Manchester United 4:1 Fenerbahce

pocco · Oct 20, 2016

Kag said:
I wish we could score three or four genuinely good goals that aren't from corners or opponent howlers.

Our attack, no matter how people like to dress it up, plays like it's stuck in the mud.

It's by far the most frustrating thing about us because that's where our biggest talents operate. Its also where we've spent most of our money recently.

My hopes rest on Martial & Mkhitaryan on that sense right now as they're the more untried quantities right now. If they serve up more of the same then it's a genuine head- scratcher.

Kag · Oct 20, 2016

pocco said:
It's by far the most frustrating thing about us because that's where our biggest talents operate. Its also where we've spent most of our money recently.

My hopes rest on Martial & Mkhitaryan on that sense right now as they're the more untried quantities right now. If they serve up more of the same then it's a genuine head- scratcher.

Likewise. I think encouraging successful attacking football is predominantly down to coaching. In fairness to Mourinho, though it's far from perfect, we are getting more shots on goal.

But in terms of putting together passes in and around the opposition box that lead to a goal we're well behind almost all of our domestic rivals.

Aside from that Mata goal against Leicester, I can't think of a goal that has really impressed me.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

Mkhitaryan team news update

Henrikh Mkhitaryan will not start Manchester United’s Europa Leaguetie against Fenerbahce tonight.

M.E.N. Sport understands Mkhitaryan is ‘not quite ready’ to return for a competitive start despite returning to training at Carrington three weeks ago.

United manager Jose Mourinho refused to confirm if Mkhitaryan would start on Wednesday but is still optimistic the Armenian 27-year-old will justify his £26.3million price tag.

“Mkhitaryan was injured, he is not injured any more and is training without any limitations,” Mourinho said at his pre-match press conference.

“I cannot confirm if he will play tomorrow but he is fit and it is time for him to go back to the levels we know he can achieve.”

LuisNaniencia · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Mkhitaryan team news update

Henrikh Mkhitaryan will not start Manchester United’s Europa Leaguetie against Fenerbahce tonight.

M.E.N. Sport understands Mkhitaryan is ‘not quite ready’ to return for a competitive start despite returning to training at Carrington three weeks ago.

United manager Jose Mourinho refused to confirm if Mkhitaryan would start on Wednesday but is still optimistic the Armenian 27-year-old will justify his £26.3million price tag.

“Mkhitaryan was injured, he is not injured any more and is training without any limitations,” Mourinho said at his pre-match press conference.

“I cannot confirm if he will play tomorrow but he is fit and it is time for him to go back to the levels we know he can achieve.”

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

All change up front
Ashley Young has been rested and it’s safe to assume Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Marcus Rashford will be, too. Paul Pogba could partner the midfielder or he could also sit it out as well. We’ll have more on United’s attack for tonight’s game soon.

zeekey · Oct 20, 2016

Skrtel to receive a contrasting welcome to Van Persie I'd expect.

VP89 · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Mkhitaryan team news update

Henrikh Mkhitaryan will not start Manchester United’s Europa Leaguetie against Fenerbahce tonight.

M.E.N. Sport understands Mkhitaryan is ‘not quite ready’ to return for a competitive start despite returning to training at Carrington three weeks ago.

United manager Jose Mourinho refused to confirm if Mkhitaryan would start on Wednesday but is still optimistic the Armenian 27-year-old will justify his £26.3million price tag.

“Mkhitaryan was injured, he is not injured any more and is training without any limitations,” Mourinho said at his pre-match press conference.

“I cannot confirm if he will play tomorrow but he is fit and it is time for him to go back to the levels we know he can achieve.”

So this is M.E.N claiming Mkhitaryan won't start because of Mourinho's quotes? If its based from that alone, I still think he's starting.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

Rooney recalled
It’s understood Wayne Rooney will start up front with Anthony Martial, Juan Mata and Jesse Lingard behind him in the United attack.

Ashley Young has been rested and it’s safe to assume Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Marcus Rashford will be, too. Paul Pogba could partner the midfielder or he could also sit it out as well. We’ll have more on United’s attack for tonight’s game soon.

SirAnderson · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Rooney recalled
It’s understood Wayne Rooney will start up front with Anthony Martial, Juan Mata and Jesse Lingard behind him in the United attack.

Ashley Young has been rested and it’s safe to assume Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Marcus Rashford will be, too. Paul Pogba could partner the midfielder or he could also sit it out as well. We’ll have more on United’s attack for tonight’s game soon.

Where you getting this info? M.E.N?

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

SirAnderson said:
Where you getting this info? M.E.N?

Yeah. Of course it is all guesswork.

Catt · Oct 20, 2016

sunama said:
I just saw this interview with Shaw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tx6sg8RCeX0

He really does talk a lot about Ibra. It would appear that Ibra is the leader in the changing room.
Previously, it seemed that the one thing which Rooney could do is be the voice in the dressing room, but this seems to no longer be the case. I guess Rooney is being pushed out.

Zlatan was brought in to kill Rooney (figuratively speaking)

SirAnderson · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Yeah. Of course it is all guesswork.

Yeah, but at least this time it seems a bit plausible.
But then again Mourinho said he wants to field a strong team.
Rooney starting, doesn't sound so strong! :nono:

Catt · Oct 20, 2016

Interesting team speculation.

Anyone know much about Fener? Apart from RvP and Skrtl I have now idea.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

SirAnderson said:
Yeah, but at least this time it seems a bit plausible.
But then again Mourinho said he wants to field a strong team.
Rooney starting, doesn't sound so strong!

If Rooney doesn't perform then it could be the end of him. Herrera, Blind, Valencia and Young rested. Mikhi and Morgan not yet ready.

SirAnderson · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
If Rooney doesn't perform then it could be the end of him. Herrera, Blind, Valencia and Young rested. Mikhi and Morgan not yet ready.

Most definitely.

Wonder what subs he will go for, if Herrera and Morgan not in, wonder if Carrick will get a cameo. Probably Memphis will get a run in and if things are going bad, Zlatan or Rash on to get a goal, or both for that matter.

Fener1907 · Oct 20, 2016

top1whoisman said:
Perhaps @Fener1907 could give more insight?

I'm pretty clueless, to be honest. Too concerned about politics to care about football.

pauldyson1uk · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Mkhitaryan team news update

Henrikh Mkhitaryan will not start Manchester United’s Europa Leaguetie against Fenerbahce tonight.

M.E.N. Sport understands Mkhitaryan is ‘not quite ready’ to return for a competitive start despite returning to training at Carrington three weeks ago.

United manager Jose Mourinho refused to confirm if Mkhitaryan would start on Wednesday but is still optimistic the Armenian 27-year-old will justify his £26.3million price tag.

“Mkhitaryan was injured, he is not injured any more and is training without any limitations,” Mourinho said at his pre-match press conference.

“I cannot confirm if he will play tomorrow but he is fit and it is time for him to go back to the levels we know he can achieve.”

FFS is he made of glass !! doubt he has been fully fit since we signed him , it is a bit annoying.

DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

Unconfirmed team

De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Shaw, Bailly, Smalling, Carrick, Pogba, Martial, Mata, Lingard, Rooney.

This chimes with our story earlier.

top1whoisman · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Unconfirmed team

De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Shaw, Bailly, Smalling, Carrick, Pogba, Martial, Mata, Lingard, Rooney.

This chimes with our story earlier.

I thought Pogba was supposed to be rested.

Carlsen19 · Oct 20, 2016

Mkhi's training for 3 weeks and he's still not ready for a start?

SirAnderson · Oct 20, 2016

I just want to be blown away again, a goal in the first 10 minutes, then dominating with slick passes, and another goal just before half time. In to 2nd half we start with good intensity and on the 60th minute we get our 3rd. Continuing to pass well and not create a snoozefest, we can make 2 changes by the 70th minute, and the final change by the 85th minute. See out the game with comfort. (Here's to fairytales coming truth)

Will be more like:

Start the game slowwww, not getting out of 1st gear the entire first half, with Rooney missing at least 3 sitters. Second half we run with purpose for the first 10 minutes of 2nd half, only to concede a goal. That makes Jose go to the bench and ring 2 changes, Zlatan and Rash coming on. Old Trafford keeps shouting shoooooooot everytime our players come close to the opposition box. Finally we get the equalizer, Rashford poaching goal, there after we push and push frustratingly for the winner, and Jose throws on Memphis around 75th minute for our last change. 88th minute after dominating the last 12 minutes we finally get our goal, Zlatan bailing us out again. (Here's to all the pessimists out there)

( :lol:

That awkward moment, 2 hours just before kick off when you have nothing but time...)

Organic Potatoes · Oct 20, 2016

pauldyson1uk said:
FFS is he made of glass !! doubt he has been fully fit since we signed him , it is a bit annoying.

I'd assume a severe contusion to the thigh would be somewhat detrimental in a sport that requires you to run for 90 minutes.

Those can last for weeks.

SirAnderson · Oct 20, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
Unconfirmed team

De Gea, Fosu-Mensah, Shaw, Bailly, Smalling, Carrick, Pogba, Martial, Mata, Lingard, Rooney.

This chimes with our story earlier.

I hope Romero gets the nod though. And chances are it will be Fellaini instead of Carrick.

spwd · Oct 20, 2016

Wtf is wrong with miki?

OohAahMartial · Oct 20, 2016

Make or break for Rooney. Guess Mhki and Memphis to come on as subs.

OohAahMartial · Oct 20, 2016

spwd said:
Wtf is wrong with miki?

Nothing I suspect. But its normal to bring players back after injury first as a sub then a half time sub then a start only to be subbed and then finally full games. Remember he's not had a run of games since he came so lacks match fitness and sharpness.

top1whoisman · Oct 20, 2016

Fener1907 said:
I'm pretty clueless, to be honest. Too concerned about politics to care about football.

More than understandable, mate.

top1whoisman · Oct 20, 2016

Red Katie said:
Interesting team speculation.

Anyone know much about Fener? Apart from RvP and Skrtl I have now idea.

Not too much about their players. Simon Kjær partnering Skrtel and van der Wiel on the right.

What I do know is that they're currently 9th in the Turkish Super League, 9 points after 7 matches. If we fail to beat them, whatever our XI, the players need to take a long look in the mirror.

Bwuk · Oct 20, 2016

It's nearly November and Mkhi has barely featured. Worrying.

bosnian_red · Oct 20, 2016

Bwuk said:
It's nearly November and Mkhi has barely featured. Worrying.

Well when hes been injured for like 7 weeks and only recently started training with no restrictions it makes sense

top1whoisman · Oct 20, 2016

I hate the fact that Fenerbahce spelled wrong in the thread title bothers me so much.

pseudo_canadian · Oct 20, 2016

Bwuk said:
It's nearly November and Mkhi has barely featured. Worrying.

Yeah, it's been a pretty concerning start to his United career.

Raw · Oct 20, 2016

No Mkhitaryan at all, what the feck.

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DomesticTadpole · Oct 20, 2016

UNITED'S STARTING XI
United: De Gea, Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw, Carrick, Pogba, Mata, Rooney, Lingard, Martial. Subs: Romero, Fosu-Mensah, Rojo, Fellaini, Memphis, Ibrahimovic, Rashford.

J-Stander · Oct 20, 2016

Pretty worrying on the Mkhitaryan front.

VanGaalyTime · Oct 20, 2016

Raw said:
No Mkhitaryan at all, what the feck.

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Shoot. I thought this was Mkhi's chance to make a name for himself. Very concerning.

Hugh Jass · Oct 20, 2016

Very interesting team. Wasnt expecting that at all.

Kostur · Oct 20, 2016

Fair setup I guess, expected Schneiderlin-Carrick midfield duo to be fair but other than that it seems alright.

Mkhitaryan probably is not yet fully fit.

Marcelinho87 · Oct 20, 2016

Micky T has to make the bench against Chelsea then surely?

Hope Pogba has a good game.

An Irish Red · Oct 20, 2016

I would honestly rather see us play Rojo as an attacking midfielder than Rooney. That's how little I rate him.

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