Arsenal 3:2 Manchester United

sepulturite · Jan 21, 2023

croadyman said:
Yeah it's hard to be optimistic

You, not optimistic? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

Rozay · Jan 21, 2023

I must say, I was very confident before Casemiro’s inevitable suspension. I’m confident that our best XI has the answer to all of their strengths, then from there it’s about us causing them problems.

It is also very important for me that Ten Hag picks what I consider to be the right back four. That is no Dalot and no Malacia. Shaw has done well at centre half, but we need him at LB. Saka was skinning Malacia all day in the first game, and I think Shaw can handle him far more comfortably. Likewise Wan Bissaka against Martinelli. Martinez will be fine against Nketiah centrally. Casemiro would have been able to handle Odegaard and Fred Xhaka. Now with Odegaard up against Scott, I can foresee problems.

NLunited · Jan 21, 2023

VP89 said:
This is such a wank preview
Rashfords position is wrong and based on mental gymnastics from a ten hag statement.

Also he's not playing two left footers at holding midfield. Martinez hasn't played CDM for a long time.

Absolutely. Martinez probably won’t be in midfield. If he did he would be next to Eriksen, not Fred who is left footed.

Bruno will be on the right, Rashy left.

Samid · Jan 21, 2023

DDG
Lindelof - Varane - Shaw - Malacia
AWB - Martinez
Bruno - Eriksen - Rashford
Weghorst

We can't start McFred in a game like this. Casemiro out is a blow but we have somewhat of a like-for-like replacement in AWB. He can tackle, break up play and 1v1 be just as good as Case. Spider-Butcher has the potential to be one of the best double pivots in the league. It's something we should build towards with Case aging and on his last legs.

Lindelof at RB isn't ideal but has to be done with Dalot missing. Shaw is unmovable from CB after pocketing Yeti.

Also possible to go for the 3 atb option:

DDG
Maguire - Varane - Shaw
Lindelof - AWB - Martinez - Malacia
Eriksen
Bruno - Rashford

Rozay · Jan 22, 2023

Samid said:
DDG
Lindelof - Varane - Shaw - Malacia
AWB - Martinez
Bruno - Eriksen - Rashford
Weghorst

We can't start McFred in a game like this. Casemiro out is a blow but we have somewhat of a like-for-like replacement in AWB. He can tackle, break up play and 1v1 be just as good as Case. Spider-Butcher has the potential to be one of the best double pivots in the league. It's something we should build towards with Case aging and on his last legs.

Lindelof at RB isn't ideal but has to be done with Dalot missing. Shaw is unmovable from CB after pocketing Yeti.

Also possible to go for the 3 atb option:

DDG
Maguire - Varane - Shaw
Lindelof - AWB - Martinez - Malacia
Eriksen
Bruno - Rashford

No.

NLunited · Jan 22, 2023

sunama said:
McFred = non existent midfield.
If we do use them, we may have to focus on counter-attacking Ole ball.
Or just hit long balls.
This is a winnable game, but if we attempt to "outplay" them, I think we'll lose.
We need to play in a way that our midfield gets bypassed as McFred will get utterly dominated.

With Eriksen acting as dlp it is not McFred.

MadDogg · Jan 22, 2023

DJ_21 said:
If we planning on playing on the counter then we have to stick rashford up top and garnacho left. Rashford scored both goals through the middle against them last time.

Actually Rashford didn't score those goals until after he moved over to the left when Ronaldo came on. He did get his assist to Antony while he was playing upfront though.

croadyman · Jan 22, 2023

Rozay said:
No.

Yeah no chance of AWB playing there

UNITED ACADEMY · Jan 22, 2023

Walters_19_MuFc said:
With Martial not travelling, I'd much prefer us to start with Weghorst up top, as it will allow us to bring on Garnacho to make a difference as he did against City.

Weghorst will also give us the option of going long, which could be an option to beat Arsenal's high press.

The issue about Weghorst is that he’s slow. So that option going long against high line wouldn’t be effective if Weghorst himself can’t outrun arsenal defenders. Weghorst seems to be better option against the lesser teams or mid table teams. Weghorst would be good option against arsenal only if we can dominate the possession but at this stage, we are yet to reach the level of dominating possession against arsenal.

croadyman · Jan 22, 2023

UNITED ACADEMY said:
The issue about Weghorst is that he’s slow. So that option going long against high line wouldn’t be effective if Weghorst himself can’t outrun arsenal defenders. Weghorst seems to be better option against the lesser teams or mid table teams. Weghorst would be good option against arsenal only if we can dominate the possession but at this stage, we are yet to reach the level of dominating possession against arsenal.

Yeah I feel a bit for Wout because not had chance to see if he can impact game as sub due to yet another Martial injury

Nicoseth · Jan 22, 2023

Samid said:
DDG
Lindelof - Varane - Shaw - Malacia
AWB - Martinez
Bruno - Eriksen - Rashford
Weghorst

We can't start McFred in a game like this. Casemiro out is a blow but we have somewhat of a like-for-like replacement in AWB. He can tackle, break up play and 1v1 be just as good as Case. Spider-Butcher has the potential to be one of the best double pivots in the league. It's something we should build towards with Case aging and on his last legs.

Lindelof at RB isn't ideal but has to be done with Dalot missing. Shaw is unmovable from CB after pocketing Yeti.

Also possible to go for the 3 atb option:

DDG
Maguire - Varane - Shaw
Lindelof - AWB - Martinez - Malacia
Eriksen
Bruno - Rashford

This is mental.

croadyman · Jan 22, 2023

Nicoseth said:
This is mental.

Yeah sure is still can't get my head round we have to cope with no Casa. Damn why couldn't we have shown ruthlessness and put game away. Will definitely be left with thoughts of what might have been unless we somehow can produce a miracle and avoid defeat

Scottynaldinho · Jan 22, 2023

I'm quietly confident about this game.

OmarUnited4ever · Jan 22, 2023

my guess for the formation is: -

DDG
AWB Varane Licha Shaw
Fred Mctominay
Bruno Eriksen Garnacho
Rashford

Arsenal will definitely have more possession since I am not confident McFred will help in ball movement, the hope here is that they are at least combative and help stop/block Arsenal's midfield, and Arsenal's defense will surely push up against us, so we will need Rashford threat in running behind their defenders, and Bruno can play on the right but will move centrally at times to help with releasing the ball to our quick attackers.

Cpt Negative · Jan 22, 2023

Just hoping for a strong ref performance. We’ve had some absolute howler or decisions go against us in the last few seasons at Emirates

DJ_21 · Jan 22, 2023

MadDogg said:
Actually Rashford didn't score those goals until after he moved over to the left when Ronaldo came on. He did get his assist to Antony while he was playing upfront though.

You sure? That first goal when Bruno played that lovely through ball he was definitely through the middle.

DJ_21 · Jan 22, 2023

Don’t think Fred and eriksen will be enough to win the midfield battle. Wonder if he’ll go eriksen, Fred and mctominay and use Bruno on the right again. Should be garnacho and rashford as part of the front 3 but not sure ETH will start garnacho in a big game.

DJ_21 · Jan 22, 2023

OmarUnited4ever said:
my guess for the formation is: -

DDG
AWB Varane Licha Shaw
Fred Mctominay
Bruno Eriksen Garnacho
Rashford

Arsenal will definitely have more possession since I am not confident McFred will help in ball movement, the hope here is that they are at least combative and help stop/block Arsenal's midfield, and Arsenal's defense will surely push up against us, so we will need Rashford threat in running behind their defenders, and Bruno can play on the right but will move centrally at times to help with releasing the ball to our quick attackers.

Same line up I’d go for.

Escobar · Jan 22, 2023

Scottynaldinho said:
I'm quietly confident about this game.

I am not. Our midfield is a serious worry, it will be difficult to have much control.

ScholesyTheWise · Jan 22, 2023

I wouldn't have been confident going into this game even if we had Casemiro,
what with our 3 games in 8 days and all that...

But the gulf in quality without him is too big.
McFred is a disaster waiting to happen,
Eriksen with either of them is also bad, plus he is gassed as feck.

and Rashford + Antony need to be at their absolute best...

shite. I'll be fine with a draw.

Von Mistelroum · Jan 22, 2023

It's so depressing that with just one injury we're likely back to a midfield of McFred. When will we move on? When they retire must likely!

Scorpy · Jan 22, 2023

Can't be confident with McTominay starting away at Arsenal. We've made massive progress, but as we can all see are just one injury/suspension away from being half the team.

Idxomer · Jan 22, 2023

Personally, I would go

De Gea

AWB - Varane - Martinez - Shaw - Malacia

Fred - Eriksen

Bruno

Weghorst - Rashford

Leftback99 · Jan 22, 2023

Mike Smalling said:
I'd argue we haven't had a convincing performance away from home this season, so I'm pretty worried here.

Brentford (0-4) - Obviously awful, but early in the season.
Southampton (1-0) - Narrow win. Not a great performance.
Leicester (1-0) - Narrow win. Not a great performance.
Man City (3-6) - Battered.
Everton (2-1) - Decent, but against one of the worst teams in the league.
Chelsea (1-1) - Arguably our best performance given the opposition. Still didn't win.
Aston Villa (1-3) - Really poor performance.
Fulham (2-1) - Late and narrow win.
Wolves (1-0) - Narrow win based on Rashford magic.
Crystal Palace (1-1) - Bad performance in the second half.

We have a 50% win record, and haven't beaten a side by more than one goal away from home. Hoping for the best tomorrow, but it will be a really tough game.

Agree with that. We're poor away from home. Although no one else has a great record this season apart from Arsenal.

C'est Moi Cantona · Jan 22, 2023

No way ETH goes with McFred, I'm expecting him to do something with a bit more finesse than that.

MDFC Manager · Jan 22, 2023

OmarUnited4ever said:
my guess for the formation is: -

DDG
AWB Varane Licha Shaw
Fred Mctominay
Bruno Eriksen Garnacho
Rashford

Arsenal will definitely have more possession since I am not confident McFred will help in ball movement, the hope here is that they are at least combative and help stop/block Arsenal's midfield, and Arsenal's defense will surely push up against us, so we will need Rashford threat in running behind their defenders, and Bruno can play on the right but will move centrally at times to help with releasing the ball to our quick attackers.

This is my choice too. Crowd the midfield, play a slightly conservative game and look to break on the counter.

Scottynaldinho · Jan 22, 2023

Escobar said:
I am not. Our midfield is a serious worry, it will be difficult to have much control.

Less is more, we've seen that against City and Arsenal in the first fixture. Casemiro missing is huge but still, I'm confident we'll get a lot of chances on the counter.

suheilsworld · Jan 22, 2023

Without casemiro , a CS becomes more tough. Arsenal have scored in all their home games . I think we getting anything from this games all comes down to our inability to take the chances and taking too many misses to score one goal. We need to have one of those days where our chances start going in and we get the luck of the VAR as arsenal will score

LordSpud · Jan 22, 2023

This defence should be able to soak up the pressure and we just hit them on the counter much like the Ole days of old.

Shai-Hulud · Jan 22, 2023

PoTMS said:
With today's results, we can afford a defeat here now without denting our top 4 hopes. I'd still be disappointed to lose but without Casemiro, it's not looking great at the home of the league leaders.

Spurs will be just 6 points behind.

phelans shorts · Jan 22, 2023

With the league as it is this is basically a free hit. A draw doesn’t do anything for anyone so let’s go for the win.

Also absolutely no chance Garnacho starts, he’s our X factor off the bench

Mcking · Jan 22, 2023

Rashford will go through on goal at least once. If he converts, we win.

horsechoker · Jan 22, 2023

C'est Moi Cantona said:
No way ETH goes with McFred, I'm expecting him to do something with a bit more finesse than that.

Cometh the hour

Cometh the man

Member 125398 · Jan 22, 2023

horsechoker said:
Cometh the hour

Cometh the man

Bulldog United · Jan 22, 2023

Who cares

This club is run by people who need to leave and not swallow all my season ticket cash and dump poopy stuff that makes me sick ps make sure you set a strong password on your redcafe accounts

DJ_21 · Jan 22, 2023

Mcking said:
Rashford will go through on goal at least once. If he converts, we win.

Ye can see him having a lot of chances by running in behind. It’s all about if he can time his runs. Arsenal will no doubt play an high line but then again Arteta may of learnt his lesson and he’ll know that’s how we scored 2 goals past them at OT.

calodo2003 · Jan 22, 2023

Bulldog United said:
Who cares

This club is run by people who need to leave and not swallow all my season ticket cash and dump poopy stuff that makes me sick ps make sure you set a strong password on your redcafe accounts

You seem fun. What are your other Caf account handles?

MadDogg · Jan 22, 2023

DJ_21 said:
You sure? That first goal when Bruno played that lovely through ball he was definitely through the middle.

Obviously not everyone is static. The play was over on the right side of the pitch and pretty much everyone in both teams had moved over that way. Ronaldo had come over to the right to get closer to the ball and Rashford had drifted more central (still the furthest left player in our team though). He's being covered by the fullback and makes his run between him and the right centre back. Indeed that's just about Rashford's trademark run which he scores a significant amount of his goals from.

christinaa · Jan 22, 2023

Cpt Negative said:
Just hoping for a strong ref performance. We’ve had some absolute howler or decisions go against us in the last few seasons at Emirates

It's Anthony Taylor!
Need i say more?

TrustInJanuzaj · Jan 22, 2023

Shai-Hulud said:
Spurs will be just 6 points behind.

And they remain shite so why should be care.

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