VanNistelrater
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Who would disagree with this statement from yesterdays Observor?
Read it yesterday, agree with it totally.VanNistlerater said:Who would disagree with this statement from yesterdays Observor?
Bastard! Was just going to do that, never mind, think im running out of space anyway.A1Dan said:Brilliantly put. So much so, that I'm going to shamelessly nick it for my location...
I did it after posting on this thread for the first time.VanNistlerater said:Bastard! Was just going to do that, never mind, think im running out of space anyway.
You still got the quote wrong though
I think not (I did drop the "though" as it makes little sense out of context)VanNistlerater said:You still got the quote wrong though
Liar I did it firstMozza said:I did it after posting on this thread for the first time.
Better question is what I discussed with my mate on Saturday - if you were a fullback, who'd you rather play against: Beckham or Ronaldo...?JJ_Batchelor said:Can the same be said of Thierry Henry?
Henry is a good player but does he excite you like Crisitano?
Who would you rather pay to watch?
Incorrect or not I did it first, nah nah nah nah nah.A1Dan said:Liar I did it first
And you've used Steve's incorrect version
Obvious, defenders have a harder time defending against runners, Ron every time.An Extremely Boring Man said:Better question is what I discussed with my mate on Saturday - if you were a fullback, who'd you rather play against: Beckham or Ronaldo...?
This one's a no brainer....I would feign injury and declare myself unfit.An Extremely Boring Man said:Better question is what I discussed with my mate on Saturday - if you were a fullback, who'd you rather play against: Beckham or Ronaldo...?
Without doubt Henry is a more polished footballer.....more years.JJ_Batchelor said:Can the same be said of Thierry Henry?
Henry is a good player but does he excite you like Crisitano?
Who would you rather pay to watch?
> that's how funny this fuss over Ronaldo is, that forces ME to use these silly smilies just to convey how amused I am by the hyperbole spewing out about this chap.Zinedine Zidane and Thierry Henry aside it is hard to think of a contemporary so capable of mesmerising a crowd.
Where has anyone said that?Re_Deus said:and all of a sudden he's the greatest player that's ever lived.
Re_Deus said:He's not even the most 'mesmerising' Portguese player around. Figo and Rui Costa have been doing it for years. What about the Brazillians? There's probably loads in the Brazillian league doing what Ronaldo does yet we never hear about them (Diego and Robinho, for example). The same goes for Argentine players. Ronaldo, Rivaldo (when he's fit), Ronaldinho all are tremendous at exciting the crowd. What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have? Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years. Schevchenko, Totti, Kaka, Del Piero, from Italy, and a host of talented Dutch players such as Van der Vaart, Wesley Snieder and Robben hardly compare unfavourably with Ronaldo.
There's probably dozens, literally dozens more around the various leagues in Europe and the world that 'mesmerise' football audiences. Just because they don't have a venue like Old Trafford or Highbury to show off their talents doesn't mean they should be ignored, as Samuel so brazenly and stupidly has done.
Re_Deus said:He's not even the most 'mesmerising' Portguese player around. Figo and Rui Costa have been doing it for years. What about the Brazillians? There's probably loads in the Brazillian league doing what Ronaldo does yet we never hear about them (Diego and Robinho, for example). The same goes for Argentine players. Ronaldo, Rivaldo (when he's fit), Ronaldinho all are tremendous at exciting the crowd. What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have? Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years. Schevchenko, Totti, Kaka, Del Piero, from Italy, and a host of talented Dutch players such as Van der Vaart, Wesley Snieder and Robben hardly compare unfavourably with Ronaldo.
There's probably dozens, literally dozens more around the various leagues in Europe and the world that 'mesmerise' football audiences. Just because they don't have a venue like Old Trafford or Highbury to show off their talents doesn't mean they should be ignored, as Samuel so brazenly and stupidly has done.
Seriously - you'd almost rate Giggs in amongst the ranks of untouchable London based players Duff and Pires, and the legendary world beater Kewell?Re_Deus said:What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have? Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years.
No they haven't.Re_Deus said:He's not even the most 'mesmerising' Portguese player around. Figo and Rui Costa have been doing it for years.
Robinho is famous for once doing seven stepovers before leaving the defender on his arse - something that Ronaldo will likely do before his career in England is over.Re_Deus said:What about the Brazillians? There's probably loads in the Brazillian league doing what Ronaldo does yet we never hear about them (Diego and Robinho, for example).
Are they from Argentina?Re_Deus said:The same goes for Argentine players. Ronaldo, Rivaldo (when he's fit), Ronaldinho all are tremendous at exciting the crowd.
Incredible close ball control - he of all United players bears comparison to George Best in that respect.Re_Deus said:What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have?
Read once more - incredible close ball controlRe_Deus said:Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years. Schevchenko, Totti, Kaka, Del Piero, from Italy, and a host of talented Dutch players such as Van der Vaart, Wesley Snieder and Robben hardly compare unfavourably with Ronaldo.
Let's see you name your 'dozens'Re_Deus said:There's probably dozens, literally dozens more around the various leagues in Europe and the world that 'mesmerise' football audiences. Just because they don't have a venue like Old Trafford or Highbury to show off their talents doesn't mean they should be ignored, as Samuel so brazenly and stupidly has done.
Phew, keep adding more players into the list: Heskey, Forlan, Fowler... bla bla bla please. I dont care anymore.Re_Deus said:He's not even the most 'mesmerising' Portguese player around. Figo and Rui Costa have been doing it for years. What about the Brazillians? There's probably loads in the Brazillian league doing what Ronaldo does yet we never hear about them (Diego and Robinho, for example). The same goes for Argentine players. Ronaldo, Rivaldo (when he's fit), Ronaldinho all are tremendous at exciting the crowd. What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have? Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years. Schevchenko, Totti, Kaka, Del Piero, from Italy, and a host of talented Dutch players such as Van der Vaart, Wesley Snieder and Robben hardly compare unfavourably with Ronaldo.
There's probably dozens, literally dozens more around the various leagues in Europe and the world that 'mesmerise' football audiences. Just because they don't have a venue like Old Trafford or Highbury to show off their talents doesn't mean they should be ignored, as Samuel so brazenly and stupidly has done.
I do. Plenty of old fogeys like me appreciate players in Keane-Vieira-Gerrard mode more than a bunch of crossovers. And Ronaldo has a terrible haircut. His head needs to be shaved.VanNistlerater said:Who would disagree with this statement from yesterdays Observor?
I would change it to "If you like football and don't like watching Cristiano Ronaldo play, you have a hole in your soul"JazzG said:Good player and I enjoy watching him play but that means I have to like him
first of all... i love the way you say - 'hell even ryan giggs can be put into that list'... so basically you rate all of those above ryan giggs.. bitter and clueless.Re_Deus said:What does Ronaldo have that Duff or Pires, or even Harry Kewell on a good day don't have? Hell, you could even put Giggs into that list, another one who's consitently(ish) done it for years.
There's probably dozens, literally dozens more around the various leagues in Europe and the world that 'mesmerise' football audiences. Just because they don't have a venue like Old Trafford or Highbury to show off their talents doesn't mean they should be ignored, as Samuel so brazenly and stupidly has done.
spinoza said:No they haven't.
Robinho is famous for once doing seven stepovers before leaving the defender on his arse - something that Ronaldo will likely do before his career in England is over.
Remember that Robinho is regarded as the best talent to come out of Brazil in a generation.
Are they from Argentina?
Incredible close ball control - he of all United players bears comparison to George Best in that respect.
Read once more - incredible close ball control
NONE of the players on your list have that like Ronaldo does
Let's see you name your 'dozens'
You need at least 24 names by the by
The article is probably exaggerating, but then so are you
That makes you equally stupid doesn't it?
ok..forget the liking him part... but surely there are very few players in the premiership this season who have entertained and mesmerised the crowds like him...??JazzG said:Good player and I enjoy watching him play but that means I have to like him
You cannot but laugh at you, you're such a wanker it almost beggers belief.Re_Deus said:Spinoza, you're a blind, deluded fool. EVERY player I mentioned has great close control. Just because they don't waste their time trying step overs that don't fool defenders or fancy tricks that add nothing to the productivity of the team but act as eye conday for the crowd, doesn't mean they lack something of importance in comparasion with Ronaldo.
You are missing the point, it's not a personal thing, it means do you "like" watching him, do you "like" his football?JazzG said:Good player and I enjoy watching him play but that means I have to like him
Now you're comparing this less-than-half-a-season wonder to George Best? Good Lord, talk about over-killing the hype surrounding this kid.Wibble said:I agree with Redeus.
Ronaldo is a useless flash harry like Best before him. We need more players like Dennis Wise.
Nah. The stepovers fool plenty of people.Re_Deus said:Spinoza, you're a blind, deluded fool. EVERY player I mentioned has great close control. Just because they don't waste their time trying step overs that don't fool defenders or fancy tricks that add nothing to the productivity of the team but act as eye conday for the crowd, doesn't mean they lack something of importance in comparasion with Ronaldo.
I am comparing them in that they are/were both young, audacioulsy talented youngsters with huge potential in Uniteds 1st team.Re_Deus said:Now you're comparing this less-than-half-a-season wonder to George Best? Good Lord, talk about over-killing the hype surrounding this kid.
It's quite funny 'cos I remember how many of you Mancs were slating the press for what you felt was Wayne Rooney being overhyped, yet here you are, and the press once more, doing exactly the same with Ronaldo...
You could say that same about Gerrard.Re_Deus said:Less than half a season of decent performances and he's destined for greatness? Please.
the great man himself said that Ronaldo was truly the only player to deserve the comparison to him, even more so than Giggs. i think George Best would know more than anyone else who should be compared to George BestRe_Deus said:Now you're comparing this less-than-half-a-season wonder to George Best? Good Lord, talk about over-killing the hype surrounding this kid.
It's quite funny 'cos I remember how many of you Mancs were slating the press for what you felt was Wayne Rooney being overhyped, yet here you are, and the press once more, doing exactly the same with Ronaldo...