Manchester United 2:1 Chelsea

MackRobinson · Dec 6, 2023

Blaming Onana is silly. He's been fine

Josep Dowling · Dec 6, 2023

One of the only games I’ve felt we have played well and yet we’re not winning.

tomaldinho1 · Dec 6, 2023

criticalanalysis said:
Some of the Hojlund bashing is a bit weird. He's had one chance and then barely any service at all. He's been completely selfless and laid off simple but progressive balls to EVERYONE else and never gets anything back. Garnacho and McTominay are basically feeding off him but also taking all his chances and spaces.

I felt for him when he won that ball, jinked past the player onto his left and chose not to shoot as it was so far out, passed to Bruno and made a run through thinking he might get it back and Bruno just leathers one with no hope of going in.

Lay · Dec 6, 2023

I still have faith in Hojlund.

the_cliff · Dec 6, 2023

Sandikan said:
Right plater, wrong role.
He needed to be an option for a season or 2 gaining experience.
Not thrown in as the main guy.

Hence it being a terrible signing. We need goals now not potentially in 2 seasons.

Usually you sign a player like Hojlund when you have a starting, experienced goal scorer. We don't have one. We signed Hojlund for 65mill, we still don't have one....

So in what world was it a good signing ?

Bobski · Dec 6, 2023

Again how the hell did Amrabat get away with the push in the back?

Literally unbelievable.

In Rainbows · Dec 6, 2023

the_cliff said:
Cos that's where we are as a club now, signing potential for the price of proven then spending time to develop the player without challenging for any honours, we're basically a shit Dortmund.

To be fair to Dortmund when they sign potential it's not usually for 65 mill +

Sure, but this conversation was more of a conversation prior to the season. Although I'm not sure an elite striker would have done anything, but paper over the cracks with how bad the others have been. At this point with how bad we've been, I don't see how Hojlund is the wrong transfer. We know we're not going to get 3 trophies. Might as well view every match with a long term tint to it.

Let Hojlund learn from the experience. We have nothing to lose, and it's not worth getting upset over it at this point.

criticalanalysis · Dec 6, 2023

That whole sequence for Chelsea's goal 'started' with Shaw push/lifting a shit ball out wide to Garnacho, where he had no chance to do anything with as his back was towards goal and with Cucurella nipping at his heels.

Shaw always does this. Lazy passes, lazy tackles, shite positioning and awkward passing. I've always been a fan of him and his qualities but the praise he gets is so OTT; I'm not sure some of you guys watch the game properly.

DavelinaJolie · Dec 6, 2023

Amrabat hasn't been that bad.

Just so open on the counter though because of our slow defence.

Mr Pigeon · Dec 6, 2023

Bobski said:
Antony had a very good half by the way.

He's the first player I've seen in a long time who talked himself up in the press before the match and then actually went on to play really well.

That little nutmeg flick against Cnutface (can't remember exactly which one) was just

Flying_Heckfish · Dec 6, 2023

Another half of missed chances.

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose this now, I've seen this show too many times before.

Please team prove me wrong...

Bastian · Dec 6, 2023

Solius said:
Much much better today. Lots more energy. Good decisions for the most part too. Should be about 3 ahead.

Exactly.

I worry if this ends up 2-2 it will still be viewed as no style of play, let's get a new manager tomorrow who can play to the (Frankenstein assembly) players' strength, whilst also playing modern football, whilst also securing wins.

We need confidence though, hopefully we build on the first 30 minutes second half and focus at the back.

TrustInJanuzaj · Dec 6, 2023

tothetop96 said:
Garnacho does everything Rashford gets absolutely slaughtered for. He’s constantly losing the ball

He doesn’t though.

Oranges038 · Dec 6, 2023

DWelbz19 said:
Lindelof has been just as bad in virtually every game I’ve seen of him in the past 2 months. He also has far less credit in the bank on previous seasons form too

It's been nearly 7 years of the same shite with him.

Insanity · Dec 6, 2023

An enjoyable clash between two mid-table teams. Both teams are going for it. We have gone with the "no midfield" look but are pressing & winning the ball up the pitch brilliantly so far.

If both teams could be finish it would be 7-3, but then these two teams wouldn't be midtable if they could finish.

Let's hope we keep it up in the 2nd half.

Fts 74 · Dec 6, 2023

Just need to tighten up and we'll win this 3-1

AFC NimbleThumb · Dec 6, 2023

It’s telling that people say we’re playing well & Chelsea have had multiple breakaways/overloads.

vanrooney · Dec 6, 2023

Stookie said:
Thanks Mr Obvious. I’ve never bashed Onana before, on this one occasion I’ve said he should have done better. Which he should have.

you will see it as you like but that was not a gk mistake. only for those who have an agenda against onana

Partridge · Dec 6, 2023

Once your past our defense your home free :lol:

Lash · Dec 6, 2023

Still think we win this game, but a draw at HT is fair based on the chances being given up.

dubplate warrior · Dec 6, 2023

joedirt87 said:
No matter how many we score under Erik we will always concede an equal amount or more with his disregard for the importance of midfield.

It's tricky. I know he started poorly but we really miss Casemiro.

stu_1992 · Dec 6, 2023

Honestly so frustrating that we're only 1-1 at half time. It's probably one of the better halves we've had this season. Actually a really enjoyable watch. We had to better with the chances though. I was getting ready to come on here and talk about how we need to score a second before we get punished, but unfortunately it happened already.

If we can match that performance in the second half then we should be able to win.

Banana Republic · Dec 6, 2023

Bruno’s poor penalty, Hojlund not reacting quick enough to Garnacho’s cut back and ending up stretching… then the bad luck of the lucky double save from Sanchez.

We should have been comfortably ahead by the break.

Judas · Dec 6, 2023

Infuriating but typical half. So wasteful in front of goal. We should have scored 4-5 goals.

90 + 5min · Dec 6, 2023

MackRobinson said:
Blaming Onana is silly. He's been fine

Agree. That goal is on Lindelof. Defending like a scared rabbit. Just attack the player and ball. Stop going back and watch people run.

DavelinaJolie · Dec 6, 2023

Yep, don't see how Onana could have done much more there.

Zed is not dead · Dec 6, 2023

Chumpsbechumps said:
Harsh blaming him for the goal, it was a lovely finish

It was a tricky shot but a very slow one.
Im sorry but your keeper is supposed to keep you in the game, same way Sanchez kept Chelsea alive this half.

More often than not Onana is burying us alive. Tonight he won a 1v1 only to concede on their second shot on target.

I’m overreacting right now but it’s not the first time when under the slightest pressure our keeper is unable to help the team soak some of it. And that’s been the same scenario this season, we play reasonably well the first 20min, then there’s a bit of pressure from the opponents and we concede a flukey goal, often not helped by the keeper

the_cliff · Dec 6, 2023

In Rainbows said:
Sure, but this conversation was more of a conversation prior to the season. Although I'm not sure an elite striker would have done anything, but paper over the cracks with how bad the others have been. At this point with how bad we've been, I don't see how Hojlund is the wrong transfer. We know we're not going to get 3 trophies. Might as well view every match with a long term tint to it.

Let Hojlund learn from the experience. We have nothing to lose, and it's not worth getting upset over it at this point.

Sure. Now we're in this situation, of course. We shouldn't be in this situation though and it doesn't make it a good signing for what we needed.

always_hoping · Dec 6, 2023

MackRobinson said:
Blaming Onana is silly. He's been fine

Don't tell me people are? Lindelof was so poor on the goal and was exposed with midfielders not dropping back to help out. Same midfielders so easy to play through.

Wing Attack Plan R · Dec 6, 2023

Chelsea preparing to do a smash and grab like United against… United. Smash and grab was *our* plan, get your own fecking plan.

glazed · Dec 6, 2023

Ok I'll let Onana off. Just a really smart goal.

ArmaDino · Dec 6, 2023

TsuWave said:
I don't know what this means, and why you're talking about Pogba in the United vs Chelsea PL 2023 match thread

It means that you had a hard on for him even when it was clear as day that he was unprofessional and was putting in half shifts.

But now you turned into this "maintain the standards at United" guy who keeps the players and the manager responsible.

Just calling you a hypocrite mate, nothing else.

Those rants you had about how Pogba was twice the player Bruno was were hilarious. And the fact that he was somehow held back at United by the wrong formation and personnel around him. And now somehow this doesn't apply to the current manager or players like Onana. Gave me quiet a few good chuckles though

Bastian · Dec 6, 2023

tothetop96 said:
Garnacho does everything Rashford gets absolutely slaughtered for. He’s constantly losing the ball

Not at all. Watch him closely in the second half. He tracks back. He presses. He doesn't just try the one move, looks up and sees what's in front of him, and I can't remembering him throwing his toys out of the pram on the pitch displaying entitled body language.

crossy1686 · Dec 6, 2023

DavelinaJolie said:
Yep, don't see how Onana could have done much more there.

The 4 defenders around Palmer shouldn't have allowed that shot through

Teja · Dec 6, 2023

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The Hilton · Dec 6, 2023

Lindelof has been pretty poor, didn't do enough for the Palmer goal, completely lost Sterling for their breakaway that Onana saved, he looks vulnerable and it seems that Chelsea are targeting him on the break.

Big Ben Foster · Dec 6, 2023

Bobski said:
Antony had a very good half by the way.

Way too wasteful for it to be considered a good half IMO

mu4c_20le · Dec 6, 2023

MackRobinson said:
Blaming Onana is silly. He's been fine

Disagree. A 14 year old youth keeper has better footwork.

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padzilla · Dec 6, 2023

We are well on top but bizarrely lucky not to be behind given how bad our midfield and defence are.

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