So if Roy was still our Captain would you still insult him? I can see where you are coming from Boss but there is more to Roy than just the controversy, he will always look to the future and has pops has mentioned he isn't the type of man to look back with misty eyes. He doesn't want to be the guy who was once a good player reminiscing on the telly talking about the glory days, he has that type of fear in him, he wants to be more, he needs to be more and that just makes me love the man even more.
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I understand, but why must the man say anything at all? instead of coming out with statements like he's erased us from him
can't he just keep it moving?
Players that I have seen that deserve to be called legends (in no particular order)
Keane
Ruud
Scholes
Giggs
Beckham
Ronaldo
All had their personality flaws (excepting Giggs and Scholes) but on the pitch they gave their all and dragged the team to many trophies. That is what matters to me, not subjective flawed concepts like 'love for the club'
Keane
Ruud
Scholes
Giggs
Beckham
Ronaldo
All had their personality flaws (excepting Giggs and Scholes) but on the pitch they gave their all and dragged the team to many trophies. That is what matters to me, not subjective flawed concepts like 'love for the club'
oh and by the way Mr Pogue these are just some of the comments I found in this thread
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/roy-keane-i-have-wiped-man-united-my-history-294506/index4.html
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/roy-keane-i-have-wiped-man-united-my-history-294506/index4.html
like I said before alot of United fans feel a certain way about him, why they don't contribue to this discussion I don't know, but it's far from a conspiracy
What personality flaws did Giggs ever have?
I heard early on in his career he and Sharpe used to run around, and he was always in the papers with some celebrity woman. Correct me on that if I'm wrong.
In his head he's younger than what his body is?
I don't agree with what Boss says. If anything, my opinions on Keane mirrors yours. He's a hero, despite all his gaping flaws. But why do you have to be condescending towards someone who doesn't share your views, eventually resorting to epithets?
You have to wonder sometimes. Anyone who purposley tried to injure another player, in my books, is disgusting. Thats an absolutly horrible thing to do, and no one can defend him for it. Hes done a lot of things in his time, and although he gave it is all for us, he was a prick, a cnut, and IMHO, a disgusting person in general. You dont have to be a rapist, murderer, paedophile etc to be a disgusting person.
Red tinted specs in full force here.
Red tinted specs in full force here.
that really is a great picWasn't this from the same game? I loved our attitude, we just shat all over them.
unbelievable quote, even from a scouser. Keane never gets the credit he deserves, a lot more than just aggression and tackling, a true box to box player and pisses all over Essien and Gerrard.
It's how he posts, unprovoked insults
you don't have to sit there and take it, dish it back
That's not making matters better though, is it?
In fairness, statements like those does underline his points.
oh lord, mickey, give it a rest - please?
of course it was an awful thing to do, but i understand why he did it
And that makes it more right?
i didn't say it was right
When we're finished hating Keane, who should be next in line? I reckon Cantona did some despicable things myself, and don't get me started on Scholesy's tackling.
Him and Sharpe were caught in a party once by Fergie and he did shag a few celebs but for the most part he did very well to stay out of the headlines given his high profile at a young age, and he's said he's given up alcohol almost completely since his mid-twenties. Was just curious as to why you drew a distinction between him and Scholesy in your other post. Scholes had that incident where he refused to travel to a reserve game, but I'd say they've both been model professionals and very easy for Fergie to manage overall.
No it doesn't. Keane was a far better player than either of them.
1) Cantona
2) Schmeichel
3) Best
4) Edwards
5) Fergie
6) Sir Bobby
7) Bebe
8) Ozil
Mind if I ask on what basis you feel so?
Without Keane, for all their ability, Giggs, Scholes and company may never have reached the heights collectively that they did. It's amazing that you consider being quiet more importantly than the leader than the vocal style of one of the greatest leaders in United history.
So the same thing that made him so brilliant a leader is the reason for him not being a united hero.
So who hasn't? Rooney's been that a million times, Gary Neville has, Scholes has, they all have, if they didn't they wouldn't be human.
probably because he's seen him play
Sorry for being condescending, but on the basis of watching all three of them throughout their careers, at club and international level.
I'm not really interested in having a big slagging match over it though. You'll just have to agree to agree with me
Beat me to it Erica.Keane is the player Essien could havebeen. But he's been able to be as good as him. To be honest, her post was spot on. Don't see the debate in that one.
Have you met Pogue Mahone?
No, the profound thought I'm getting at is the yardstick to judge "better" will differ.Sorry for being condescending, but on the basis of watching all three of them throughout their careers, at club and international level.
I'm not really interested in having a big slagging match over it though. You'll just have to agree to agree with me
I just can't get around this thread to be honest. Why can't fans just love their greats for what they gave the club? Why does the player have to spend his every second loitering around Old Trafford as if he has nothing else to do? Keane is his own man, it's why he led to us to so many titles, it is why he will do and say what he wants and feels like and want to more than someone who is always an ex united player. We took that part of him gratefully when he was employed by us but can't when he's no longer at the club.
Keane was never so good that he 'pisses all over Essien and Gerrard'
Well, it would have to be a very narrow or specific yardstick for either of those to be rated better than Keane.
Hollywood passes or long range shots maybe.
feck all else.
Oh yes he was. They could have been as good as him. They never have been.
he most definitely was
he was, straight golden showered all over them
Every United fan was gunning for Essien as a replacement for Keane. Every United fan's dream replacement for Keane was Gerrard. Why the change in stance now? Apparently, those who have seen Duncan Edwards play compare him to Gerrard than Keane. That too should count for something in terms of talent pissing.
What I infer from your opinions is that Keane was a leader while the other two aren't? Gerrard has inspired an inferior Liverpool to some miraculous achievements, and when it going got tough, stuck around with his team. Essien has been an unsung leader for Chelsea, but not as what Keane was. That's largely due to Lampard being favoured over him.
Also, while I myself feel Keane was a better player than the two, he certainly wasn't that good.
i agree
not in mine, certainly
and duncan edwards compared to gerrard? never in a million years
i agree
hehe, I wish mate, I wishYou're confusing hype with performance.