(true)Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause | Not a striker
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Doesn’t make a difference in terms of PSR. It clearly has a cash flow effect.
No rush with the contract. It will get done, when it gets done.
I assume what we are aiming for is Delap and Cunha. We may sign another attacking option on top of that, but you'd be looking at some 17/18 year old kid who will likely go into the under 21's.
I think last summer was a success. All of the players we signed are useful, some, a lot more than useful. I've got no issues with Amorim. I think he's a terrific young coach.
Completely disagree. We need another attacker who has pace, can carry the ball, and has a good goal and assist contribution.
We’ve got two in the side — Amad and Fernandes and the latter is probably more of a CM in this system anyway.
Beat me to it.
So even if we offered to pay 65m at a rate of 13m per year for 5 years, wolves could book all of that 65m right now?
We absolutely do need an additional attacking option to go along with a striker. Garnacho will likely be sold, Amad will be used a lot at wing-back, Mount can't stay fit and Mainoo is a centre mid. That leaves a starter in Fernandes and a good squad option in Zirkzee.
He’s a fantastic player, however for everyone who quoted me saying no.10 is a priority… we’re skint.
The best no.9 on the market who can get you 20+ league goals has to be the priority over Rasmus in his current starter form or we are nowhere.
Where do we have the money to get that, and another 10 and some legs in midfield seeing how erikson et al are gone in the summer another wingback potentially and the consistent goalkeeper elephant in the room.
We aren’t going to get hundreds of millions for garnacho, and honestly I like our depth there with mount, amad, mainoo zirkzee, I don’t see it as the reason we are completely incapable of buying a win.
The best no.9 on the market who can get you 20+ league goals has to be the priority over Rasmus in his current starter form or we are nowhere.
Where do we have the money to get that, and another 10 and some legs in midfield seeing how erikson et al are gone in the summer another wingback potentially and the consistent goalkeeper elephant in the room.
We aren’t going to get hundreds of millions for garnacho, and honestly I like our depth there with mount, amad, mainoo zirkzee, I don’t see it as the reason we are completely incapable of buying a win.
Have a feeling he might regret signing the contract earlier in the year with that release clause. Not sure any team will be willing to go to 60M for him, but I can absolutely see Wolves holding out for it.
Rather triggger this than Delap.
Skint or not, we need creativity and goals. 62 Cunha + 30 Delap + 35 Midfielder + 1 or 2 cheap youngsters ~ 150 spent, while hopefully selling Rashford Sancho and Antony is more than doable
Getting him and Delap done for under £100 million should be the priority. Be decisive and get it done early. Then focus on sales to squeeze out another 1 later in the window.
Lots of potential sale options if Rashford, Sancho and Antony don’t bring in the cash.
We would look so much better with those two.
Lots of potential sale options if Rashford, Sancho and Antony don’t bring in the cash.
We would look so much better with those two.
Yeah, he is a dream signing for me. Very technical, fast, creative, powerful, ball carrier and top finishing. We need more of this kind of players instead of ‘’Bambi on ice’’ kind that we have in abundance. I’m pretty sure you don’t even need an elite/prolific striker with his goalscoring record in a struggling Wolves side. Imaging having to deal with him and Amad running at you at the same time…
Did you have to phrase it like that?
I've never watched him closely enough to have a serious opinion on his work rate. If it's actually fine then he seems like a good addition. If he is a bit lazy then I'd rather not. Him being nuts doesn't really concern me.
Yes. Most transfer fees have staggered payment terms. But in terms of PSR the fee is booked at the point of the transfer.
We need goals. We clearly want to sign two players who can offer this. Wing-back is not a priority at all. Amad will play there a lot, whilst Mantato and Dalot will also be options there.
Then we need to look at keeping goals out (ie Onana). It's a simple game.
Depends - did the previous contact have a release clause?
He's a lovely player but more and more I think Zirkzee could do a similar job in that 10 position.
How are we going to pay for it though? Last years window was put on the credit card, we have 89m coming out in July for players we already owe on, and currently have to sell to buy anyone.
Villa probably won’t take up the option on Rashford, in fact I think he’s coming back. But I’m going to assume Sancho moves to Chelsea after all for 20m. Antony we’d probably get 20-25m for from some la liga team, but I doubt it’ll happen on June 1st. Garnacho we could get some cash, but I imagine that’ll be a drawn out affair taking all summer as usual.
Cunha and Osimhen in turns this team into a top 4 side IMO
Even with his form I'd be surprised if we get 20-25 million for Antony.
Fair enough, wouldn’t matter to wolves then.
I was trying to be optimistic! I’m fully expecting Betis to fax over an offer with ‘8m and a twix’ written on it. Chelsea could yet turn around and send Sancho back too.
Cunha can unlock defences with his dribbling, which we desperately need. Zirkzee is a different player for me. We really need players that can beat a man and pull defenders around as this is part of the reason we can’t break teams down easily. Once they’re set and organised we have nobody that can disorganise them.
Looks quality every time I watch him his ball carrying skills are something this squad is crying out for. The fee seems pretty reasonable I think Wolves paid about 45m for him themselves
Would be an amazing signing
Would be an amazing signing
I actually think Zirkzee can offer a similar type of dribbling from deep. I do agree that we would hugely benefit from someone who is world class at beating their man but I don't think that's Cunha.
It probably never would have happened but I thought Kvaratskhelia would have been transformative for us.
Cunha would be a good signing cause he's a wonderful player and far more aggressive in goalscoring than Zirkzee. I just wonder if there are better options out there and I especially think we need to spend our funds on the best striker we can get first.
We won't sign both.
We'd be stupid not to try and go for him. He's settled in the Premier League and should be able to come in and hit the ground running. A very sensible choice.
Yeah I wanted us to move on Kvaratskhelia last season (I think it was?) when he was apparently really out of form and everyone calling him a one season wonder on here or saying he’d been figured out. I’d seen enough the previous year to see that he was a serious talent, and knew the bad form wouldn’t last. It could have been a good time to try to move on him when the market wasn’t as hot for him. I’m just glad he didn’t end up elsewhere in the PL.
I haven’t watch Cunha regularly but when I have I’ve been impressed with his ability to carry the ball. Hell even just against us in the first game of the 23/24 season, he absolutely tore us to shreds. I feel like he did the same at Atletico a few years ago too when we played them (get might have been a sub that game). Every time we’ve faced him he’s been a problem for us. In some ways I think he’s got some similar traits to Isak with being tall but deceptively good footwork and pace when carrying the ball. I do think he’d be a good option for us.
None of this is to take anything away from Zirkzee. I’m not going to lie but I couldn’t believe what I was seeing at first with him. Thought we’d made a huge mistake. But he’s made me eat my words and I absolutely love it. Just shows what confidence can do for a player! Maybe he is/will be the same type of player as Cunha but I don’t think it’ll hurt to have two players who can beat a man. Right now though I’d say Cunha is ahead in terms of threat, he’s scoring goals in a poor Wolves team.
He’s the right age too, 25 years old. More experience than we have up top and room for growth. In a better team with players like Bruno around him, he could go up another level or two. Honestly though I’d be shocked if we get a free run at him. I reckon there’ll be some big clubs in for him, so we need to act soon if we’re serious.
Personally I don’t see us going for him because I think Amorim will have questions marks over his temperament and ceiling. If we do go for him then I suspect the United tax will push the price up and we’ll walk away. Can see him going to Chelsea.
It's a release clause.
Cunha and Delap would reinvigorate our attack.
Good player but I wouldn’t spend that when we have so many other holes to fill. I’d sooner buy a midfielder that allows Bruno to get back to the 10. Plus I want us to go for Cherki.
Cunha yes. Delap would be similar to Hojlund
Agreed, I think Cunha looks much more the part. Also double the price, mind. But signing Delap is not much of an improvement.
I’ve heard about him a lot this season, even before United were linked, but haven’t watched him.
How good has he been?
Are Wolves getting relegated?
How good has he been?
Are Wolves getting relegated?