Arsenal 2:0 Manchester United

zeekey · May 7, 2017

AndyJ1985 said:
Every week it's the same. We drop points and top 4 is all but over. Then Liverpool/City drop points and top 4 is back on.

Let it go already. We're not winning all four of our remaining games.

I expect Liverpool to take at least 4 pts and City to get 7-9 pts. We would need 10 from 12. I think the Europa will be our priority.

GM K · May 7, 2017

Mister_Stubbs said:
Wouldn't call that a weakened side by the definition of the word, still have enough about us to beat this Arsenal side.

Sadly, any squad with Rooney starting is 'weakened'.

And Mikhi is almost minus one these days.

And we have recently seen how weak we are without Pogba.

Anyway, the idea of going all out for the Europa is a very smart one. Sensible risk.

#07 · May 7, 2017

If ever there was a day for Rooney to show he still has something to give...

Catt · May 7, 2017

Rashford on the bench?

Catt · May 7, 2017

#07 said:
If ever there was a day for Rooney to show he still has something to give...

I doubt he still has it in him

Sp00ks11 · May 7, 2017

COME ON UNITED!!!

Irrational. · May 7, 2017

What an opportunity.

Beating Arsenal, Spurs and Southampton away is going to be an extremely difficult task.

Damien · May 7, 2017

Jazz said:
I'm really not crazy about this team... here is another opportunity for top four and we haven't yet qualified for EL final. Too much of a gamble here to play this team. I would not have started Tuanzebe in such a crucial game, and we have no composure at the back with Smalling and Jones together.

What is the point of giving up on top four when we're still this close. On paper, Arsenal should win this

We've drawn 10 games at home. The draw against Swansea was the final straw for Mourinho in concentrating on the league. For us now, getting a draw against Celta Vigo and a win in the Europa League final is a more realistic scenario than beating Arsenal away, Spurs away (who have 16 wins and 2 draws at home), Southampton away and Crystal Palace at home.

K2K · May 7, 2017

Jazz said:
As long as there's a chance we should keep trying for top 4. If we're 10 points behind or something then you have no choice then. However, putting all the eggs in the EL basket doesn't seem a sensible decision imo..

It is.

Especially considering the fact that top 4 qualification is at best a long shot.

We have three hard fixtures left that we are unlikely to win all.

The EL is a tournament we can win with our quality. If we cant, then we dont really deserve to be in the UCL. I'd rather we werent in the UCL if we are just there to add the numbers like Arsenal.

#07 · May 7, 2017

Red Katie said:
I doubt he still has it in him

Yeah. I reckon he's washed up too. Still, it'd write some great headlines if he managed to pull out a top quality performance today.

Catt · May 7, 2017

#07 said:
Yeah. I reckon he's washed up too. Still, it'd write some great headlines if he managed to pull out a top quality performance today.

Indeed.

AltiUn · May 7, 2017

Top 4 is gone so I'm very glad we've rested our key players for Thursday.

Dumbstar · May 7, 2017

I'm hoping Jose has mixed feelings about catching up with Liverpool and loses out by biting off too much. Anyway, should be an exciting game regardless of who plays.

Igor Drefljak · May 7, 2017

Damien said:
We've drawn 10 games at home. The draw against Swansea was the final straw for Mourinho in concentrating on the league. For us now, getting a draw against Celta Vigo and a win in the Europa League final is a more realistic scenario than beating Arsenal away, Spurs away (who have 16 wins and 2 draws at home), Southampton away and Crystal Palace at home.

The thing is, we are in such a strong position in the semi final as it is, we shouldn't need to rest players to get past them at home when nothing but a win will do for them.
We have such a good opportunity to get bring top 4 back into our hands I'd have gone for the win here.
If by the Palace match, we can't get top 4, we can rest for the final, but I just feel our position in the semi final is strong.

Although it's not that much of a weakened team to be honest, but I'd have had Pogba and somebody instead of Tuanzebe and Rooney

togg · May 7, 2017

Rooney will score today.........to annoy a lot of people :-)

Random Task · May 7, 2017

Shame Bailly didn't recover in time, happy for Tuanzebe though. This boy most definitely has something to offer.

Miki owes us a performance, he's been out of sorts for weeks now. Hope Martial shows up.

Gonna miss Pogba bigtime.

Smores · May 7, 2017

Fine with weakened time. We've seen how dead we've been lately

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

zeekey said:
I expect Liverpool to take at least 4 pts and City to get 7-9 pts. We would need 10 from 12. I think the Europa will be our priority.

We can still focus on both if we beat arsenal today.

United Pro · May 7, 2017

Tuanzebe against Sanchez will be key. I think we all could guess Valencia would be rested and with Young's injury, that could well be where the game is lost. I just hope it won't be anything like last season when Sanchez ripped Darmian.

Bojan11 · May 7, 2017

Red Katie said:
Rashford on the bench?

He was limping the other day. Pointless taking risks.

LFC-Fans · May 7, 2017

If Arsenal don't win then they truly are in a rut. It's a semi decent United XI. Mourinho has one eye on the second leg for sure

Random Task · May 7, 2017

togg said:
Rooney will score today.........to annoy a lot of people :-)

Imagine the meltdown if he scored 2? Would be popcorn worthy.

whatwha · May 7, 2017

I'm worried about Herrera being run into the ground. We need two new midfielders in the summer.

stu_1992 · May 7, 2017

Not as much of a weak team as I expected tbh. I'm hopeful now

Tom Van Persie · May 7, 2017

Red Katie said:
Rashford on the bench?

He needed a good rest.

Adam-Utd · May 7, 2017

togg said:
Rooney will score today.........to annoy a lot of people :-)

Nobody will be annoyed if rooney scores. The lack of goals/performance are the reasons why people do get annoyed.

togg · May 7, 2017

You just know Welbeck will knock one in........

Castia · May 7, 2017

Not a bad line up.

Top 4 is extremely difficult at best with our fixtures so prioritising the EL is no problem for me. Looking forward to this game, the pressure feels off a bit.

prtk0811 · May 7, 2017

AltiUn said:
Top 4 is gone so I'm very glad we've rested our key players for Thursday.

Liverpool drew so it's not gone , and by no means this is a weak team , we also have a strong bench.

Jippy · May 7, 2017

Jose's argument makes sense tbf. Europa- win two games. Prem- win four.

DomesticTadpole · May 7, 2017

Random Task said:
Imagine the meltdown if he scored 2? Would be popcorn worthy.

If he scores two we can start a campaign for a knighthood.

Random Task · May 7, 2017

LFC-Fans said:
If Arsenal don't win then they truly are in a rut. It's a semi decent United XI. Mourinho has one eye on the second leg for sure

Absolutely, can't blame him for that though. That 4th spot is to close to call in my opinion, far safer bet to win the Europa.

Jazz · May 7, 2017

Damien said:
We've drawn 10 games at home. The draw against Swansea was the final straw for Mourinho in concentrating on the league. For us now, getting a draw against Celta Vigo and a win in the Europa League final is a more realistic scenario than beating Arsenal away, Spurs away (who have 16 wins and 2 draws at home), Southampton away and Crystal Palace at home.

I see that logic as well, but it's bloody scary seeing as you never know what will happen in cup games... I'm worried, it's a huge gamble in my opinion..

Handsome Devil · May 7, 2017

I never want United to lose to Arsenal.....but, if it means Arsenal scrape top 4 and Wenger gets another 20 year extension, I might just take that hit. :rolleyes:

JG3001 · May 7, 2017

Jazz said:
As long as there's a chance we should keep trying for top 4. If we're 10 points behind or something then you have no choice then. However, putting all the eggs in the EL basket doesn't seem a sensible decision imo..

I understand that we should, and normally I would agree, but I just can't see us winning our remaining four games based on our performances as a whole this season.

All hypothetical of course, but if we fielded a strong team today, didn't win, and picked up injuries along the way, we really do jeopardise our chances in the EL.

My other point is that our usual team has let us down on so many occasions in the fight for top 4, so I see little wrong with taking a gamble on a much changed first 11.

manunited1919 · May 7, 2017

Any team with Rooney in it looks like a sabotage attempt. But I guess we must keep up the pretense that he is still a professional footballer.

togg · May 7, 2017

DomesticTadpole said:
If he scores two we can start a campaign for a knighthood.

Beckham would be furious......

GrandJury · May 7, 2017

Neither team is making top 4, difference is United have a competition they can win to qualify for the CL

Jazz · May 7, 2017

K2K said:
It is.

Especially considering the fact that top 4 qualification is at best a long shot.

We have three hard fixtures left that we are unlikely to win all.

The EL is a tournament we can win with our quality. If we cant, then we dont really deserve to be in the UCL. I'd rather we werent in the UCL if we are just there to add the numbers like Arsenal.

Ok, fair enough..

GM K · May 7, 2017

Big Ben Foster said:
Not confident. Two CB's rushing back from injury, Carrick and Rooney in the same XI, and the Caf likes the lineup (which is never a good sign).

Mister_Stubbs · May 7, 2017

The pace of Sanchez and Welbeck is a worry but that Arsenal defence is certainly one that can be got at.

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