You mean train wreck during his whole United career except for 3 good months last season?
FA Premier League
Fulham 0:1 Manchester United
Craven Cottage
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
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Hard to see a way back for ETH if we don't win.
Onana
AWB - Varane - Maguire - Reguilon
Amrabat - Eriksen
Bruno - Mount - Garnacho
Hojlund
We've been saying that for monthsWhy havent we seen a return of Bruno to a deeper role where he played a few times last season. It would leave room for mount or eriksen in the more advanced role.
Eg...Amrabat/Bruno/Mount
This is from the athletic as recently as april
'One of the more eye-catching aspects of Erik ten Hag’s first year at Manchester United has been his problem-solving on the go by tactically re-profiling his players.
If management is like trying to build an aircraft while flying, then Ten Hag has spent parts of this season not sitting in the cockpit but on the fuselage, trying to craft the landing gear into a propeller.
Defender Luke Shaw’s left-footedness has been used to maintain balance in the centre of defence. Wout Weghorst’s ability to drop and link play briefly brought something different to the No 10 role. Jadon Sancho’s reintegration was helped by moving inside into the same position so that he was surrounded by more team-mates.
However, one of the most interesting re-deployments of all has been the shifting around of Bruno Fernandes, a player who has always had a strong claim to being United’s most important and influential play-maker, wherever he is on the pitch.
At the turn of the year, Fernandes started appearing on the right wing. More recently, during the enforced absences of Christian Eriksen (due to an ankle injury) and Casemiro (due to a four-game domestic suspension), Fernandes has enjoyed a recent spell in central midfield.
His performances from this deeper position have been met by rave reviews — not least from the United manager himself.
“When you miss (Eriksen and Casemiro), you have to find a solution to bring up from the back, to get the build-up in, to progress the ball and to attack,” Ten Hag said after last weekend’s 2-0 win over Everton. “We found the idea to bring Bruno down more deeper and he is doing brilliant. I think he is playing really good games.”I really can't be arsed to get out of bed for this one.
I disagree. The players need to knuckle down and perform like the highly paid pros they are.
It’s on them.You could honestly put all the players’ names in a hat and draw them out to determine what your starting lineup is. I honestly couldn’t care less what the team is because that lot don’t care themselves whenever they step out onto that pitch. Going to give the game a miss anyways. Catch up on a few tv series and play Spider-Man 2 on the PS5. More enjoyable than watching this lot play like a bunch of strangers that have never played a game of football before.
Bayindir, Dalot, Evans, Hannibal, Mount, Mainoo, Pellistri, Martial, Garnacho
Onana
AWB - Varane - Maguire - Reguilon
Amrabat
McTominay - Eriksen
B.Fernandes
Højlund - Rashford
Fulham 0-2 Manchester United (more in hope than expectation - trying to add some bit of positivity to my post
)Last edited:I will be back from work and want to sleep when this game starts. I definitely won't skip my sleeping hours for the current Man United. Honestly kinda glad I have an excuse to skip this game. I don't care about the result as I'm pretty sure we will play like shit regardless even if we manage to scrap a win.Naturally pessimistic atm but I’d like to see this:
Onana
AWB-Varane-Maguire-Reguilon
Amrabat-Casemiro
Antony-Bruno-Rashford
Hojlund
I think we’ll need all the steel we can get in midfield. Casemiro might have lost his legs but he’s still far more effective both defensively and in attack (scores goals) compared to Erisken. I’d rather he was the B2B with Amrabat sitting. Hopefully McTominay and Garnacho away from the starting XI.Could be a historical match today in that a loss will definitely get a sack for EtH and set the record of the worst United first division start in 70-odd years.Ok I have been negative enough. Let's smash these guys and get to a positive goal difference in the league table.Have a feeling we'll see something like
Onana
AWB Varane Maguire Reguilon
Amrabat Eriksen
Bruno McTom Rashford
Hojlund
Shaw doubtful seriously who writes these.....................VS.....................
Date: Saturday, November 04 2023
Kickoff Time: 1230 Hrs GMT
Venue: Craven Cottage, West London
League Standings And Form Guide
8. Manchester United: WLWWL
14. Fulham: DLWLD
Previous League Meetings
Manchester United 2—1 Fulham
Fulham 1—2 Manchester United
Manchester United 1—0 Fulham
Fulham 1—2 Manchester United
Fulham 0—3 Manchester United
All-Time League Record
Manchester United wins: 47
Fulham wins: 12
Draws: 15
Pre-Match Pressers
Erik ten Hag
Marco Silva
Team News
Manchester United
Lisandro Martínez, Tyrell Malacia, Amad Diallo, Casemiro and Jadon Sancho ruled out. Luke Shaw doubtful.
Fulham
Issa Diop and Tosin Adarabioyo ruled out. Kenny Tete and Adama Traoré doubtful.
Know The Opposition
Fulham Football Club (also known as The Cottagers or The Whites), is a professional association football club based in Fulham, West London, England. Fulham were formed in 1879 as Fulham St Andrew's Church Sunday School F.C., founded by worshipers (mostly adept at cricket) at the Church of England on Star Road, West Kensington (St Andrew's, Fulham Fields). Fulham's mother church still stands today with a plaque commemorating the team's foundation. They won the West London Amateur Cup in 1887 and, having shortened the name from Fulham Excelsior to its present form in 1888, they then won the West London League in 1893 at the first attempt.
Fulham started playing at their current ground at Craven Cottage in 1896, their first game against now defunct rivals Minerva. Fulham are one of the oldest established clubs in southern England currently playing professional football, though there are many non-league sides like Kent side Cray Wanderers who are several decades older. The club gained professional status on 12 December 1898, the same year that they were admitted into the Southern League's Second Division. They were the second club from London to turn professional, following Arsenal, then named Royal Arsenal 1891.
After suffering relegation to The Championship in 2013, Fulham have been on a road to recovery and were promoted to the Premier League on 26 May 2018, by winning 1–0 in the 2018 EFL Championship play-off Final against Aston Villa. Fulham fans consider their main rivals to be Chelsea, followed by Queens Park Rangers. They also have rivalries with other London clubs, including Brentford and Crystal Palace.
Referee
John Brooks.
Familiar Faces
Andreas Pereira (2014—22)
a relegation 6 pointer
Yeah when we had another defensive injury crisis,if memory serves me right wasn't Carrick a CB but can't think who other wasSeen somewhere we haven’t lost to Fulham since 2009?
Bruno on the right and McT starting and I might not watch a single fecking minuteI thought it was a rule that you couldn’t play 12:30 if you played on a Wednesday night?
I saw somewhere that Casemiro will be out for a couple weeks?
Anyway glad to have Shaw back. Hope he can start soon we really miss him.
The way the team have been performing this season I think they probably feel the same
But hopefully the players will be.This quote should be posted on the dressing room door at United (and maybe on one or two of the players...)
"Brian Clough's advice to me before most games was: 'You get it, you pass it to another player in a red shirt'. That's really all I've tried to do at Forest and United — pass and move — and I've made a career out of it."
Roy Keane.
We don't have a player in the squad who can pass as well as Keane could, let alone show as much determination to win games.
On the other hand a win makes ETH the quickest any United manager has gotten to 50 wins in historyOn the other hand a win makes ETH the quickest any United manager has gotten to 50 wins in history
that's a hilarious dichotomyOn the other hand a win makes ETH the quickest any United manager has gotten to 50 wins in history
ETH surely does not do draws some might think that's naive but I kinda like it.
Crazy statsOn the other hand a win makes ETH the quickest any United manager has gotten to 50 wins in history
3-0.
How many fans? Have you done a survey?Oddly I think we'll do quite well today.
Even a broken clock is right sometimes.
Maybe that's today
You could have saved a few minutes there and just said this.
Brighton and us are two very different teams. You have a team that works together and have good ideas how to move the ball within the team.
We couldn`t string 3 passes together even without opponents, nevermind a decent prem side like Fulham. Fulham will see no need to resort to dirty tactics against us. More likely to come from us when our players gets frustrated at how easy they get to our penalty box all the time.We'll probably win this one, Fulham will think it's going to be easy and not turn up.
Seasons we compete in the Europa League really skew all the stats for players and managers because of the sheer number of games and the quality of the opposition.On the other hand a win makes ETH the quickest any United manager has gotten to 50 wins in history
Throw in the very favourable domestic cup fixtures last season and it's not hard to see why we picked up a good number of wins without ever really looking convincing in the league.Is it international break yet?
It won't though.Sacking EtH will be madness. We just have to work through this shite results. We will turn things around .I watch the games on virgintvgo, via the PC and since a recent upgrade, live football on TNT has been choppy and hard to watch, so if there is also one of their regular droaners on the commentary team too, I won't be watching. Even if United win, it'll be little relief from the overall spectacle.
After next weekend.
Can't come soon enough.D day today. Lose, and I think he gets the sack on Monday.
Think that's only really applied ro European games.
Gonna batter this lot today, I can feel it.
0-4- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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13%
Andre Onana
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13%
Bruno Fernandes
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9%
Alejandro Garnacho
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4%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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3%
Facundo Pellistri
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1%
Scott McTominay
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1%
Diogo Dalot
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1%
Jonny Evans
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 249 ratings.
Score Predictions
79,109,35
- Man Utd win
- Fulham win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 21% Fulham 2:0 Man Utd
- 17% Fulham 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Fulham 1:1 Man Utd
- 11% Fulham 2:1 Man Utd
- 9% Fulham 0:2 Man Utd
- 6% Fulham 3:0 Man Utd
- 4% Fulham 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Fulham 1:3 Man Utd
- 4% Fulham 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 3:1 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 9:0 Man Utd
- 2% Fulham 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 4:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 0:3 Man Utd
- 1% Fulham 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Fulham 9:8 Man Utd
- 0% Fulham 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Fulham 0:4 Man Utd
- 0% Fulham 6:0 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Fulham
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 45% 55%
- Shots
- 18 12
- Shots on Target
- 2 5
- Corners
- 9 4
- Fouls
- 9 15
Referee
John Brooks
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Mason Mount
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replaced by Anthony Martial
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replaced by Raphael Varane
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replaced by Facundo Pellistri
