Liverpool 0:0 Manchester United

Ban · Oct 17, 2016

I'm seriously thinking about not watching this and tracking the result on livescore.

johnny boy · Oct 17, 2016

RobinLFC said:
No way? Feck me 2/3 of our midfield out in the most important game of the season so far..

Hendo more advanced with Can in for Wijnaldum but replacing Lallana is difficult. You'd need to bring Coutinho in and shift Firmino out wide to play Sturridge or something like that but I don't want to change anything about our front three.

May be nothing in it. It's been said the rumour is Wijnaldum and Lallana won't be fit and one is being replaced by Milner - which must mean Moreno at left back.
But....I stress this is just a rumour doing the rounds.

Tom Van Persie · Oct 17, 2016

#07 said:
It really was @Tom Van Persie:

This is JuAnfield.

Amazing performance!

That pass from Herrera

Zoo · Oct 17, 2016

Lallana has had his hair done specially which could suggest he'll make it for tonight.

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dwd · Oct 17, 2016

Zoo said:
Lallana has had his done specially which could suggest he'll make it for tonight.

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Looks like he got mangles in the geggenpress.

Scholesy · Oct 17, 2016

Would not be comfortable with the front 6 of Henderson and Genie as their CM...basically all out attack which would cause us trouble and if they score first, game over

I hope it is a donkey like Can and Henderson. Then we may have a chance.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 17, 2016

Luke Shaw HAS travelled with the squad

Luke Shaw hasn’t been involved since the 3-1 defeat to Watford last month. Jose Mourinhosaid he was fit and it has been confirmed that he has travelled to Liverpool with the rest of the squad.

Tribec · Oct 17, 2016

VP89 said:
I disagree. I think he handles pressing teams well by maintaining composure and winning back the tempo of the game to our favour. Assured legs is what you need alongside an energetic midfield when facing high press teams. Not just erratic pairs of legs running everywhere like headless chickens.

If you had Herrera and Pogba as the box to box players (with Pogba given a role to join the attack when we have the ball), then Carrick can do a great job making sure the opposition doesn't dictate tempo, and maintaining ball retention even when under pressure from the opposition. West Ham last year comes to mind - last ever home game for the opposition, and we looked a completely different team when someone as assured as Carrick was on to steady the ship. Up until then we were batting around like headless chickens.

Carrick has been a great player for us, but for me the Champions League final in Rome, showed not only us how good Barca were, but how Carrick crumbles when a team presses him. We've had numerous occasions since then that it's happened, and at times it can be said that we've been over ran in the middle of the pitch, but he just doesn't play well when pressed. His first touch which is normally so assured, is wayward, he tends to dally on the ball a second or two longer than he should and his general lack of pace is highlighted. He makes a great sub, but that's it right now, certainly not a starter.

GE · Oct 17, 2016

Rafateria said:
What an inane comment. I haven't seen any Liverpool supporter, either here or on the other forum I inhabit (not Rawk !) spouting such shite. Everyone this side of the Pennines (whether in Manchester or Liverpool) is shiting it, nobody really believes it's a foregone conclusion either way ... and history has proven that in matches between United & Liverpool that is oh so true.

What the hell are you talking about? I said media not bloody Internet forums. There is life outside the World Wide Web, you know.

I also have a fair few friends and family members who support Liverpool and they are ALL expecting their side to roast United tonight.

I was even offered a £20 bet this morning from my own jolly confident Liverpool supporting father who has climbed out the woodwork in recent weeks.

togg · Oct 17, 2016

GifLord said:
Hoping for a win... But who am i kidding

I feel as though I'm waiting for the verdict at a trial. Hoping for a not guilty but also realising there is quite a bit of circumstancial evidence against me!

Must keep my dignity regardless

Sassy Colin · Oct 17, 2016

The stage is set for Zlatan, this is the sort of big occasion that he will love.

I don't see a Berbatrick, but I can see him getting more than 1, if he gets the right service.

Sarni · Oct 17, 2016

cyberman said:
High rollers use these sites all the time though. John Higgins is a fecking snooker player and he just rang up bookies using his vip account to place ridiculous size bets.
Isn't it that they minitor for the consistant long odds winners rather than the big wagers on obvious bets?
They would hardly baulk at 10k when they have millions placed already and lay them off at the exchange.

Yeah but they have policies about maximum bet size for normal people. Well, since he apparently owns a multi-million marketing agency in 4 of the most expensive cities in the world (Los Angeles, London, Singapore and Sydney) and employs loads of people at 25, he might actually have a VIP account as you say.

RobinLFC · Oct 17, 2016

VanGaalEra said:
I'm surprised you're not more worried by the fact that post mentions Moreno at LB.

The "No way? Feck me

" part was about Moreno playing but I can see why that wasn't clear, apologies. We're doomed if he plays, but I hope Klopp is smart enough to know that by now. We need our backline intact for tonight: Clyne, Matip, Lovren and Milner, nothing else.

Jacko21 · Oct 17, 2016

Quote from Mourinho:

"We want to stop them scoring and the best way to do this is with 11 men and to score we want to be dominant, have the ball and this is what we are doing. It won't be the same as last season where Liverpool had a lot of shots on target and United had one and the result was 0-1. We still have to improve on many things, but we will continue to keep playing as we are playing. We have a certain style of play and are not going to change that."

B20 · Oct 17, 2016

Tom Van Persie said:
Getting the excuses in early?

Not much of a excuse is it? I expect a win nonetheless.

Santoryo · Oct 17, 2016

Jacko21 said:
Quote from Mourinho:

Thank feck for this statement from Mourinho. I was sure we were gonna play our own game and Mou would stick with the 4231 with Mata. Now I'm even more confident that's how it'll be.

People are busy getting worried how they'll score against us but forget with have an attacking force to do the same.

MartialsBeard · Oct 17, 2016

Santoryo said:
Thank feck for this statement from Mourinho. I was sure we were gonna play our own game and Mou would stick with the 4231 with Mata. Now I'm even more confident that's how it'll be.

People are busy getting worried how they'll score against us but forget with have an attacking force to do the same.

I'm not so confident, our team hasn't clicked yet and this is the one time we should go there to shut up shop. This could get very very messy indeed, usually managers will have similar quotes and say something like "we know their qualities but we need to play our own game and be confident, we know their weaknesses and we will try to exploit them".....full time comes and you've lost 4-0 because you wanted to "play your game", don't play your game, play the game that wins.

Attila · Oct 17, 2016

Martial Ibra Mkhitaryan
Pogba Herrera Fellaini
Shaw Blind Bailly Valencia
De Gea

I would like that team today

Moonred · Oct 17, 2016

Attila said:
Martial Ibra Mkhitaryan
Pogba Herrera Fellaini
Shaw Blind Bailly Valencia
De Gea

I would like that team today

Mkhitaryan hasn't travelled I think.

VP89 · Oct 17, 2016

Tribec said:
Carrick has been a great player for us, but for me the Champions League final in Rome, showed not only us how good Barca were, but how Carrick crumbles when a team presses him. We've had numerous occasions since then that it's happened, and at times it can be said that we've been over ran in the middle of the pitch, but he just doesn't play well when pressed. His first touch which is normally so assured, is wayward, he tends to dally on the ball a second or two longer than he should and his general lack of pace is highlighted. He makes a great sub, but that's it right now, certainly not a starter.

Terribly unfair to point to Rome for Carrick's form when he had to partner a 34 year old Ryan Giggs in the middle of the pitch. I'm talking about him playing a holding role in controlling the tempo of the game and maintaining composure. He'd have two youthful runners either side of him, its completely different to Rome.

Escobar · Oct 17, 2016

We need 3 in midfield, especially with Liverpool pressing so much

RedMouse · Oct 17, 2016

MartialsBeard said:
I'm not so confident, our team hasn't clicked yet and this is the one time we should go there to shut up shop. This could get very very messy indeed, usually managers will have similar quotes and say something like "we know their qualities but we need to play our own game and be confident, we know their weaknesses and we will try to exploit them".....full time comes and you've lost 4-0 because you wanted to "play your game", don't play your game, play the game that wins.

Allthough we've shown a few signs of improvement in this area I still think we struggle when managers park the bus. The special one is the master and I would be 'cock a hoop' if you set up to attack and take the game to us. Personally I doubt that will happen given your away we are slight favourites and despite being successful on toast as your manager is he is prone to defensive pragmatic football

Raees · Oct 17, 2016

Agreed with whoever said Carrick is poor on the ball under pressure. He doesn't have a great history of games at Anfield either.. but the problem is we don't have many better players than him in that DM role.

This might be the right game for Blind, as we will be on the back foot and that would mean he doesn't have to cover much ground.

Blind
Herrera Pogba

AngeloHenriquez · Oct 17, 2016

DDG
Valencia Bailey Smalling Shaw
Herrera Morgan
Pogback
Rashford Ibra Martial

That's what I'd like to see..

Rafateria · Oct 17, 2016

Jacko21 said:
Quote from Mourinho:

"We want to stop them scoring and the best way to do this is with 11 men and to score we want to be dominant, have the ball and this is what we are doing. It won't be the same as last season where Liverpool had a lot of shots on target and United had one and the result was 0-1. We still have to improve on many things, but we will continue to keep playing as we are playing. We have a certain style of play and are not going to change that."

I certainly hope so, fingers crossed.

AngeloHenriquez · Oct 17, 2016

Raees said:
This might be the right game for Blind, as we will be on the back foot and that would mean he doesn't have to cover much ground.

Blind will be expected to press, I can't see him being physical enough hence I opted for Morgan..

togg · Oct 17, 2016

Probably the least confident I've been before a Pool V United game at Anfield to be honest. Not doom and gloom, just matter of factly really.

Attila · Oct 17, 2016

Moonred said:
Mkhitaryan hasn't travelled I think.

Ffs!! Thought he was back

villain · Oct 17, 2016

Wouldn't be surprised to see Lingard start to be honest.

Attila said:
Ffs!! Thought he was back

After City, and about a month out, he was never going to start this match, even less likely to feature at all.

He'll play in Europa though, then he needs to stake his claim to play in the first XI

An Irish Red · Oct 17, 2016

I'm convinced Fellaini will start, unfortunately. I think we'll win if he doesn't. If he does I don't think we have much of a chance, that's how low I rate him.

Rafateria · Oct 17, 2016

Getting very nervous now .. lots of 'official teams' flying around the interweb and SMS etc. however this is one I don't want to see (guaranteed penalty / goal to Ibra from his opponent being a midget) : Karius, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Moreno, Can, Henderson, Milner, Coutinho, Firmino, Mane.

I hope that's wrong because Milner has been excellent at LB and Can makes very decent cover for Gini in midfield with Sturridge coming in if Lallana isn't fit to start (though maybe his haircut means he is) !

Yorkeontop · Oct 17, 2016

3 games in 7 days. Give me a point to go please. I'll try my luck at the Bridge.

Klopper76 · Oct 17, 2016

Rafateria said:
Getting very nervous now .. lots of 'official teams' flying around the interweb and SMS etc. however this is one I don't want to see (guaranteed penalty / goal to Ibra from his opponent being a midget) : Karius, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Moreno, Can, Henderson, Milner, Coutinho, Firmino, Mane.

I hope that's wrong because Milner has been excellent at LB and Can makes very decent cover for Gini in midfield with Sturridge coming in if Lallana isn't fit to start (though maybe his haircut means he is) !

I'm not crazy about that team. Feels like Moreno would be exposed positionally.

Lash · Oct 17, 2016

Rafateria said:
Getting very nervous now .. lots of 'official teams' flying around the interweb and SMS etc. however this is one I don't want to see (guaranteed penalty / goal to Ibra from his opponent being a midget) : Karius, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Moreno, Can, Henderson, Milner, Coutinho, Firmino, Mane.

I hope that's wrong because Milner has been excellent at LB and Can makes very decent cover for Gini in midfield with Sturridge coming in if Lallana isn't fit to start (though maybe his haircut means he is) !

I'd find it very odd he would bring Moreno back for this game in particular. The rest of the team is pretty solid though. Maybe he'll get Mane to really help him out tracking back, i've seen him do that a fair bit for you.

RedMouse · Oct 17, 2016

Klopper76 said:
I'm not crazy about that team. Feels like Moreno would be exposed positionally.

Never understood this 'team rumour thing'.

Why would it ever leek..all the lads want to win..telling anyone the team gives United an advantage. Plus if caught doing so you may loose your job.

It's all hot air from keyboard warriors

VorZakone · Oct 17, 2016

Should be a good game. Looking forward to it.

Klopper76 · Oct 17, 2016

Lash said:
I'd find it very odd he would bring Moreno back for this game in particular. The rest of the team is pretty solid though. Maybe he'll get Mane to really help him out tracking back, i've seen him do that a fair bit for you.

Mane generally sticks to the right hand side so I think Coutinho would be the one who has to help out. That's what worries me because neither Moreno or Coutinho offer much defensively.

Liver_bird · Oct 17, 2016

Klopper76 said:
I'm not crazy about that team. Feels like Moreno would be exposed positionally.

Please god no, that team literally reduces everything that has been so good about our midfield this season so far, we play that team and we've lost before we've started.

Oneunited26 · Oct 17, 2016

You do fear the worst if we get our team and tactics wrong, but? its going to take time for us to start to become a proper team, but got to hope this team does something. If Jose does not touch the anti football fellani, and of course rooney, have someone anchor the midfield, with pogba and herrera the more central pair, with martial and rashford supporting zlaten, you never know

Carlsen19 · Oct 17, 2016

Ban said:
I'm seriously thinking about not watching this and tracking the result on livescore.

Just watch it you tart.

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