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I've watched this guy all season long and with the exception of early '08, he's been sensational. I believe he's going to be the future, along with other youngsters like Wellbeck/Lennon/Hart/Walcott, in the England national squad. If we're looking for some decent youngsters to buy up front, why not buy another future English superstar? We've done it before, buying great young talent from mid table clubs, and been successful at it so why shouldn't we put in a bid for him?

How much would the fee run to buy him I wonder?? 10m?? Why not 8m and Saha?? I'd be fine with that.
 

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He is superb. Add him to the team in the summer and I am satisfied.
 

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I think he's average, nothing special.
Villa is about the right level for him, don't think he can make it on the European stage.
 
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Very decent young striker. If we were to add him to our ranks I would be pleased. You never know, he might be the young striker Fergie is looking at. Although I feel that Campbell/Welbeck can become as good as him if given the opportunity.
 

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He is superb. Add him to the team in the summer and I am satisfied.
I would take him anyday, he is young, cheap, talented and english.
He is superb. I would love to swoop in and get him to OT. With SAF/Carlos developing him I think he'd become a superstar in Europe. Ronnie was very good and a bit rough around the edges when he got here. Look at what they've done developing his skills and turning him into the top player in the world that he is now, he even gives much of his credit becoming the player he is now to the coaching of SAF and Carlos Q.

Ashley Young is not needed at OT because we are somewhat thick with talent, especially at winger. But, he's got the determination and skill to be very talented as well.

We need to keep bringing in young English talent to keep the strength we've enjoyed regularly at United. You see what not having top English talent has done to Le Arse! They are a virtual United nations and will not amount to much until they bring back great young English players, other than Wellbeck. One English starter(future starter really.) is not enough, IMO.


I think he's average, nothing special.
Villa is about the right level for him, don't think he can make it on the European stage.
You might be alone in that opinion. He's much better than just average.
 

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average may be a bit harsh. i think he's just above average.

has pace to burn, but i think he'd struggle to make an impression against a top-class defence. he'll need to add more to his locker.
I think a few years with SAF and Carlos would do the trick. If not, I bet he'll still be above average or good. Then we could package him for another young talent and a bit of cash of it doesn't work out at planned. But, given the coaching we've got at United, I seriously doubt that would happen.
 

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Where did you get the conclusion that Wellbeck is among the top English talent? He hasn't done anything to prove that so far, to be completely honest.

You cannot give him such title without even seeing him play professional football. Different case with Agbonlahor, Lennon and Hart who have already proven themselves. Wellbeck could well turn out to be another Daniel Nardiello or Aaron Burns.
 

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How weird, I was going to start a thread in the football forum, saying how I think him, and Young, can be the future of English football.

Anyway, I really like him, and Young (who I think is better of the two) I think he has all the qualities needed to succeed at a big club, but don't see us going for him, if anyone does, it'll be Liverpool or Arsenal IMO.
 

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How weird, I was going to start a thread in the football forum, saying how I think him, and Young, can be the future of English football.

Anyway, I really like him, and Young (who I think is better of the two) I think he has all the qualities needed to succeed at a big club, but don't see us going for him, if anyone does, it'll be Liverpool or Arsenal IMO.
Personally i rate Young in the same group as Lennon, Wright-Phillips etc.
Lots of potential, not sure if it will be fulfilled.
 

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Where did you get the conclusion that Wellbeck is among the top English talent? He hasn't done anything to prove that so far, to be completely honest.

You cannot give him such title without even seeing him play professional football. Different case with Agbonlahor, Lennon and Hart who have already proven themselves. Wellbeck could well turn out to be another Daniel Nardiello or Aaron Burns.
Welbeck is a special player. you only have to see him play to realise this. you're right, he hasn't proven anything yet, but he is clearly extremely talented, which is why SAF insists he train with the first team.

as for Agbonlahor, it might be wise to reserve judgment. i remember people here were all wanking themselves silly over Reo Coker after his first season with WHU in the Prem. wanted him here at all costs.
 

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He is superb. I would love to swoop in and get him to OT. With SAF/Carlos developing him I think he'd become a superstar in Europe. Ronnie was very good and a bit rough around the edges when he got here. Look at what they've done developing his skills and turning him into the top player in the world that he is now, he even gives much of his credit becoming the player he is now to the coaching of SAF and Carlos Q.
Sorry but how can you compare us bringing in Ronaldo to bringing in a Agbonlahor, and hope we can nuture Agbonlahor the same way we did with Ronnie. Totally different on talent level alone, simply put..we can only turn a good player into a world class player if they are extremely talented.
Ronaldo has always had the potential to be a world class player, Agbonlahor looks like a good player but theres really nothing special about him, and to play for united, you need to be special. Apart from his pace and him being english, theres nothing to his game that stands out, he'll be expensive anyway seeing as he's english. I don't see what he has over Campbell apart from having the physical stature to play in the premier league which can be worked on, and certainly dosent look as talented as Welbeck.
 

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Personally i rate Young in the same group as Lennon, Wright-Phillips etc.
Lots of potential, not sure if it will be fulfilled.
I think, if Young goes to the right club, with the right manager, or maybe even stays at Villa, he has the talent to be a real star for England, certainly better than SWP and Lennon. Well, IMO anyway.
 

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Sorry but how can you compare us bringing in Ronaldo to bringing in a Agbonlahor, and hope we can nuture Agbonlahor the same way we did with Ronnie. Totally different on talent level alone, simply put..we can only turn a good player into a world class player if they are extremely talented.
To be fair not everyone knew that much about Ronaldos talent all he had was pace and party tricks. Its not like he was a proven world class talent when we bought him. Agbonlahor is a proven premiership performer at this point, Ronaldo was not.
 

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He is superb. I would love to swoop in and get him to OT. With SAF/Carlos developing him I think he'd become a superstar in Europe. Ronnie was very good and a bit rough around the edges when he got here. Look at what they've done developing his skills and turning him into the top player in the world that he is now, he even gives much of his credit becoming the player he is now to the coaching of SAF and Carlos Q.

Ashley Young is not needed at OT because we are somewhat thick with talent, especially at winger. But, he's got the determination and skill to be very talented as well.

We need to keep bringing in young English talent to keep the strength we've enjoyed regularly at United. You see what not having top English talent has done to Le Arse! They are a virtual United nations and will not amount to much until they bring back great young English players, other than Wellbeck. One English starter(future starter really.) is not enough, IMO.




You might be alone in that opinion. He's much better than just average.
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I don't rate Agbonlahor much, didn't he recently score his first goal in the calender year? Young looks really good though
 

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Agbonahor has an amazing goal scoring record. 10 goals this season, 10 goals last season and 1 goal the season before. In 2 years time he would have scored (more or less) the amount of goals Ronaldo had scored throughout this season.

On the other hand he does have pace

 

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Agbonlahor is good. Ashley Young is better.

Can someone link me to that site with the season's stats for each individual player? I'd love to see Young Vs. Bentley.
 

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To be fair not everyone knew that much about Ronaldos talent all he had was pace and party tricks. Its not like he was a proven world class talent when we bought him. Agbonlahor is a proven premiership performer at this point, Ronaldo was not.
No. Ronaldo ran circles around us when we played that friendly against sporting. Ronaldo is simply leagues above Agbonlahor in terms of pure natural talent, he lacked end product but the potential was definitely there for all to see.
 

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Agbonlahor is good. Ashley Young is better.

Can someone link me to that site with the season's stats for each individual player? I'd love to see Young Vs. Bentley.
Young

Games played: 33
Goals scored: 5
Assists: 16

Bentley

Games played: 34
Goals scored: 6
Assists: 10
 

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I rate agbonlohor, but I think what we need now is a mobile striker who can hold the line and who will START alongside rooney instead of sit on the bench. I don't really like the tevez-rooney partnership as it inhibits rooney's potential.
 

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I rate agbonlohor, but I think what we need now is a mobile striker who can hold the line and who will START alongside rooney instead of sit on the bench. I don't really like the tevez-rooney partnership as it inhibits rooney's potential.
I also rate Agbonlohor but Benzema is the man - big, strong, deadly finisher and never gives the ball away. If we are looking for instant impact he's the ideal signing. I'd rather Campbell and Welbeck get a chance than signing Agbonlohor however, we let Rossi, Healy and Ebanks-Blake go too easily, time we gave the youngsters a proper crack of the whip.
 

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I would take him anyday, he is young, cheap, talented and english.
There is no such thing as a young, talented English player who comes cheaply. Generally speaking, for the same amount of talent, you pay about twice as much if the player in question is English.
 

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Agbonahor is a striker that cant score goals. In few words its like having a goalkeeper that cant save a ball or a defender that cant defend. Apart from that he is good.....and he does have pace to burn. Cough bellion Cough.

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Agbonahor has an amazing goal scoring record. 10 goals this season, 10 goals last season and 1 goal the season before. In 2 years time he would have scored (more or less) the amount of goals Ronaldo had scored throughout this season.
That's stupid logic, compare everone's record to Ronaldo's and it turns out that not even one player in the entire world is good enough to play for United. It must be the saddest thing I've read this month.

10 goals a season is never a bad record for a young striker/winger.
 

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decent player with loads of potential and would be quite good in a united shirt, pace is a valuable asset in the premiership. personally i think he would be better off staying with villa for a couple more years and continuing his development by playing first team football at a good level week in week out. could be ready for a big move in the next couple of years though if his progress continues.
 

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That's stupid logic, compare everone's record to Ronaldo's and it turns out that not even one player in the entire world is good enough to play for United. It must be the saddest thing I've read this month.

10 goals a season is never a bad record for a young striker/winger.
So according to you 10 goals in 37 matches is not a bad record for a 21 yr old striker who had been playing regular EPL football for the past 3 years? Are you on drugs or what? FFS even players like Yakubu had been able to score goals at his age, let alone true talent like Owen or Rooney.

Mind I wouldnt mind him if we got him for 3 - 4 m. Ok he is hopeless as a striker but if well trained, his pace may do some damage on the flank, turning him into the next Ji Sung Park . Stating that spending more then 3 - 4m on an average striker that cannot score is purely madness.


 

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decent player with loads of potential and would be quite good in a united shirt, pace is a valuable asset in the premiership. personally i think he would be better off staying with villa for a couple more years and continuing his development by playing first team football at a good level week in week out. could be ready for a big move in the next couple of years though if his progress continues.
We should get Bellion then. Same scoring ability and much cheaper.
 

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So according to you 10 goals in 37 matches is not a bad record for a 21 yr old striker who had been playing regular EPL football for the past 3 years? Are you on drugs or what? FFS even players like Yakubu had been able to score goals at his age, let alone true talent like Owen or Rooney.
Playing for Villa where he is very often wide right in only his second season at this level, 10 goals is an excellent record. I expect it's around as many as Rooney scored in his second season at Everton.

Agbonlahor is a pretty decent striker. He's not just quick, he's also very strong and good in the air. I'd love him as 3rd choice striker, with the option of playing him in a front three, however he won't come cheap. There are better options for the £10+ mil we'd have to pay for him.
 

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We all agree a new striker is needed, and benz fits the bill as he is both strong, pacey and has loads of skill. Agbonlahor doesn't have the same technical abilities and would just be our version of hesky