You need two athletic powerful runners in the middle of the park to make up the spaces, he had these in Hjulmand and Morita at Sporting. He doesn’t at Utd, potentially the young players but he doesn’t trust them over a slow Casemiro/Eriksen. Wing backs can’t push on as wingers when the midfield is constantly overrun.
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We don’t have the squad at all to play a 2 man midfield. This 343 isn’t working whatsoever.
Does it even work in the PL? That midfield is too light for it
Ok
But before we signed him the excuse was "we need proper WBs". Now we have one and nothing has changed. Now its "we need different CMs". Which is probably the case, I'm not disputing you.
But this is kind of proving a problem with Amorims one way of playing.
Neville may as well just say he wants Amorim sacked at this point. Calling his tactics a disgrace.
I think he’s completely clueless if I’m honest. We are constantly overrun in midfield, it’s the exact same issue as under Ten Hag.
Bruno can’t play CM but every week he’s in that role. We lose all attacking threat we had which came through him.
Casemiro should never play for us again. Would rather see a youngster that can run for 90 minutes.
We now have Dorgu and Dalot on the correct wings which makes you wonder why he even tried them on opposite wings against Leicester.
Bruno can’t play CM but every week he’s in that role. We lose all attacking threat we had which came through him.
Casemiro should never play for us again. Would rather see a youngster that can run for 90 minutes.
We now have Dorgu and Dalot on the correct wings which makes you wonder why he even tried them on opposite wings against Leicester.
I’m tired Robbie. Unironically bring back Ole. His worst was a level we’d be lucky to touch a again for the next few years.
Also INEOS is running the club worse than Woodward right now.
Also INEOS is running the club worse than Woodward right now.
The squad Ten Hag left is an absolute joke.
Glaringly obvious Gary has turned on him. Picking his tactics apart multiple times this past week
He's right, we're staring at 14 points from 14 games, while he plays various players out of position in a formation that suits nobody but won't change. It's hard to think of a worse way United could be set up tbh.
There aren't many CMs on the planet that would make a 343 work in the PL. It's just a running contest these days. Almost impossible with just a 2.
It wasn’t an excuse put forward by me. I’ve been saying since the start this was a bad appointment. They should have gone for Iraola, but they wanted a “proven winner”. In a tin pot league (maybe slightly harsh) but this was eerily similar to ten Hag (winner in another tin pot league; not so harsh). Iraola has proven he is adaptable in this league and can get the best out of the players at his disposal, Amorim has proven the opposite.
The guy needs investigating. When you look at the money he paid out for some of these players also. It is truly unbelievable.
I wasn't directing it at you, sorry.
He isn't wrong and his decisions are showing a manager out of his depth
You'd need prime Kanté probably with Ugarte. But also you'd need the wing-backs to be on the same wavelength and maybe Bruno from the CAMs dropping in to make it a three when they're overrun. None of this stuff is happening.
Why are we always outnumbered in the middle of the park? It’s suicidal.
Agreed.
I don’t understand why, if he wants to persist with 3 at the back that we wouldn’t just change it to a 352 and give ourselves an extra body.
This is so boring and predictable.
Everytime I listen to him it reassures me that he'll eventually get us there, but everytime I see us play the doubts creep in as we do nothing right in games.
Either he is a conman or a victim? I can't make up my mind.
Either he is a conman or a victim? I can't make up my mind.
Why does he do things like play Bruno at RCM 
He has played on the left all season
He has played on the left all season
He's done here
Sorry, I know that. But I agree with you, his inflexibility with the system is a huge issue. I think he needs to go. Anyone can see them that Casemiro and Fernandes would get overrun today. That meant either play youngster who have legs but are untested at this level or change the system. He’s being alarmingly obdurate. It’s almost like he has already realised what a shit show he has gotten involved with and wants out.
Might aswell stick on a few youth at halftime this lot have shown they aren't up for it.....again.
Chi for hojlund
Kone for case
Chi for hojlund
Kone for case
Yeah, this bit is just fecking bizarre
The problem for me now, and it is really showing on the pitch, he seems to be so inflexible that when it comes to the team line up its like throwing darts at a dartboard.
Been saying for weeks that biggest issue with this formation is two man midfield. It won't work against majority of premier league team and will leave us open through the middle.
I'm really starting to worry.
He’s been dealt a bad hand with a lot of things, especially injuries this week.
But one thing that’s all on him is his tactics and the way he sets up a team. And that’s been an abomination since day one.
But one thing that’s all on him is his tactics and the way he sets up a team. And that’s been an abomination since day one.
I'm fine with him being given until the end of the year, to see if the summer window can change things. But frankly I wouldn't give a feck if he left tonight. There's nothing to defend, there's no hope to cling on to. We're dreadful. Every single game.
Would a prime Roberto Carlos and Cafu instantly change our play?
I can't see it tbh. I can't understand how a manager can just have one system.
Would Salah be playing a wing back if Amorim was the Liverpool manager?
He’s not even started.
A bunch of departures with no incomings in January, took over an already shit squad, he’s now facing a ridiculous injury crisis with his best player out.
Fans may not like it but it’s INEOS and Glazers that should be under the cosh here. He’s doing exactly what he told them and us he would do and he’s doing it under ridiculous circumstances.
We won't sack him during the season, but he's basically making sure that it ends in the summer. There's no progress, we're actually regressing. He's a goner
Thats why Liverpool dodged this particular bullet. The incompetence at our once great club shows no signs of abating.
In the last 16 games we have combined scored 1 goal in the first half. Bruno pen vs Brighton. Absolutely shocking!
Yep, he has done next to nothing to earn trust for the future backing
He said the structure of the team is awful and criticised the midfield several times, with Bruno ending up in the right midfield, pointing out gaps again and again.
His tactics are shite. This Spurs side are poor and we let them score a very simple goal. Overrun in midfield and our set piece play is League 2 standard.
I get the players aren’t great but they are and have been better than this. No confidence because they don’t buy into his system, which is safe to say won’t work with these players no matter how long we persist with it. 15th in the table and deep in the shit. Wrong manager for what we needed and it’s showing - releagation fodder from mid table team. Nice one.
I get the players aren’t great but they are and have been better than this. No confidence because they don’t buy into his system, which is safe to say won’t work with these players no matter how long we persist with it. 15th in the table and deep in the shit. Wrong manager for what we needed and it’s showing - releagation fodder from mid table team. Nice one.
Having to pay for Sky Sports and they go to a break every 15 minutes.
I’m not defending Amorim here but who are people wanting to see in midfield? He pretty much had to start Zirkzee and Hojlund today.
He’s been dealt a bad hand with the squad but it’s hard to keep hope that he might turn this around. Our defence isn’t better for the back three , it’s worse. The attack is just awful and the midfield nonexistent.
Did they even know that Amorim plays 3421? I am not sure. Or maybe they thought we had the players it.