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Manchester United 0:2 West Ham United

Old Trafford

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Sun, 11 May 2025 @ 2:15pm BST
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  • Lucky McLuckerson

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    Date: Sunday, May 11 2025

    Kickoff Time: 1415 Hrs BST
    Venue: Old Trafford, Manchester

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    League Form Guide

    15. Manchester United: DLLDL
    17. West Ham: DLDLD


    Previous League Meetings


    West Ham 2—1 Manchester United

    Manchester United 3—0 West Ham

    West Ham 2—0 Manchester United

    West Ham 1—0 Manchester United

    Manchester United 1—0 West Ham


    All-Time League Record

    Manchester United wins: 65
    West Ham wins: 43
    Draws: 29


    Pre-Match Pressers

    Rubén Amorim




    Graham Potter





    Team News

    Manchester United

    Ayden Heaven, Lisandro Martínez, Matthijs de Ligt, Toby Collyer, Joshua Zirkzee and Diogo Dalot ruled out.

    West Ham

    Michail Antonio and Crysencio Summerville ruled out. Edson Álvarez doubtful.


    Know The Opposition

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    West Ham United Football Club (nicknamed The Irons, The Hammers, and The Academy of Football) are a professional football club based in Upton Park, East London. They were founded in 1895 by foreman and local league referee Dave Taylor and owner Arnold Hills as Thames Ironworks F.C. - a strictly amateur football club with a team featuring a number of works employees. During the summer of 1898, Thames Ironworks F.C. became a professional outfit for the first time, to match their new status as members of the Southern League Second Division, and were promoted to the First Division at the first attempt following a decision to enlarge the top division of the Southern League to 19 teams. After growing disputes over the running and financing of the club in June 1900, Thames Ironworks F.C. resigned from the Southern League and were officially wound up. On 5 July 1900 they reformed under the new name of West Ham United and accepted an offer of the Southern League place left vacant by Thames Ironworks.

    West Ham's most successful period started with the appointment of Ron Greenwood in 1961 - leading to FA Cup, League Cup and Cup Winners' Cup titles - with youth team graduates Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst and Martin Peters at the forefront. Their nickname The Academy of Football pays homage to the club's proud tradition in English football for playing entertaining, attacking football - and the success of the club in coaching future greats - which includes that aforementioned trio of World Cup winners, Trevor Brooking, Paul Ince, Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard, Jermaine Defoe and Michael Carrick. West Ham's most prominent rivals are local clubs Millwall (Dockers derby - one of the longest-standing and most bitter in English football), Chelsea (East versus West London rivalry), and Tottenham Hotspur (East versus North London derby). They played their home games at the now demolished Boleyn Ground (often referred to as Upton Park) from 1904 to 2016, and moved to the London Olympic Stadium at the start of the 2016/ 2017 League season.


    Referee

    Jarred Gillett.


    Familiar Faces

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    Now about getting match sharpness and getting some confidence before the final. Would still rest a few of those who are fine confidence wise like Mazraoui, Case and Bruno especially.

    Onana
    Yoro Maguire Shaw
    Dorgu Ugarte Mainoo Amass
    Amad Mount
    Hojlund​
     
    Now about getting match sharpness and getting some confidence before the final. Would still rest a few of those who are fine confidence wise like Mazraoui, Case and Bruno especially.

    Onana
    Yoro Maguire Shaw
    Dorgu Ugarte Mainoo Amass
    Amad Mount
    Hojlund​
    Do we have to play Hojlund?? In the final I mean? He’s so wank
     
    Now about getting match sharpness and getting some confidence before the final. Would still rest a few of those who are fine confidence wise like Mazraoui, Case and Bruno especially.

    Onana
    Yoro Maguire Shaw
    Dorgu Ugarte Mainoo Amass
    Amad Mount
    Hojlund​
    I’d keep Shaw, Mount and Amad on the bench and give them 20/30mins again. They are all too important this close to the final.
     
    I’d keep Shaw, Mount and Amad on the bench and give them 20/30mins again. They are all too important this close to the final.
    They also need game time, so this would be the only chance to do it with the final mid week after the following game. They need the rhythm and load in their legs
     
    Now about getting match sharpness and getting some confidence before the final. Would still rest a few of those who are fine confidence wise like Mazraoui, Case and Bruno especially.

    Onana
    Yoro Maguire Shaw
    Dorgu Ugarte Mainoo Amass
    Amad Mount
    Hojlund​
    Hojlund has to be rested after 90 minutes tonight. I hope you’re right about Amad, Mount, Shaw and Mainoo. They should all be looking at 60 minutes or more.

    If we’re going to start them in the final, Amad and Shaw especially, we need to know they can play for at least an hour.

    It’ll probably depend on what Amorim plans to do tactically in the final. He probably already has a rough 11 in mind and will rotate according to that.
     
    Start Shaw, Amad, Mainoo, Mount. Possibly Obi as well. We're so poor in league and don't think we'll beat Chelsea or Villa so a win here would feel good for a change.
     
    We should probably only field about 7 or 8 players in this one.
     
    Onana

    Dorgu
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Fredricson
    Amass

    Mainoo
    Ugarte

    Garnacho
    Mount

    Obi
     
    Honestly couldn’t care less. The next two games are about getting players fit and sharp for the final.

    Shaw/Amad/Mount/Mainoo could all do with starts and manage everyone else’s minutes. I’d like to see Shaw at LWB.

    Onana
    Mazraoui - Maguire - Yoro
    Dorgu - Mainoo - Ugarte - Shaw
    Amad - Chido - Mount​
     
    I'd keep playing Onana for the remaining four matches.

    Again, hope Kamason gets a chance.
     
    Probably the last chance to win a Premier League game this season? Villa and Chelsea to play after this both pushing for a Champions league spot so their need will be greater.
     
    Eriksen, Obi, Amass, Lindelof, Mainoo to all start. The final is less than two weeks away. No injuries please!
     
    I’d keep Shaw, Mount and Amad on the bench and give them 20/30mins again. They are all too important this close to the final.
    They need match fitness and sharpness. The Spurs game will be fast, high octane stuff and if a player isn’t prepped for that, they will be off the pace, primed for injury or both.
     
    They need match fitness and sharpness. The Spurs game will be fast, high octane stuff and if a player isn’t prepped for that, they will be off the pace, primed for injury or both.
    Assuming they even make it there if we give them too many minutes too soon as we’ve done countless times in the past. It’s a tough call. Either way I wouldn’t give them the full 90.
     
    Just rest the XI who will play until the final.

    Give some of them 20-30 minutes against Chelsea to get match fit, but I would like complete rotation on Sunday and against Chelsea.

    This is the team I would play for the next two PL games and would rest all the other players and give the likes of Hojlund, Garnacho some minutes to keep the pace but nothing more.

    -------------------------------------------------Bayindir---------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------Fredricson--------Lindelof------------Shaw------------------------------
    Kamason---------------------Mainoo-------------Eriksen------------------------------Amass
    ----------------------------------------Amad-----------Mount-------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------Obi--------------------------------------------------------
     
    Call me crazy, but we should try to win this game. Keep the good vibes going and move up the table a bit. More important to do the heavy rotation against Chelsea next week.

    I'd rather line up relatively strong and then take key players off after 60 minutes, than going full balls to the wall with the youth players from the start.
     
    —————-tom heaton—————

    —Fredrickson—Lindelof—heaven—

    ————mainoo—Kone—————-

    ——amad—————————-amass—

    —————Eriksen—-fletcher————

    ———————Chido————————
     
    Every time Mount comes on I worry about him. Especially after his performance last night now.
     
    Onana
    Fredricson Maguire Lindelof
    Amad Ugarte Mainoo Shaw
    Mount Hojlund Garnacho

    Take Amad off after 60 Mins
    No Bruno, Maz and Yoro please.
    Obi on as a sub
    Dorgu have been playing a lot, give him a rest, introduce Mantanto probably.
     
    Onana
    Mazraoui Maguire Yoro
    Dorgu Casemiro Bruno Shaw
    Amad Mount
    Hojlund​

    I think it's more important for us to beat West Ham than Chelsea or Villa. I know there isn't a huge difference between 13-17 but I'd rather us block the possibility of us being 17th by beating West Ham if we can. The Europa League final isn't for nearly two weeks (and even after this game it's way more than a week to recover). I want to see this line-up as I think it could potentially be the starting XI against Spurs - but we need to get minutes in for Shaw, Amad, and Mount if that's the case. Would be great if they could all get 60-70 here and then potentially come off the bench against Chelsea for a bit more game time if needed.

    We can sub on Ugarte, Mainoo, Garnacho, and Lindelof as the other players who obviously have a chance of starting the final. Then they can probably start the Chelsea game too with the youth players and Eriksen.

    Vs. Chelsea it could be something like:

    Bayindir
    Lindelof Evans Fredricson
    Ogunneye Ugarte Eriksen Amass
    Mainoo Garnacho
    Obi​

    Probably very much wishful thinking with the latter, as I don't think Ruben wants to risk getting beat 7-0, but I think that's the way to rest the most for the final considering injuries to Heaven, De Ligt, Martinez, Dalot, Collyer, and Zirkzee.
     
    Are we going to do that thing again where everyone says it doesn't matter play the kids, then meltdown and blame the formation when we lose? Good chance I reckon

    Play the kids, rest Amad and Mount and give them sub minutes again.
     
    Are we going to do that thing again where everyone says it doesn't matter play the kids, then meltdown and blame the formation when we lose? Good chance I reckon

    Play the kids, rest Amad and Mount and give them sub minutes again.
    What we aren't allowed to complain about matches that don't count anymore and are basically friendlies??? These matches are showing us what we can expect in the future, specially when we are resting our players and playing players together that rarely play together in a formation thats new to most of them. So yes we(they) are probably going to do that kind of complaining yes..
     
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    Call me crazy, but we should try to win this game. Keep the good vibes going and move up the table a bit. More important to do the heavy rotation against Chelsea next week.

    I'd rather line up relatively strong and then take key players off after 60 minutes, than going full balls to the wall with the youth players from the start.
    I agree, who needs rest should be rested, but no need to rest every starter, the EL final is in 2 weeks and a lot can happen on the training pitch as well in the mean time.
     
    The last genuinely winnable game of the domestic campaign, but the need to wrap up Mazraoui, Maguire, Yoro, Casemiro, Bruno and Amad can’t be downplayed…but they also need to retain some form and game fitness going into the final.

    It’s a tough job being a manager and balancing the need to keep them fit along with their ability to play as well as possible in the big game.
     
    Onana
    Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
    Kamason/Dorgu - Bruno - Mainoo - Amass
    Amad - Mount
    Hojlund

    Sub off: Shaw, Amad, Mount, Bruno and Hojlund
    Sub on: Yoro, Garnacho, Casemiro, Ugarte and Obi
     
    It's absolutely vital that Amad, Shaw, and Mount don't pick up any knocks between now and the final.

    I'd be hesitant giving any of them more than one half in this, if even.
     
    Great to see that Mason is now valued as a contributing cog in our team.
    Hope it stays that way :rolleyes:
     
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Score Predictions

63,17,22
  • Man Utd win
  • West Ham win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 35% Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
  • 16% Man Utd 1:1 West Ham
  • 12% Man Utd 2:0 West Ham
  • 5% Man Utd 0:1 West Ham
  • 5% Man Utd 0:2 West Ham
  • 5% Man Utd 2:2 West Ham
  • 5% Man Utd 1:0 West Ham
  • 5% Man Utd 3:1 West Ham
  • 4% Man Utd 1:2 West Ham
  • 3% Man Utd 3:0 West Ham
  • 2% Man Utd 1:3 West Ham
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 West Ham
  • 1% Man Utd 3:2 West Ham
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 West Ham
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 West Ham
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