Manchester United 2:0 Leicester City

Litch · Aug 20, 2017

Stack said:
That just ignores the way football is actually played. When you come across a team that plays a different way you need to counter that or handle it. That may require different players to come in. Horses for courses. The play the same team if it wins idea is incredibly naive.

Naive, Jose's just done it..... the team that wins the league is generally the one who makes the less changes. You're confusing formation with change of personnel or confusing football with American football...Changes come around with drop in form or fatigue. Granted, sometimes you do bring players in to combat certain teams but If you applied your way, you'd have to change every week cause no two teams play the same ortherwise why didn't Jose play a different team against West Ham as he did against Swansea who put 10 players behind the ball.....?

Stack · Aug 20, 2017

Wilson Litchmore said:
Naive, Jose's just done it..... the team that wins the league is generally the one who makes the less changes. You're confusing formation with change of personnel or confusing football with American football...Changes come around with drop in form or fatigue. Granted, sometimes you do bring players in to combat certain teams but If you applied your way, you'd have to change every week cause no two teams play the same ortherwise why didn't Jose play a different team against West Ham as he did against Swansea who put 10 players behind the ball.....?

You are arguing against your own comment here and nowhere did I say you have to change each week, you're just being overly dramatic with that nonsense. West Ham ans Swansea really werent that far apart in terms of how they play so it makes sense that Jose played the same team twice. Im not confusing formation with anything or confusing american football with anything, thats the little voices in your head dreaming up things its imagined Ive said.

RDCR07 · Aug 20, 2017

Lukaku

Martial - Pogba - Mkhi

Herrera - Matic

Blind - Jones - Bailly - Valencia

De Gea

Red Star One · Aug 20, 2017

We might see Pogba-Matić-Herrera/Fellaini all starting, I think.

The Brown Bull · Aug 20, 2017

Surely Martial has to start? If Rashford had scored 2 in 2 sub appearances there would be a clamour for him to start.

RDCR07 · Aug 20, 2017

Start Martial. If we are leading then bring on Rashford for Martial at the end and hopefully he can score this time and open his account for the year.

PoTMS · Aug 20, 2017

I can see Fellaini and Martial both starting this one. Both had very good cameos against Swansea, particularly Martial. Fellaini wasn't too shabby either, and his physicality in midfield might be preferred over someone like Mata.

Solius · Aug 20, 2017

de Gea
Valencia - Bailly - Jones - Darmian
Pogba - Matic
Rashford - Mkhi - Martial
Lukaku

Is what I'd do. Don't want Blind at left-back again.

MadMike · Aug 21, 2017

Andersons Dietician said:
I reckon this will be a game where the 352 comes out. Darmian to be chosen so he can go inside with Mahrez

I reckon Leicester should be more worried about how to counter us rather than us worrying how to counter Leicester and Mahrez.

And if Vardy is out too, they have feck all goal threat. No way would I play with 3 at the back then. Complete waste to have 3 CBs.

RDCR07 · Aug 21, 2017

Andersons Dietician said:
I reckon this will be a game where the 352 comes out. Darmian to be chosen so he can go inside with Mahrez

Its a HOME game against a team who isn't going to finish in the top 7. No need to play 3 at the back. Might also send a wrong message to the players. We are attacking well, creating boat loads of chances and actually finishing. Lets keep the confidence high and not make wholesale changes to the system when things are going right.

LeftyBlaster · Aug 21, 2017

MadMike said:
I reckon Leicester should be more worried about how to counter us rather than us worrying how to counter Leicester and Mahrez.

And if Vardy is out too, they have feck all goal threat. No way would I play with 3 at the back then. Complete waste to have 3 CBs.

What's happened to Vardy? I would not play 3 at the back against Leicester too. Would like us to start Matic-Pogba-Herrera in midfield while dropping Mata.

frank lee madeer.. · Aug 21, 2017

LeftyBlaster said:
What's happened to Vardy? I would not play 3 at the back against Leicester too. Would like us to start Matic-Pogba-Herrera in midfield while dropping Mata.

I doubt Leicester will be playing a 3 man midfield , so I don't see why it should be necessary for the home side . If pogba and matic can't hold their own against this lot at home, we're in trouble.

LeftyBlaster · Aug 21, 2017

frank lee madeer.. said:
I doubt Leicester will be playing a 3 man midfield , so I don't see why it should be necessary for the home side . If pogba and matic can't hold their own against this lot at home, we're in trouble.

It's not that I believe Matic-Pogba can't hold their own against a Leicester midfield. I would Herrera to really overpower them both on and off the ball. He won't give them a moment to breathe off the ball and make it that much more difficult for them to string anything coherent.

CM · Aug 21, 2017

Hoping for another convincing win in this one. We beat them comfortably in both games last season and Lukaku scored 3 goals against them for Everton.

NoPace · Aug 21, 2017

Don't think Mourinho will want to just go at Leicester and let them counter, so I think Mata will sit and either Herrera or Fellaini will start instead in a 4-3-3, with the rest of the lineup the same.

Personally, I'd play Rashford at RW and Martial out left. Fuchs was dribbled more times than any other player in the big 5 leagues last year, so I say target him with either Rashford or Martial and since Martial never plays RW, i'd throw Rashford at him, though doing that after an hour if the game opens up might make more sense too.

So yeah, give me 4-3-3 with Herrera then Mkhitaryan off for Martial and Rashford switches wings for the last half hour if we're up a goal or two or the game is surprisingly open.

MadMike · Aug 21, 2017

LeftyBlaster said:
What's happened to Vardy? I would not play 3 at the back against Leicester too. Would like us to start Matic-Pogba-Herrera in midfield while dropping Mata.

He got taken off in the last game limping after a knock. There's no new yet with regards to the seriousness of it but as with any knock you're quite likely to miss the very next game.

barmyarmy · Aug 21, 2017

I would start with Rashford on right to nullify the threat of C.Fuchs has brilliant left foot and with Rashford Pace he would be scared to come forward more often but i think Mourinho will start with Fellaini in a mdifield 3

RedPed · Aug 21, 2017

What the hell, might as well go for another 4-0. That would be awesome. Apart from that disastrous 5-3 reverse, we always do well against Leicester. I think Martial will start this one.

Adam-Utd · Aug 21, 2017

Same team again please, you don't change a winning team.

Only worry is Blind v Mahrez but he handled him pretty well last year. Let's give it to them full throttle like we did in our last home game, 4-0 by half time would be excellent

SirAnderson · Aug 21, 2017

Don't see Leciester sitting back. They will either come out attacking like with Arsenal. Or they will play on the counter. Both options will give us the advantage I think.

While the time is winning, I do think Martial should come in, i'd say for Mata.

Hopefully we can keep a clean sheet, but as Jose said, we need to see our resolve when we go behind, so i don't mind them scoring, as long as we end up winning convincingly again. But then again, a clean sheet feels so much better.

3-0 or 3-1 with the Deadly Trio: Lukaku, Martial and Pogba.

Andersons Dietician · Aug 21, 2017

MadMike said:
I reckon Leicester should be more worried about how to counter us rather than us worrying how to counter Leicester and Mahrez.

And if Vardy is out too, they have feck all goal threat. No way would I play with 3 at the back then. Complete waste to have 3 CBs.

I think 352 is more attacking than 4231.

Didn't know Vardy had an issue tho

MadMike · Aug 21, 2017

Andersons Dietician said:
I think 352 is more attacking than 4231.

Didn't know Vardy had an issue tho

I guess we'll have to completely disagree on that first sentence.

TrustInJanuzaj · Aug 21, 2017

Andersons Dietician said:
I think 352 is more attacking than 4231.

Didn't know Vardy had an issue tho

Sorry but no chance that's true.

AXVnee7 · Aug 21, 2017

Every game feels like an eternity away at the moment.

We've caught a lucky break if Vardy is going to sit this one out, but I'd expect us to win regardless.

JJ12 · Aug 21, 2017

Only worry for me is Mahrez one on one with Blind - hopefully somebody signs him this week :lol:

Vardy twisted his ankle Saturday so I doubt he's 100%.

I find the criticism of Rashford staggering - was our main threat in both first halfs so far. End product will come.

I think Jose will be a little more conservative with the way Leicester can attack so I think we'll see 4-3-3 with Mata making way for Herrera.

Morpheus 7 · Aug 21, 2017

Martial deserves to start over Rashford. Rashford is quality but he was poor against Swansea and again and isn't finishing big chances at the moment. Martial has only been on a few minutes the last two games and it's been raining goals. He changed things against Swansea. The team is fine otherwise. Why would we be changing formation too, it's fecking Leicester. Not Chelsea away. The same Leicester that were rubbish at the back against Arsenal. Looking forward to seeing United so much these days, Saturday feels like ages away. That's always a good sign.

horsechoker · Aug 21, 2017

Is the Mahrez to Roma deal still on?

If we could have him and Vardy unavailable it bodes well for us.

sokol11 · Aug 21, 2017

TrustInJanuzai said:
Sorry but no chance that's true.

Why not? With two very offensive full backs? You play with three at the back one CM a little withdrawn to offer protection and everything else on the offensive? Or you could play it like Chelsea vs. Tottenham yesterday. With 11 men behind the ball in whatever formation you choose besides 3 or let's say 5 at the back.

Andersons Dietician · Aug 21, 2017

MadMike said:
I guess we'll have to completely disagree on that first sentence.

Why don't you think it is more attacking? Especially since how we saw how it was played in pre season? In an attacking phase it's essentially 6 attacking players and has the starting point of those attackers higher up the field.

It also allows him to have Lukaku Martial/Rashford play together up top. Put Miki in the 3 with Pogba like against LA Galaxy. Only weakness really is the LWB spot but when Shaw comes back that is taken care of.

As an attacking formation for me we've looked far better and dangerous in the 352 than the 433 or 4231's we've played so far.

Andersons Dietician · Aug 21, 2017

TrustInJanuzai said:
Sorry but no chance that's true.

How attacking were we last year with 4231, not very is the answer. Depends how you play it. I think in Blighty there is a misconception about numbers in formations and blinkers on how they actually are played on the field. 352 is more attacking easily.

sunama · Aug 21, 2017

MadMike said:
He got taken off in the last game limping after a knock. There's no new yet with regards to the seriousness of it but as with any knock you're quite likely to miss the very next game.

I think Vardy will be fine to play at OT - one of the biggest games of the season, for LCFC. And Vardy has a 'run through brick walls' mentality. He'll be ready for OT, even if he is injured and needs injections, to get on the pitch.

MadMike · Aug 21, 2017

Andersons Dietician said:
Why don't you think it is more attacking? Especially since how we saw how it was played in pre season? In an attacking phase it's essentially 6 attacking players and has the starting point of those attackers higher up the field.

I don't really feel the need to discuss this. You are counting Valencia and Blind and 2 CMs as attacking players to get 6. The actual attacking players in our 3-5-2 were the two forwards and mayyybe 1 CM (Pogba) coming from deep. Which is 1 less attacking player than we get with 4-2-3-1. That attacking player has now become a CB in the 3-5-2. It's quite obvious. Not to mention that we only used the 3-5-2 in occasions where we thought we'd have to nullify the opposition (R.Madrid, Chelsea).

Feel free to disagree all you want, but like I said I don't feel the need to drag this discussion on at all.

sunama · Aug 21, 2017

Morpheus 7 said:
Looking forward to seeing United so much these days, Saturday feels like ages away. That's always a good sign.

Same here, man.
I want to see us demolish another team.
Make hay while the Sun shines.

MadMike · Aug 21, 2017

sunama said:
I think Vardy will be fine to play at OT - one of the biggest games of the season, for LCFC. And Vardy has a 'run through brick walls' mentality. He'll be ready for OT, even if he is injured and needs injections, to get on the pitch.

We'll see I guess. I have no further information, I merely speculated that he might not play based on what happened last game.

Andersons Dietician · Aug 21, 2017

MadMike said:
I don't really feel the need to discuss this. You are counting Valencia and Blind and 2 CMs as attacking players to get 6. The actual attacking players in our 3-5-2 were the two forwards and mayyybe 1 CM (Pogba) coming from deep. Which is 1 less attacking player than we get with 4-2-3-1. That attacking player has now become a CB in the 3-5-2. It's quite obvious. Not to mention that we only used the 3-5-2 in occasions where we thought we'd have to nullify the opposition (R.Madrid, Chelsea).

Feel free to disagree all you want, but like I said I don't feel the need to drag this discussion on at all.

Bit of a kopp out but fair enough.

AdnanRED · Aug 21, 2017

I haven't watched them in a while, do they still sit back and attack on counters?

DDG
Valencia Bailly Jones Blind
Herrera Matic
Mkhi Pogba Martial
Lukaku

Martial deserves a start and Herrera will add a good balance if we get caught on the counter or if Matic roams forward a bit also.

Expecting 3-0

DomesticTadpole · Aug 21, 2017

Leicester team news for Saturday
The Leicester Mercury writes that Jamie Vardy has already returned to training, which is good news for Eric Bailly after their confrontation back in February.

GrandJury · Aug 21, 2017

When you win 4-0 twice and have a weeks rest between games you aren't going to change your lineup I'm afraid.

Jose will play the same team and we'll get a similar result.

whatwha · Aug 21, 2017

DomesticTadpole said:
Leicester team news for Saturday
The Leicester Mercury writes that Jamie Vardy has already returned to training, which is good news for Eric Bailly after their confrontation back in February.

What confrontation?

RDCR07 · Aug 21, 2017

We got the stupid international break after this game. Just when we are actually excited to watch our team every weekend there is a two week break and we got to hope we suffer no injuries.

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