If Smalling or Rojo would be available then yes......so Fletcher will play again in midfield
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at this stage, id rather Pereira gets a chance rather than Cleverly. If he is indeed on the way.At least tomorrow will give us a better indication of who's going and who's not.
Cleverley, Kagawa and Hernandez won't be on the bench, which will probably confirm that they are indeed leaving.As much as I think Anderson is a waste of space, IF he were to play tomorrow and IF he put some effort in he actually would do okay with ADM and Mata etc because he can pass at a high tempo but again it is a big IF.Btw what ever happend to Reece James?
Played against MK Dons and was a bit meh?
Indeed, wouldn't be so bad like that actually. Instructions to Fletcher and Cleverley: 'Just pass the ball to Di Maria, not each other.'So Cleverly haven't been sold right. I guess he will play tomorrow sadly. Cleverly and Fletch again on the midfield
Injuries is what is killing us more right now.
I hope we play tomorrow in a 4312 than a 3412. If Cleverly and Fletcher are going to play again tomorrow hopefully is something like this.
I really dont know who else can play on Clev and Fletch position right now. Evans even though he didn't play well again MK our only other option there is Michael Keane as Smalling is injured and Rojo don't have the work permit.
DDG
Rafael___Jones___Evans___Blacket
Fletcher
Cleverly__________Di Maria
Mata
RVP_________Rooney
Thats right he did..was shite too. Id almost blocked that out of my headThinking Van Gaal will persist with 3-5-2.
----------------De Gea-----------------
-------Jones----Evans----Blackett------
--Rafael---Fletcher---Di Maria---Young--
----------------Mata------------------
----------Rooney--Van Persie---------no choice but to play the 3 at the back still really. Shaw and Rojo aren't available, so only option for left back otherwise would be Blackett.
Surely we can't field Di Maria, Mata, VP and Rooney and still play badly!
Your IF clauses have a zero probability of happening.I'm excited for this game. I really am. United is going to perform good. We'll win. 0-4.---------------De Gea----------------
Rafael----Jones------Blackett-----Evans
--------------Fletcher----------------
-------Valencia--------Di Maria---------
----------------Mata------------------
----------Rooney--Van Persie---------
I think Valencia's player RCM once or twice for us in a 3 man midfield before, or at least for his national team, so using him there in desperation
Likewise, Evans has played LB a few times a while back
Would rather have Jones at DM, but really struggling for defenders
thanks mystic meg
This is actually a great idea. Valencia in a box to box midfield role? Could be interesting and he'd still be more effective than Cleverley there. Only change I would make is switching Blackett with Evans. Blackett has played as a LB many times and Evans is decent playing in a back four. In a back three, he is woeful and has been ever since we started playing with this system.Is this on BT or Sky ?I'm seeing Rafael on everyones line up, is he back from injury?
LVG said he's injured.Got to say. Not looking forward to playing Burnley tomorrow. I'm marrying a fan in a few weeks and I can imagine the 6 fingered, pie eating helmets on my case on the big day. 4 3 3 please louie.
Van Gaal said today that he is injured along with Johnstone, Smalling and Shaw. There are apparently 6 other injuries also - Carrick, Herrera, Lingard, Kagawa, Fellaini, ???. Rojo was considered the 11th (unavailable).Giggs?Hope for 4-4-2 and for feck sake take 3 Points!
Giggs is on bench!I still think the 3-5-2 can work, especially with Di Maria. The Problem is without a doubt our Defense or better our Defenders.
Everyone is laughing at us now, but we only lost 1 Game and 1 Draw in the League, thats nothing.
We have 10 Injuries, Im sure the most injured Player who is hurting us is without a doubt herrera.
We will win this game, I have no doubt, and after the 2Weeks break, we will be even better.
Keep faith its just 1 Draw and 1Lose!Fully expect Generic English-Surname Midfielder #1 and #2 to dominate us tomorrow. You just know it's going to happen.Faith is here seens 1970´s but my heart is older!Looking forward to this one, Di Maria to inspire the lads on to a convincing victory. 4-1 and our league campaign well and truly off and running!
And let us all say: AMENI wonder why we were not interested in van Ginkel. He was available for a reasonable fee.Folks should stop putting fancy 442 diamond or 433 formations up. It will be 352 for a while, if not all seasonOur season starts tomorrow.
0-3 United.
So then you belive it will be a Di Maria Herrera partnership for this season?I don't believe Di Maria will be very effective in a two man midfield and thus I think we're going to bring in someone like De Jong/Carvalho/Bender or whoever it might be to partner Herrera, specially if we are getting rid of Cleverley.The partnership between Di Maria/Herrera would see us getting overrun when not in possession as despite the danger they will pose going forward and Di Maria's effective pressing, he simply does not get stuck in enough as a midfielder and hence why Madrid used him in a 3 man midfield where both of the others are capable of covering for him. Imagine how this midfield would fare defensively against the top teams in the league, for instance?
Where else would that leave Di Maria in a 3-5-2? As a wing back which is a massive waste of his talent, a no10 which would mean Mata being dropped or a striker which would mean one of Rooney/Rvp has to be dropped. Besides, he is not a natural goal-scorer and thus wouldn't be very effective as a striker anyway. If we do get a decent defensive midfielder I don't see any reason to stick with the 3-5-2 whatsoever to be honest as a 4-4-2 diamond would be the best way to utilise all of our best players along with playing a system in which our defence is much more comfortable and where our numbers there are not as much of a problem.
It doesn't have to be a 4-4-2 diamond but the 3-5-2 really will be a waste of the talent of our now best player. I see us changing it as soon and if LVG brings in a DMF as I said. He was playing a 4-4-2 in Bayern and was also raving on about how he believes in his philosophy but his philosophy stretches to a lot more things than just the formation. He changed the formation immediately to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 straight after the aqqusition of Robben and I don't see why he wouldn't do the same here. No one knows what will happen and you shouldn't act as if you do.Last edited:Going of training pics it seems real possible Fatson starts with Fletcher.Think we need to go 4--4-2 get a result and back to drawing board over the international break whilst injuries clear up and some more minutes on training ground are in.
If that means Rooney alongside Fletcher in middle so be it..Going of training pics it seems real possible Fatson starts with Fletcher.
Gosh & Blimey etc,
I dare you to leak this news on to the A*ders*n thread.)
It'll be great when he surprises us all, though,, won't it?
Can't be much worse than Clev, surely...Going of training pics it seems real possible Fatson starts with Fletcher.
Either way, there's no excuse tomorrow, we have to beat them, other teams have injuries as well. Excited to see Di Maria for the first time with our team, I'm sure he'll give them a big boost wether he starts or not.
What is the confirmed injury situation?
Fellaini, Smalling, Herrera, Shaw +Rojo surely missing? Rafael, Welbeck, Evans fit maybe?I think I say this for us all when I say .... surely it can't get worse Anyone Caf members here going tomorrow?
I agree with all that. Doesnt mean lvg will change it. Fwiw i dont think we will get another midfielder. I agree ADM in a midfield two is not good, but lvg is intent on the 352 being best overall. He said ADM may mean they can change the system, but he also said that this was a process. That means it will take time. Which is why i said itwill be here for a while, because lvg said it would.
Assuming no more purchases. If we went 433 ADM could be on the left of the cetre 3 as he wwas at madrid, but we do not have the wingers necessary to fill the two wide positions, lvg has already said that, ironically name dropping ADM as a winger for that system. So, we could put ADM on the wing in a 433, but then we do not have the midfielders for the 3 in the centre, we only have 4 cm's (assuming clev and ando go) that isnt deep enough squad to always use the 433.
If we get another midfielder this will probably change.
But we havent, we probably wont. So when i say this, its not because im acting as if i 'know what will happen' i'm just listening to what lvg has said on a number of occasions.
I suggest you do the same, stop clasping your hands over your ears shaking your head and muttering to yourself 'but the diamond...the diamond will work!. Gosh & Blimey etc,
I dare you to leak this news on to the A*ders*n thread.)
It'll be great when he surprises us all, though,, won't it?
Surprises us by how much he has regressed? That this player once had Fabregas in his pocket!- Status
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Phil Jones
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David de Gea
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Tyler Blackett
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Anderson
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Antonio Valencia
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Ashley Young
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- Man Utd win
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Detailed Results
- 17% Burnley 1:2 Man Utd
- 12% Burnley 0:2 Man Utd
- 11% Burnley 1:3 Man Utd
- 10% Burnley 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% Burnley 5:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats
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- Possession
- 36% 64%
- Shots
- 9 7
- Shots on Target
- 3 2
- Corners
- 3 6
- Fouls
- 10 14
Referee
Chris Foy
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