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    Eriku

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    We were the better team in general. Until we scored and played laughably badly. A draw, in that context, is a fair result. But we shot ourselves in the foot over the last 15 minutes or so.
    There's no chance that we were the better team in the 2nd half of the first 45. But whatever, clearly we just saw things differently.
     

    The United Irishman

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    We are rubbish in every department except for our goalkeeper who is one of the best in the world, in my yes he's the only thing that didn't lose us this game against a team who are shite, low in confidence! Who still thinks Smalling is the BPL's best CB? he made so many mistakes tonight I don't see it myself I think he's a gangly feck up if I'm honest!
     

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    I agree, but all in all the young guy has played very well since coming in. Looks a great prospect, he is still learning obviously. I am happy with him.
    Oh, I am happy too.

    Just that he's building his experience in the back four.
     

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    Yeah, it's a shame for CBJ, just as the line steps up, he's looking towards Martial and not paying attention, which made the difference. A real shame cos he'd been excellent. This is where experience makes a difference, those small margins that make a big difference.
     

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    We can at least say that this was a better and different United in the last two games.
     

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    Great init. Welcome to football
    Welcome to football indeed.

    Reason why I call out that Daley Blind push, for one it was foolish and unnecessary, we just scored. Worse he gets a yellow and has to play with more caution. Worse still, they get a spot of possession after we were in control, they get corners from it and get more encouragement. That Blind shove and yellow was perhaps a turning point for the rest of the game.

    Great init pal. Welcome to football.
     

    The United Irishman

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    Welcome to football indeed.

    Reason why I call out that Daley Blind push, for one it was foolish and unnecessary, we just scored. Worse he gets a yellow and has to play with more caution. Worse still, they get a spot of possession after we were in control, they get corners from it and get more encouragement. That Blind and shove and yellow was perhaps a turning point for the rest of the game.

    Great init pal. Welcome to football.
    When the feck were we ever in control?
     

    Eriku

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    Excuse me?...
    Hm? I quoted the post that I was replying to you. I'm just saying that if you're THAT annoyed with how we play in this match, you must have been foaming at the mouth during most of our autumn, when we were the most boring team in the entire league, and by some margin.
     

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    LVG has no idea how substitutions work. There was no need to bring in Memphis. He gave away the ball cheaply when he should have taken the ball to the corner and held it up. Also Mata staying for 90 mins doesn't make any sense. His game should have been over at 70 mins and Herrera should have been brought on long ago. At least he holds the ball up better than Mata and could have released Martial and Rooney. LVG clearly needs to be sacked because he's clearly inept at his job. Mourinho would have won us this game by shutting up shop.
     

    The United Irishman

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    Hm? I quoted the post that I was replying to you. I'm just saying that if you're THAT annoyed with how we play in this match, you must have been foaming at the mouth during most of our autumn, when we were the most boring team in the entire league, and by some margin.
    No I've been foaming at the mouth for most matches I've watched for the last 12 months..I don't mean to offend you but I'm just displaying my opinion on how bad we really are ..and I'm sick of hearing the same old shite regurgitated out by people on here week after week!
     

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    Memphis ahhh that stupid shit. IMO before cbj covering the offside all the blame must be on that Memphis who lost an easy fecking pass.

    Again, a good coach wouldn't lost that game this way. Bring Mourinho.
     

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    No I've been foaming at the mouth for most matches I've watched for the last 12 months..I don't mean to offend you but I'm just displaying my opinion on how bad we really are ..and I'm sick of hearing the same old shite regurgitated out by people on here week after week!
    I'm far from offended, I just found it curious that you say this in a game that's coming in the middle of a decent streak, compared to the dross that's been served up so far this season.

    And 12 months? You blanking on last spring, where we had a red-hot streak where we smashed City, Tottenham and Liverpool comfortably? Well, Liverpool was 2-1 in the end, but I've never seen us dominate like that at Anfield.
     

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    So fecking pissed. What the f*ck was that in the final 20 minutes? We absolutely battered them between the start of the second half and Lingard's goal, yet parked the bus immediately after scoring instead of pushing on for a second goal. The sitting back wasn't working as we didn't even have a single counterattack. This constant pressure almost always pays off, especially when it's for 20-25 minutes. Absolutely fecking idiotic stuff and a predictable equalizer.

    Memphis can feck off as well. He can't do the basics so doesn't really deserve to play. What a disappointment he's been.

    These last minute equalizers are so fecking frustrating, it makes my blood boil. I'm not sure how much last-minute goals we've conceded this season, but it feels like it happenes every other game. It's as if some fecking cnutface has writter the script for this season just so things go in the most fecked up way.

    ps: Michael Oliver is an infuriating cnut.
     

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    LVG has no idea how substitutions work. There was no need to bring in Memphis. He gave away the ball cheaply when he should have taken the ball to the corner and held it up. Also Mata staying for 90 mins doesn't make any sense. His game should have been over at 70 mins and Herrera should have been brought on long ago. At least he holds the ball up better than Mata and could have released Martial and Rooney. LVG clearly needs to be sacked because he's clearly inept at his job. Mourinho would have won us this game by shutting up shop.
    That's exactly came to my mind. Depay is a fecking wasted Mata is a big question mark really.
     

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    Memphis ahhh that stupid shit. IMO before cbj covering the offside all the blame must be on that Memphis who lost an easy fecking pass.

    Again, a good coach wouldn't lost that game this way. Bring Mourinho.
    We didn't lose, mate. And we've seen this kind of stuff under Fergie too, you know.
     

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    I think you need to watch the highlights chap.
    From watching the game today, I thought the only reason we even came away with a point was because of the saves from DDG - he was MOTM for me. However, I accept my view may be skewed. I will have to watch MOTD tonight and get back to you. :)
     

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    I'm far from offended, I just found it curious that you say this in a game that's coming in the middle of a decent streak, compared to the dross that's been served up so far this season.

    And 12 months? You blanking on last spring, where we had a red-hot streak where we smashed City, Tottenham and Liverpool comfortably? Well, Liverpool was 2-1 in the end, but I've never seen us dominate like that at Anfield.
    Rubbish we were playing drab possession football the whole time, granted we beat City and beat Liverpool at Anfield a couple of false dawns my friend, a lot of us had seen it and kept us happy maybe, sideways backwards shit over and over again im sorry im done i cant even be bothred using propr grammer anymore
     

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    There's no chance that we were the better team in the 2nd half of the first 45. But whatever, clearly we just saw things differently.
    For two-thirds of both halfs United played better. Chelsea was better in the last 15 minutes of the first half and dominated the game after they conceded.

    It's a shame that when United goes up, they can't play the possession game.

    We never know why certain substitutions are made. But I felt Herrera for Mata should have been made earlier.

    Two errors led to the tying goal. Blind over committed and Cameron didn't read that stupid move and kept Costa onside.
     

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    We didn't lose, mate. And we've seen this kind of stuff under Fergie too, you know.
    Yes sorry felt like we lost I mean we did lost 2 important points.
    But SAF IMO wouldn't let that happen specifically against this shit Chelsea side.
     

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    Goodness, people are certainly not seeing it my way today, huh? In due order:

    Rubbish we were playing drab possession football the whole time, granted we beat City and beat Liverpool at Anfield a couple of false dawns my friend, a lot of us had seen it and kept us happy maybe, sideways backwards shit over and over again im sorry im done i cant even be bothred using propr grammer anymore
    We might not have looked like Barcelona, but we were certainly not drab in those matches. Spring saw most people optimistic, as I recall. Fair play if you really didn't feel that way at the time.

    For two-thirds of both halfs United played better. Chelsea was better in the last 15 minutes of the first half and dominated the game after they conceded.

    It's a shame that when United goes up, they can't play the possession game.

    We never know why certain substitutions are made. But I felt Herrera for Mata should have been made earlier.

    Two errors led to the tying goal. Blind over committed and Cameron didn't read that stupid move and kept Costa onside.
    After 20 or so mins Chelsea found their feet in the first half, and we looked like shit after the 70 minute mark, giving Chelsea a solid 26 mins of domination, that's far from us having two thirds of it.

    I completely agree though, it's absolutely sickening to see us completely forget how to not invite pressure after we go ahead :(

    Yes sorry felt like we lost I mean we did lost 2 important points.
    But SAF IMO wouldn't let that happen specifically against this shit Chelsea side.
    That we certainly did... and we've lost to NON LEAGUE sides under Fergie (with Ronaldo on the pitch, we weren't fielding academy youngsters). We gave up a 3-0 lead against Liverpool under Fergie. We lost 6-1 to City under Fergie. I mean, his career has been longer than most, and you'll see all sorts of stuff happen in that time, but to take this tone that LvG is spectacularly shit for not having us see out a lead against Chelsea at the Bridge (shit or not, it's not as if we're world-beaters these days) is a bit of an overreaction to me. We should have done better, but to say that any decent coach would never see this happen is patently false.
     

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    I Blame LVG for sitting in the dugout as if nothing was going on in the field. It baffles me how Chelsea had over 90% possession in the last 20 mins and LVG did shit about it and made it worse by keeping Mata on who is a complete passenger when we are not keeping ball and bringing the useless Memphis on who is least interested in playing football.
     

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    Goodness, people are certainly not seeing it my way today, huh? In due order:



    We might not have looked like Barcelona, but we were certainly not drab in those matches. Spring saw most people optimistic, as I recall. Fair play if you really didn't feel that way at the time.



    After 20 or so mins Chelsea found their feet in the first half, and we looked like shit after the 70 minute mark, giving Chelsea a solid 26 mins of domination, that's far from us having two thirds of it.

    I completely agree though, it's absolutely sickening to see us completely forget how to not invite pressure after we go ahead :(



    That we certainly did... and we've lost to NON LEAGUE sides under Fergie (with Ronaldo on the pitch, we weren't fielding academy youngsters). We gave up a 3-0 lead against Liverpool under Fergie. We lost 6-1 to City under Fergie. I mean, his career has been longer than most, and you'll see all sorts of stuff happen in that time, but to take this tone that LvG is spectacularly shit for not having us see out a lead against Chelsea at the Bridge (shit or not, it's not as if we're world-beaters these days) is a bit of an overreaction to me. We should have done better, but to say that any decent coach would never see this happen is patently false.
    Eriku I commend your positive attitude, I really do, and this team needs more of it, but we are not the team you think we are!
     

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    Eriku I commend your positive attitude, I really do, and this team needs more of it, but we are not the team you think we are!
    I think you're misreading me. I was very dismayed with the way we set out this season, because we clearly didn't build on how we played during Spring. I am just saying that there's been a bit of an improvement in the past three matches, and that it's strange to read comments that make it seem like we're on the same path as we have been all season, when we clearly played with way more positivity today than we have almost all season.

    17 shots today, a good number of dangerous crosses, we were barely winning the possession game, so clearly we weren't cuddling the ball and getting nothing done with it (well, obviously, keeping in mind how the second half went).

    I was thinking that we were just in a bit of a rut and that we'd be better off staying on with Louie, but I've been questioning that big time, and prior to our recent streak I broke and said that we'd be better off getting rid. So don't make me out to be a cheerleader.
     

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    I Blame LVG for sitting in the dugout as if nothing was going on in the field. It baffles me how Chelsea had over 90% possession in the last 20 mins and LVG did shit about it and made it worse by keeping Mata on who is a complete passenger when we are not keeping ball and bringing the useless Memphis on who is least interested in playing football.
    The most animated he got was after the final whistle when he went moaning at the 4th official, get your arse up off the bench and do your job when the team needs you to make a change. Has he ever made a good substitution? So infuriating.

    93% possession in the last 20 mins is criminal, why couldn't we string together a few passes?
     

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    Yep. I am very impressed from him this season and mistakes like this are to be expected from young players.
    In some ways he's more dynamic then Shaw. He's already equaled Shaw's end product of 1 assist in his United career.
     

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    In some ways he's more dynamic then Shaw. He's already equaled Shaw's end product of 1 assist in his United career.
    Shaw's all round game both attacking wise and in defense is 3 levels above his. However Shaw cannot cross if his life is depended on it, while CBJ might have the best cross a wingback of us had since Neville retired.
     
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