Burnley 0:2 Manchester United

JPRouve · Sep 2, 2018

SqueakyWeasel said:
Really, the media bias is imagined? … you've managed to out-WUM yourself with that one … Pathétique

What the hell is wrong with you?

Sandikan · Sep 2, 2018

As comfortable an away win as we've had for ages.
Ten men for 20mins, yet we were the ones who should have increased the lead. Could have easily been a 4 or 5-0 job.

Much better.

Now it's a shame we have two weeks pissing about with internationals.

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Ultimately, the only reason why he missed was because he was fouled. There was absolutely no possible way Mee could've prevented him from scoring other than fouling him. He could've missed his one on one - better strikers have done so - but he didn't. He removed Hart from the equation and, in doing so, was entirely justified in his decision to beat the keeper before finishing.

He was caught up to because he slowed it down so much. That's also a major reason he missed. You don't get a much clearer run on goal than that, and we rarely get them ever these days. United strikers of old bury it.

Another split second of a delay and the defender could've even got a foot in, which is mad when you're clear through.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
BECAUSE HE WAS FOULED.

He might not have scored if he shot, either. Every striker in the world has missed them. Instead he removed the obstacle entirely, and put himself into a position where the only way they could stop him scoring was to bring him down.

Man, why you keep quoting when we're clearly never gonna agree ? I'm not interested in repeating myself over and over again. He missed a big chance, that is what it is. He's terrible in 1v1s

VeevaVee said:
He was caught up to because he slowed it down so much. That's also a major reason he missed. You don't get a much clearer run on goal than that, and we rarely get them ever these days. United strikers of old bury it.

Well said. Whatever he attempted (dribble past the keeper, side foot, chip), it should have been a goal.

Who's Kissing Cameras? · Sep 2, 2018

Mee should be off for blatant handball and being last man, plus he should’ve given away another penalty when Lukaku rounded Hart. Bardsley should’ve been off for his petulant kick out that sparked Rashfords reaction.

Jon Moss is a awful referee.

Sandikan · Sep 2, 2018

LennonNL said:
Nah. Quickly shimmied over to get his body in between Mee and the ball, and lost balance. Maybe Mee slightly put him off balance but feck me, Lukaku’s about 3 stone heavier he should stay on his feet there and fecking score.

You’re making out like I’m on my own with my opinion. I watched the game and that was shite from Lukaku, would’ve been a very soft pen.

The defender has challenged him from behind, not got near the ball, and brought him down.
Plenty of pens are given for similar every weekend.

Ramshock · Sep 2, 2018

We play Watford away after the break lets hope they remember they are Watford.

Irrational. · Sep 2, 2018

LennonNL said:
Agree with the Mee handball incident (assuming that’s one you’re referring to) but not sure about Bardsley. Was clearly Rashford’s fault, and the kick out wasn’t enough.

Regardless, Moss is a shite bag who can never control games. The standard of refereeing in the Prem is it’s biggest downfall at the moment.

Agreed regarding Moss, and yes those were the two incidents I was referring to.

He clearly took advantage of Rashford's naivety, but IMO if Rashford is sent off then Bardsley needs to be punished too. He's a prick.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
He was caught up to because he slowed it down so much. That's also a major reason he missed. You don't get a much clearer run on goal than that, and we rarely get them ever these days. United strikers of old bury it.

No it isn't. He wouldn't have missed if he wasn't fouled. He didn't give him an opportunity to win the ball back fairly.

You're telling me strikers of old don't miss them? Every striker in a world misses them. They don't tend to miss when they have rounded the keeper and are six yards out though with an empty net.

Fluctuation0161 · Sep 2, 2018

TMDaines said:
No way. Might have had more shots, but significantly better chances here.

Point still stands. Whatever your opinion on the quality of chances. We had more shots versus Spurs.

Sandikan · Sep 2, 2018

Looked pretty clear at the time, but that Mee handball is scandalous!
How the ref thinks that's accidental is incredible. Thank goodness we were so comfortably ahead by then.
The ABUs would go wild if the combo of the unpunished kick out (Bardsley booked for the scuffle after), the Mee pull down and then handball had been the other way round.

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
No it isn't. He wouldn't have missed if he wasn't fouled. He didn't give him an opportunity to win the ball back fairly.

You're telling me strikers of old don't miss them? Every striker in a world misses them. They don't tend to miss when they have rounded the keeper and are six yards out though with an empty net.

He let the defender catch up to him. If he hadn't, we'd have scored. Simple as that. A decisive ruthless striker doesn't let that happen. We've seen players dink it over the keeper or take it past them with speed many many times.
If it was just that instance where he's not sharp enough, it'd barely be mentioned, but it's not.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

kouroux said:
Man, why you keep quoting when we're clearly never gonna agree ? I'm not interested in repeating myself over and over again. He missed a big chance, that is what it is. He's terrible in 1v1s

Well said. Whatever he attempted (dribble past the keeper, side foot, chip), it should have been a goal.

The same reason why you keep quoting me? :houllier:

He didn't miss anything. He improved his chances of scoring, only for it to be taken away from him by a player blatantly, and that word needs to be stressed, fouling him. There's no accounting for shit refereeing. That's where the blame is situated. I know you're upset it denied your country a very good assist, but you've got this all wrong.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
The same reason why you keep quoting me?

He didn't miss anything. He improved his chances of scoring, only for it to be taken away from him by a player blatantly, and that word needs to be stressed, fouling him. There's no accounting for shit refereeing. That's where the blame is situated. I know you're upset it denied your country a very good assist, but you've got this all wrong.

I don't give a feck about my country when it comes to United. Thank you for assuming things you know feck all about me. Just piss off now

sparx99 · Sep 2, 2018

Can we stop calling it a headbutt from Rashford? He put his head in but that isn't a butt and no different from loads of similar incidents we see every weekend. It should have been yellow for both players and move on.

Obviously a stupid reaction from Rashford but none the less the ref couldn't wait to send him off.

As for Lukaku; we shouldn't pick him apart too much considering he scored two goals and he looks a lot fitter than his first couple of appearances this season. That being said my concern is for those games when he only gets one chance to score. He is still too wasteful and I agree he was fouled on the one-on-one but the best players just get that done more often. It wasn't the biggest foul from Mee and he should be strong enough to just finish it regardless.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
He let the defender catch up to him. If he hadn't, we'd have scored. Simple as that. A decisive ruthless striker doesn't let that happen. We've seen players dink it over the keeper or take it past them with speed many many times.
If it was just that instance where he's not sharp enough, it'd barely be mentioned, but it's not.

He didn't allow the defender to win the ball off him fairly, and in doing so I'mproved his chances of scoring. That's what's simple.

We've also seen players try to dink it over the keeper and miss, or over run the take on and remove the angle. Lukaku did none of those things, he put Hart on his arse and opened the ball up for a tap in.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

kouroux said:
I don't give a feck about my country when it comes to United. Thank you for assuming things you know feck all about me. Just piss off now

Seriously? Your original post was about denying Pogba an assist. :lol:

It wasn't about a ridiculous refereeing decision, or how Lukaku was unjustly denied a tap in, it was about a bloody assist.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Seriously? Your original post was about denying Pogba an assist.

It wasn't about a ridiculous refereeing decision, or how Lukaku was unjustly denied a tap in, it was about a bloody assist.

What has it got to do with France again ? Is Pogba not a Man Utd player first ? You're really weird man. Besides you took that comment way too seriously

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
He didn't allow the defender to win the ball off him fairly, and in doing so I'mproved his chances of scoring. That's what's simple.

We've also seen players try to dink it over the keeper and miss, or over run the take on and remove the angle. Lukaku did none of those things, he put Hart on his arse and opened the ball up for a tap in.

The intelligent play would've been to go right past the keeper, away from the defender. He played into trouble.
RVP, Ruud, Ole Gunnar, Rooney in his prime...I'd bet on them to finish it. Pause the game as Lukaku gets put through and I'd bet on him to miss.

Lennon7 · Sep 2, 2018

Irrational. said:
Agreed regarding Moss, and yes those were the two incidents I was referring to.

He clearly took advantage of Rashford's naivety, but IMO if Rashford is sent off then Bardsley needs to be punished too. He's a prick.

Not only should he have sent Mee off for denying Lukaku running through on goal with his hand, but he didn’t even give the free kick?! Bottleless behaviour. Something needs doing about these shit refs.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

kouroux said:
What has it got to do with France again ? Is Pogba not a Man Utd player first ? You're really weird man. Besides you took that comment way too seriously

Did I say it was specifically about that? He is your countryman, is he not? How precious are you?

I’m taking things too seriously? You’ve just got “pissed off” because I said you and Pogba are both French. Some people will get upset about anything.

Hammondo · Sep 2, 2018

JustinC00 said:
It was only poor because a fecking defender pushed him over

But he didn't, he fell over.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
The intelligent play would've been to go right past the keeper, away from the defender. He played into trouble.
RVP, Ruud, Ole Gunnar, Rooney in his prime...I'd bet on them to finish it. Pause the game as Lukaku gets put through and I'd bet on him to miss.

Maybe in that splint second, he remembered the open goal miss with his right foot and decided to end the action with his stronger foot which was the direction that improved the chances of him being caught up. Huge fecking hypothesis though :lol:

Hammondo · Sep 2, 2018

Random Task said:
The defender had his arms all over Lukaku, if the Lukaku goes down it's a penalty without question, but he chose to stay up instead.

He did go down, he was useless.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Did I say it was specifically about that? He is your countryman, is he not? How precious are you?

So do tell what made you think I thought about my country ? Seems like you're clutching at straws

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

kouroux said:
What has it got to do with France again ? Is Pogba not a Man Utd player first ? You're really weird man. Besides you took that comment way too seriously

Same in every match thread it seems. Will constantly reply and berate

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

kouroux said:
So do tell what made you think I thought about my country ? Seems like you're clutching at straws

Erm, nothing? It’s like at this point you’re trying to be offended. You’re bizarre.

kouroux · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
Same in every match thread it seems. Will constantly reply and berate

I see. Not gonna bother replying to him anymore. I shouldn't even have in the first place.

JPRouve · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Did I say it was specifically about that? He is your countryman, is he not? How precious are you?

I’m taking things too seriously? You’ve just got “pissed off” because I said you and Pogba are both French. Some people will get upset about anything.

To be fair, I wondered when he denied an assist against France. :lol:

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

JPRouve said:
To be fair, I wondered when he denied an assist against France.

Eh?

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
The intelligent play would've been to go right past the keeper, away from the defender. He played into trouble.
RVP, Ruud, Ole Gunnar, Rooney in his prime...I'd bet on them to finish it. Pause the game as Lukaku gets put through and I'd bet on him to miss.

But they’ve all, without a exception, missed those situations, haven’t they? As I said before, if Mee hadn’t fouled him, would you be questioning his decision making?

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
But they’ve all, without a exception, missed those situations, haven’t they? As I said before, if Mee hadn’t fouled him, would you be questioning his decision making?

If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike

JPRouve · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Eh?

Read the last sentence of your post, you wrote country instead of countryman which led me to wonder when that happened.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike

Which would be a great point, if you weren’t talking about what Lukaku could’ve done instead. Pot. Kettle. Black.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

JPRouve said:
Read the last sentence of your post, you wrote country instead of countryman which led me to wonder when that happened.

Ah ok. In that case apologies!

VeevaVee · Sep 2, 2018

ivaldo said:
Which would be a great point, if you weren’t talking about what Lukaku could’ve done instead. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yes ok. No idea what you're on about. Ciao

DomesticTadpole · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
Yes ok. No idea what you're on about. Ciao

We won. It's delirium.

ivaldo · Sep 2, 2018

VeevaVee said:
Yes ok. No idea what you're on about. Ciao

Give google a whirl.

DomesticTadpole · Sep 2, 2018

I actually like Fellaini's locks blond.

Janson · Sep 2, 2018

Fracture90 said:
Just like everyone else ,eh?

I think you're the only one.

RedSky · Sep 2, 2018

el3mel said:
Doesn't matter because Lukaku will shoot off the target anyway.

RedSky said:
Probably a good game for us to bounce back tbh against a Burnley team that's struggling. We're away too so there's going to be slightly less pressure on the players.

el3mel said:
Don't have much hope anyway. Think I entered "don't give a feck" mood of LVG last season.

See, no problemo. Watford on the other hand is going to be tough.

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