Luis Nani | 2010/11 Performances

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Twigginater said:
Yes he is. Phenomenal player. However can't see him carrying on as long as Giggs has for example.
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Not many could, but he's got a good few years in him left, he's most certainly not a winger that's based on pace, which means he won't have to adjust his game like Giggs did when he lost most of his immense pace. I can see him playing at the top level for Chelsea for at least 3 more years.

Anyway, as good as Nani has become I don't think he's quite comparable to Malouda yet, I still think he's the best winger in the PL, but considering Nani is 6/7 years younger, there's absolutely no reason to suggest that he won't be the countries best at some stage.
 
Brophs said:
Nah, he's not.

He's improving, that much is obvious, but he's still incredibly patchy at times, which is frustrating given his obvious talent. As was pointed out in the commentary yesterday, you don't know what you're going to get from him. He's closer than ever to being a massive player for us, but he needs to become far more consistent before he's considered the best.

He's still a work in progress, albeit one that gives us far more hope than this time last season.
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Don't you think the commentary was unfair on him yesterday? I think they were talking about the Nani of old rather than the one playing now. His consistency since February has been at a very high level for a player his age if you ask me. I think he matured after his nearly (rumoured) exiting the club last season and that's fixed his consistency to a level expected of a world-class player.
 
ciderman9000000 said:
Don't you think the commentary was unfair on him yesterday? I think they were talking about the Nani of old rather than the one playing now. His consistency since February has been at a very high level for a player his age if you ask me.
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Well just about every station gave him MoTM by the end so I don't think they were THAT harsh. Only really in the first half where he was very frustrating (though I still think he played well and some folks on here were a little harsh on him).

They're certainly not as bad as in the past, the boy used to get an absolute lashing off commentators whenever he did anything even remotely wrong (which was a lot, to be fair), but now I think they're more of the "well he can be frustrating, but we know he's likely to do something brilliant soon" mould.
 
ciderman9000000 said:
Don't you think the commentary was unfair on him yesterday? I think they were talking about the Nani of old rather than the one playing now. His consistency since February has been at a very high level for a player his age if you ask me.
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Yeah, it was a bit, Cider, but it still rings true to an extent. I thought he had a lot of ball in good areas -often out wide - and too often he was hitting the full back or not releasing it at the right time. Then again, against say, Arsenal last season he made the right choices most every time, so the potential is there. But then you have other games where it doesn't look so easy for him. Like most young wingers, to be fair.

I think he's well worth his place in the team as he can produce something special but I'd need to see more from him before he's the 'best' anything. With his potential and the learning curve he's been on I wouldn't bet against him.
 
I've been liking how in the past two games he's been doubled up on a lot but he always seems to find the space to set his right back free, O'Shea. :)
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
If he only played on the right wing for us, by January he'd be be the best winger in the league bar none.
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Well, bar one maybe :) But mostly true, he's just so much better on the right.

However, I'm of the opinion that he'll be much better in a 4-5-1 on the left than he is in a 4-4-2 on the left, because that formation suits players cutting in and shooting so much better, i.e. Robben
 
ciderman9000000 said:
Well exactly. You get the feeling that there's just so much more to come from Nani; i think he's bloody good now - now that he's come of age - but looking to the future and i can see nothing standing in his way to becoming a true footballing great. I think we laugh when talking about players as 'the next Ronaldo', but we should remember that it was United who crafted Ronaldo into the player he is today; when given the raw tallent to work with we can craft such a player again; and in Nani we're right now seeing progression similar to that which turned a tallented but inconsistent Ronaldo into the best player in the world. This season we're seeing a Nani in the best physical condition of his life and with a far more mature footballing head than he showed twelve months ago; he's always had the tallent, only now he seems to have the body and the mind to make it all click - exactly the kind of advances that a few years previous put Ronaldo on the map and into the United history books.
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i dont think he will reach the heights of Ronaldo, but i believe he will become one of the finest wingers in the world! btw you location is we'll never die, HE'll never die. it needs to be like the first one.
 
cina said:
Well, bar one maybe :) But mostly true, he's just so much better on the right.

However, I'm of the opinion that he'll be much better in a 4-5-1 on the left than he is in a 4-4-2 on the left, because that formation suits players cutting in and shooting so much better, i.e. Robben
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IMO He is eventually going to become as good on the left as he is on the right. That Bayern game being a glimpse. But him being consistent that way will take some time.
 
Ballache said:
i dont think he will reach the heights of Ronaldo, but i believe he will become one of the finest wingers in the world! btw you location is we'll never die, HE'll never die. it needs to be like the first one.
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I had it like the first one originally but some Indian fella told me it was wrong somehow, he said the second line had to be slightly different and showed me how to write it. You reckon it should be the same then?
 
He's got a lot of potential and is delivering, but not yet as consistently as he will.

He's still growing as a player, which is very exciting. Right now though, I think Valencia is above him.

Gareth Bale is looking a frightening prospect. We should make him ours next summer.
 
KingMinger22 said:
He's got a lot of potential and is delivering, but not yet as consistently as he will.

He's still growing as a player, which is very exciting. Right now though, I think Valencia is above him.

Gareth Bale is looking a frightening prospect. We should make him ours next summer.
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Level pegging I'd say. They're fairly different wingers anyway, in their style.
 
ciderman9000000 said:
Don't you think the commentary was unfair on him yesterday? I think they were talking about the Nani of old rather than the one playing now. His consistency since February has been at a very high level for a player his age if you ask me. I think he matured after his nearly (rumoured) exiting the club last season and that's fixed his consistency to a level expected of a world-class player.
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That co-commentator on ESPN wasn't too fond of him. Kept going on about his wastefulness and all that. It was as if the second half of last season didn't actually happen.

He stopped going on in the second half, obviously.
 
ciderman9000000 said:
I had it like the first one originally but some Indian fella told me it was wrong somehow, he said the second line had to be slightly different and showed me how to write it. You reckon it should be the same then?
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نحن أبدا سنموت,نحن أبدا سنموت this is how it should be, Arabic is my first language, i can read it and write it and speak it fluently.

edit: you could use this too لن نموت ابدا
 
Thought he had a good game yesterday. In general, he wasn't that good in the first half. Had a good shot saved and wasted a chance with a poor touch. But thought he was much better in the second half. Absolutely brilliant goal and a lovely assist.

If he can perform like he did in the second half all the time, which I well believe he can do as the season goes on, he will be the best out and out winger in the PL.
 
KingEric7 said:
That co-commentator on ESPN wasn't too fond of him. Kept going on about his wastefulness and all that. It was as if the second half of last season didn't actually happen.

He stopped going on in the second half, obviously.
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I've been backing Nani from the start and all through his difficult second season to non-believers, but I think his performance from yesterday could have happened at any time during his United career. It was patchy and he was quite wasteful. Some great moments - the goal, the combination with Berbatov in the first half for example, but some poor moments too - that corner, for example, and a couple of really poor touches in great positions in the box, he should have rounded Green instead of blasting it over him too.

However, I think given a few more games, he'll get more consistancy to his game again.

I was impressed by the spaces he was getting into, in the channels between defenders, but he frequently was not picked out by those behind him, which is a shame - he can get us a lot more goals, I feel.
 
His improvement in the 2nd of half of last year doesn't look like it was limited to last year. Some of his recent performances are mildly Ronaldo-esque.
 
People are just reading too much into his game. It's like they are forcing to convice themselves that he is doing good. He has been barely above average, but not upto last season end's standards.

Inconsistent. Scores a good goal and screws up so many other end deliveries. Typical Nani.

Infact he was playing right wing in the last match and he was a threat till he reached the box. Fizzles out after that.
 
Stavros said:
People are just reading too much into his game. It's like they are forcing to convice themselves that he is doing good. He has been barely above average, but not upto last season end's standards.

Inconsistent. Scores a good goal and screws up so many other end deliveries. Typical Nani.

Infact he was playing right wing in the last match and he was a threat till he reached the box. Fizzles out after that.
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:lol:
 
Stavros said:
People are just reading too much into his game. It's like they are forcing to convice themselves that he is doing good. He has been barely above average, but not upto last season end's standards.

Inconsistent. Scores a good goal and screws up so many other end deliveries. Typical Nani.

Infact he was playing right wing in the last match and he was a threat till he reached the box. Fizzles out after that.
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He's clearly improved. Could've easily had a hat trick yesterday. Still a goal and an assist by a winger ain't a bad day at the office.
 
Agreed. Malouda is playing in league of his own at the moment. Although Nani's improvement and the upside of his youth suggest that he's not far off.
 
Raoul said:
Agreed. Malouda is playing in league of his own at the moment. Although Nani's improvement and the upside of his youth suggest that he's not far off.
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I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
 
Stavros said:
I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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I'd say based on performances alone, only Malouda would be ahead of him from that list.
 
Stavros said:
I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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:lol: Milner and Gutirrez, get a grip.
 
Stavros said:
I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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Malouda I'd agree with. Arshavin I don't but it's a reasonable shout. How would you justify saying that Milner (who has spent the better part of two years playing centrally) and Gutierrez?
 
Stavros said:
I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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Gutierrez? Milner? fecking hell. He's also been far, far better since January than Arshavin has.

'Above average'. Christ, does that mean Malouda has just been 'pretty good'?
 
When Rafael is on form, I think the Nani/Evra, Valencia/Rafael combo on the wings is devastating. Our outside play is ridiculously good, but I'm worried about our CM once Scholes retires. Would he just fade away like every old player should and allow us to stop relying on him so much?
 
Stavros said:
I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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I think most rational opinions would support Malouda, but not the other three. The new Nani brings far more to the table than the likes of Milner and Guitierez.
 
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