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    Gordon S

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    Like I said. Meh game with a predictable outcome.
    It was indeed extremely meh, that was always a given, the result was very much not given. We scored on 2 pens and didn`t create a lot from open play. Everton created as much or maybe more than we did but are thankfully even more blunt and useless than us in actually getting the ball in the net.
     

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    That wasn't a response to the dominant bit :lol: what on earth are you on about. And you say my comprehension was bad.

    It was a response that we are just a counter attacking side. One that weirdly had more possession and were able to carve out penalties from non counter moments.
    You need to read posts slowly. It will help you, I promise.

    To which I said the core part of their commentary is that the expectations were that we were going to be dominant on the ball - "54% possession" was conflicting with said expectations.

    You've said I've whinged about us not being dominant despite the injuries today. I didn't. You babbled about adjusting expectations due to injuries - and I said I've seen us without them. Luckily this thread/forum has a search button.

    I didn't read that post beyond the first paragraph. Not sure what "tried this before" is about, I generally don't give my time to nonsense.
    I know you read it. You've tried this "didn't read gimmick" before. Also, for the record - I'm not the one that engaged with you.
     

    Ole'sgunnarwin

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    With the way you spelled pot shot stat, your subconscious is telling you how you really feel about that stat. As long as those shots arent dangerous (which they mostly arent), im happy with opponents taking them.
    I genuinely find your opinion insane but I respect it. To be a top team, you have to have some sort of control in these games. The fact we have a negative goal difference should be a clue as to why we're in the position we're in. It's not like all shots conceded this season are irrelevant. They have been dangerous.
     

    VP89

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    You need to read posts slowly. It will help you, I promise.

    To which I said the core part of their commentary is that the expectations were that we were going to be dominant on the ball - "54% possession" was conflicting with said expectations.
    Let me teach you how to read by showing the bits I referred to below, as though the post themselves weren't clear enough.

    . Manchester United are now completely a counter-attacking team, even at OT[/I]"
    54% possession for a counter attacking team hey
    ^ I was very explicit to refer to the counter attacking bit of the commentary, not the dominance bit.

    You failing to comprehend points is why I have not read beyond that sentence, again. Get this first part right then you can move on to the next step.
     

    TsuWave

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    Let me teach you how to read by showing the bits I referred to below, as though the post themselves weren't clear enough.

    ^ I was very explicit to refer to the counter attacking bit of the commentary, not the dominance bit.

    You failing to comprehend points is why I have not read beyond that sentence, again. Get this first part right then you can move on to the next step.
    I legitimately don't know what's not registering - I don't care what you were commenting or referring to - I said that their commentary likely hinged on the core part of them expecting us to be dominant - which 54% possession is not indication of. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? 54% possession and United largely hitting Everton on the counter aren't mutually exclusive things either - but again, I made no comments on this outside of trying to point you towards where the conflict likely was for the commentary.

    Read. Slowly.
     

    VP89

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    I legitimately don't know what's not registering - I don't care what you were commenting or referring to.
    Then don't reply to my post at the time. It's really not hard.
    Read. Slowly.
    Says the guy who thought all this time I was referring to dominance, even though I explicitly stated having an issue with the counter attacking bit. You really are one of the worst posters, let's just give each other a break.
     

    TsuWave

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    Then don't reply to my post at the time. It's really not hard.
    I replied to you because you quoted me and were lost as usual. You think 54% possession invalidated what was said in the commentary. It doesn't.

    Says the guy who thought all this time I was referring to dominance, even though I explicitly stated having an issue with the counter attacking bit. You really are one of the worst posters, let's just give each other a break.
    I legit just told you I made no commentary on whatever you were talking about - and told you where the conflict was for the commentary.

    You even made up something about whinging about us not being dominant today despite injuries. You're constantly doing unserious "woe is me" routines where you make stuff up. I don't care about your assessments on posters - I don't take you seriously
     

    VP89

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    I replied to you because you quoted me and were lost as usual. You think 54% possession invalidated what was said in the commentary. It doesn't.
    For the 100th time, I made it clear I said it invalidated the counter attacking point made on commentary. Which it did.

    Read posts or don't reply, I even stated my post was regarding pure counter attacking specifically, which was bollocks.

    As with the previous, I am not acknowledging the rest of your post until you can understand the point I actually made, which literally couldn't be more clear.
     

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    I could only watch the first half.... Everton were better, more organised.. but Garnacho was the difference. Both teams looked pretty abject in an attacking sense... Dwight McNeil was the best player on the park for what I saw.

    We have no style of play to rely on, Neville recently said this. It's like we don't train together.

    What is going on?
     

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    For the 100th time, I made it clear I said it invalidated the counter attacking point made on commentary. Which it did.

    Read posts or don't reply, I even stated my post was regarding pure counter attacking specifically, which was bollocks.
    The first half stats read 53% - 47% possession. You can have more possession and still largely hit teams on the counter/breaks - especially so when the difference in possession is so minute. That coupled with the expectations they'd previously set/spoke on led to the conflict in which their commentary was anchored. You're free to disagree - I simply pointed you to what was said and how that possession stat isn't mutually exclusive with the aforementioned nor divorced from their wider commentary.

    They reiterated it post match:

     

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    The first half stats read 53% - 47% possession. You can have more possession and still largely hit teams on the counter/breaks - especially so when the difference in possession is so minute. That coupled with the expectations they'd previously set/spoke on led to the conflict in which their commentary was anchored. You're free to disagree - I simply pointed you to what was said and how that possession stat isn't mutually exclusive with the aforementioned nor divorced from their wider commentary.

    They reiterated it post match:

    The fact that we had more of the ball and created our pens from non counter attacking plays shows that we were not solely a counter attack team.
    I watched the game, and don't need B grade pundits to try and state otherwise.
     

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    The fact that we had more of the ball and created our pens from non counter attacking plays shows that we were not solely a counter attack team.
    I watched the game, and don't need B grade pundits to try and state otherwise.
    The word solely was not used at any point.

    I watched the game, and was not impressed with United - and found some merits in the criticism regarding the first half.
     

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    It was indeed extremely meh, that was always a given, the result was very much not given. We scored on 2 pens and didn`t create a lot from open play. Everton created as much or maybe more than we did but are thankfully even more blunt and useless than us in actually getting the ball in the net.
    I didn't watch the match, and the bolded bit is completely expected. But weirdly I'd never felt more confident in a win. We very rarely lose to that lot these days.
     

    VP89

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    The word solely was not used at any point.

    I watched the game, and was not impressed with United - and found some merits in the criticism regarding the first half.
    Right, we weren't a "counter attack" team either. I agree we looked most threatening on counters but we were trying to build up our attacks, as demonstrated by the possession metrics and the way we actually carved out our penalties and other chances in the game.

    I do think we had a lot more counter plays in the second half, naturally so as Everton tried to commit more players forward.

    Don't think the analysis is wholly inaccurate but its certainly exaggerative.
     
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Man of the Match

Alejandro Garnacho image Alejandro Garnacho 67% of 205 votes

Runners-up

Player Ratings

5.9 Total Average Rating

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Compiled from 188 ratings.

Score Predictions

128,12,29
  • Man Utd win
  • Everton win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 27% Man Utd 2:0 Everton
  • 25% Man Utd 2:1 Everton
  • 10% Man Utd 1:1 Everton
  • 8% Man Utd 3:0 Everton
  • 8% Man Utd 3:1 Everton
  • 7% Man Utd 1:0 Everton
  • 4% Man Utd 1:2 Everton
  • 3% Man Utd 0:0 Everton
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Everton
  • 2% Man Utd 0:2 Everton
  • 1% Man Utd 3:3 Everton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:0 Everton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:9 Everton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Everton
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Everton
Possession
51% 49%
Shots
15 23
Shots on Target
8 6
Corners
5 8
Fouls
13 11

Referee

Simon Hooper