But He is being himself by possessing a better variety of finishing than Ruud..
I agree with you though...Ferguson is back in the Hunt
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I agree with you though...Rictr, what would you say Huntelaar's main weaknesses are having seen him play a few times?
His pace is not searing.
Then he tends to wait a bit too much for the ball at times. Rather than joining in the build up play. When he has the intelligence and the energy to really put in some deadly work rate around the 18. A similar weakness to Anelka in his Arsenal days . A change of club will get that out of him I believe. Because I think it's because his current team is built around him.
Interesting points. If he's a poacher type of player do you think dropping back from the penalty box to get more involved in build up play would weaken his game much?
Not really. Because as Ruud has proved and people like Klinsmann before him. A poacher can be involved in play and still poach. It will actually make him more elusive and make it easier for him to be picked out for scoring opportunities. I remember for us when Ruud was more mobile and waited in the box less...he was far more productive for us individually and for our team. But when he just stated to wait for the ball it was easy to mark him out. the way player like Owen get marked you of games. I think Huntelaar can is similar to Ruud in that sense. When he sits he is a sitting duck.
If Huntelaar ever joins United, can S.A.F. mould him into some kind of player like Ole, who uses intelligence runs to outwit the opponents?
I disagree. Ruud was scoring goals for fun at all levels being CL, at international level and with PSV, so in a certian way his ability in scoring goals was proven in all fronts. He was also blessed in coming into a team which system was going to be built around his strengths, same as what he had at PSV. Its certianly not the case with Huntelaar who will come into a system which is already lead by two world class players and which characteristics are totally different to his. Considering Tevez and Rooney's form + if Saha returns to his former glory then I wouldnt exclude the probability that Huntelaar would end up 4th striker.
Honestly I wouldnt mind having Huntelaar into the team. While I do rate our forward line, I feel that we lack of that diversity upfront which, at the end of the day, saved our arse during the treble campaign. It wouldnt do us any bad to have a natural goal poacher in the team and Huntelaar is certianly one of the best in that area.
I believe so.
That makes perfect sense. My deepest darkest wish is that next summer we let Saha go. Then bring in Berbatov & Klass.
I'd have to argue that ruud was quite a risk considering he had just come back from an extremely serious injury
I doubt that we will get them both. We dont need 4 world class articles upfront.
It will be Manucho and Klass or Berbatov
That is why I said it's a dream. I too see us only getting one. Because Manucho, Dong and Campbell will also get their chance next year. I hope if it is one it is the Bulgarian though..with Klaas going to Spain and not going to Chelsea
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or Saha and one between Klass and Berbatov.
Its not easy to get rid of an injury prone player.
Yes we can. We can pay out his contract and release him...
Saha + Manucho = one player for next season. As his senior Saha will get more games (when fit) and when he isnt, I'd imagine Manucho will provide us with a player of a similar style to fill in for us. Besides it might take him a year to adapt to England and he'll just be happy to be at the club and getting a few games. He might even be grooomed to take over from Saha in a year or two and that time frame gives him the chance to improve to that level.
So for me its :
Rooney, Tevez, + 1 (Whoever is available and the best deal of Berbatov, Hunterlaar and Benzema)
So for me its :
Rooney, Tevez, + 1 (Whoever is available and the best deal of Berbatov, Hunterlaar and Benzema)
Would it be worth doing so? I mean if I remember things well, paying out his contract would mean giving him all the salaries that he would have earned if he had remained with us. If thats the case then its better keep him at OT rather then sending him away.
Yes. If we can't get market for him.
Not really. He is currently just filling up squad space while doing next to nothing. If this contiues till the summer. We have to get rid. At all costs.
7 pages on Klass, have we made an approach on him yet? or our we still awaiting on Berbatov
agreed!!
...but you're not sure though!Would you be sure if you once thought James Beattie a good signing?agreed!!
Only thing i really don t like is , he has this nasty habit swinging his elbows in a way that makes Zlatan jealous.
he must have gone to Bergkamp's school of dirty football.
Even if he plays 15 games a year it would justify not to give him a free transfer and pay him on full for not playing with us. What if he goes to Chelsea and succeed there?
Mate. No big club would pick up Saha as he is now. Even if they did. So what? We can't keep him around forever just for others not to get their hands on him. We have to think about his career too. Why keep him when it's going no where for him at OT? At least his done enough for us for us to give him that much..
Agreed
Follow Ajax quite abit and I think Huntelaar is the Asda / Wal-Mart version of Torres.
I don't think he is anything special
I don't think he is anything special
If we have to pay him in full, no matter what happens then it would be better to let him rot in the reserves where he can add quality cover to our forward line when available rather then send him away to a club where he may come back haunting us.
i think klaas would be an exelent signing for our scot. hopefully in the summer we might be able to tempt him.
I don't get it, are you Jake or Bazza?
Fair enough. It all depends on what one prefers. I prefer getting rid of dead wood. Not putting them in the reserves to keep them form punishing us. Saha is not quite dead wood yet though. So I hope he revives his form soon..
Maybe Jake by day and Bazza by night?
Re. Huntelaar; I've seen some clips of him and I don't really know if he's got what it takes in terms of link up play to fit into our current system..
I prefer to get rid of the dead wood too but I wouldnt do that if it means that first you have to shoot to my leg.
AS I said it depends what you prefer. For me keeping dead wood. For fear of other clubs getting them and reviving them is detrimental.
AS I said it depends what you prefer. For me keeping dead wood. For fear of other clubs getting them and reviving them is detrimental. You view is different. Which is okay.
To be fair at one point he seemed to have something about him...decent pace, strong physical, long range strike, good headerererer of the ball.Would you be sure if you once thought James Beattie a good signing?
That's true. But what happened to him at Everton is still a mystery. He was signed injured I think. Returned more muscular and bulked up. And was never the same player again.....
I hate his teeth.
As a boss, I lead people every day. My experience is if you let people rot, team spirit suffers. Also, you never know what people talk about when you're not there.
Especially if you're in competitive business - meaning you treat everybody equally : "come on lads, put all your effort in this, and the best players of you plays" - then it's bloody important to be fair. If a person works hard and isn't rewarded, that gets noticed too. Sooner or later that person will ask himself : why should I bother ? The worst thing is, other persons notice it too.
My opinion is unload players who don't play. That's also a way of appreciating people's talents: You acknowledge that they are good players and want to play.
Football, or work, isn't slavery. You should never stop a person who only try to live the dream to the best of their ability. That's what everyone wants, so fair enough.