fire indeed occurs. Lebanon, here we come.
 
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