Possibly, in the Daily Mail today, apparently because he's English.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Shawcross to Liverpool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
He's Welsh, isn't he?
May see teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool do this more often in the coming seasons. Just to prepare for the whole 6+5 rule.
We should be ok though mind you
We should be ok though mind you
I'd say the 6+5 thing is quite unlikely.
He's English now is he? He is a friend of a friend, and was always considered to be Welsh.
Strange move on behalf of Liverpool, if true. We wouldn't have let him go if we thought anything of him.
This is typical of Rafa.
Strange move on behalf of Liverpool, if true. We wouldn't have let him go if we thought anything of him.
This is typical of Rafa.
Can't remember. The Mail said he was English, so I repeated it. I lost interest the moment we sold him to Stoke.
He played for the Wales Under-15s, but the England Under-21s.
He grew up in Buckley, North Wales, to Welsh parents. The problem is that the nearest hospital to that area of N Wales is Chester, so technically everyone is English, even though they're not. It's resulted in Wales losing some good footballers over the years, Michael Owen being one of them (he didn't live in England up until his move to Newcastle).
He probably just buying players from the likes of Portsmouth and Stoke so he can complain that he can't go shopping at Real Madrid and Barcelona and Inter and Bayern, like everyone else does
We've let go of talented players in the past (even if it was rarely), I think he's going there as mainly a squad player and he'll be cheap, so not a bad deal all round.
How good is he? Has anyone been following him properly at Stoke? I've caught glimpses, and he seems like he's playing at his level to be honest. Might be a fish out of water at the scousers, especially if we let him go as well!
Aye, I suppose he could make a good squad player for them. I really can't see him developing into a first choice player for them, mind.
Really? Where did he go to school etc?
What the feck?
Because we - rarely - let talented players go and you've decide he's cheap (despite no mention of a price) this is suddenly a good move by Liverpool? Bizarre logic.
For the record, name one British/Irish youngster we've released, ever, who turned out good enough for a title-winning team?
A village called Hawarden in the Deeside area of North Wales. He played for the same youth team as Gary Speed and Ian Rush. He still lives nearby in a place called Ewloe, where he has a mansion and a street not far away which he bought up for his family.
There was a saying that Wales gave England Michael Owen and England gave Wales Ryan Giggs (mostly grew up in England). I think Wales got the better end of the deal.
which is why Liverpool won't win the title.
Good point. Even former United players who end up at mid-table sides usually hung around into their early 20s (Eagles, Richardson etc). It would be very rare for someone we let go at the age of 18-20 to make it at a club like Liverpool.
He's not very good, even Rafa won't pay more than a couple of million for him (at max). He's being bought in because: 1.He's English (or can qualify as being English) and 2.To be a squad player.
If 6+5 does come in, he'll be another that adds to the numbers. All things considered I'd say it's a good move.
John Giles.
wasnt a youngster
I cant believe such a well known ex-star of ours is betraying us like this, i was a huge fan of his, i wont forget this Bryan Shawcross!
The Daily Mail don't understand the difference between English and British
David Platt
How old was he, I thought he was in his very early twenties. the problem was we just didnt relise what we had with Giles.
Im reckon theres at least 2 others ( after Platt)
Im sure MUJAC will confirm.
Im sure MUJAC will confirm.
24 when he joined Leeds, been with United since 17
He dreamt about being United captain.
Liverpool rejected by Shawcross would be funny.
Liverpool rejected by Shawcross would be funny.
Peter Beardsley though we only had him for a year
I think Sir Matt did. But Giles tells the story that he knocked on Sir Matts door one day and demanded more money. He said Leeds were offering him more. Sir Matt stood firm and Giles believed the boss did not really believe any player would walk away from United. But he was a stubborn little git and he did
My mistake.
The age of logic has not yet hit the caf.
Wrexham Maelor is not that much further and it would be in the correct district.
He's not that good really. I hope Liverpool buy him.
Jonathan greening
Good old manuel... a few months ago it was Aguerro, Villa and Ribery, now it seems to be Aquilani, Johnson and Shawcross.
I meant he's not good enough to be a first team player but as a squad player and someone to make up the numbers in the 6+5 rule; he's good enough. If they manage to get him for a few million then it's a good deal.
He scored a few goals for Stoke last season- he looked a decent player- good luck to him.