Manchester United 0:0 Liverpool

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

This is a must not lose game. We need to do our current best buddies City a favor and halt their title charge.

With Martial and Lingard out, this new system Ole implemented against Chelsea will face it's real first test. A draw wouldn't be too bad considering the circumstances, but a win would be most welcome of course.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
This is a must not lose game. We need to do our current best buddies City a favor and halt their title charge.

With Martial and Lingard out, this new system Ole implemented against Chelsea will face it's real first test. A draw wouldn't be too bad considering the circumstances, but a win would be most welcome of course.

How many times Ole will have "real first test"?

ErranMorad · Feb 19, 2019

Can't see us losing this, tbh. The worst the result we'll get is a draw, imo. Good 6 days break so I would go with the similar line-up to last night.

De Gea
Young Smalling Lindelof Shaw
Matic
Herrera Pogba
Mata
Rashford...........Sanchez

Think we'll get a jammy 2-1 win.

Yagami · Feb 19, 2019

Don't care how; just beat them.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
How many times Ole will have "real first test"?

If you read my post properly, I said it's a test for the system and not for Ole's credentials as manager.

The system worked against your favorite hipster manager at the Bridge, now Liverpool is just a bit tougher. Klopp won't hesitate to go long or do what it takes to win ugly, he hasn't been entirely inflexible this season.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
If you read my post properly, I said it's a test for the system and not for Ole's credentials as manager.

The system worked against your favorite hipster manager at the Bridge, now Liverpool is just a bit tougher. Klopp won't hesitate to go long or do what it takes to win ugly, he hasn't been entirely inflexible this season.

So tactics worked against Chelsea but somehow Liverpool will be first real test. At this rate Ole will have only 2 real tests.

Re bold :lol:

RG 11 · Feb 19, 2019

I don't care if we put all 11 players in goal to prevent them from scoring, it's our responsibility to make sure they don't win for the sake of every football supporter who already has to endure ex pool pundits on their tv screen.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
So tactics worked against Chelsea but somehow Liverpool will be first real test. At this rate Ole will have only 2 real tests.

Again, what part of its a test for the system and not Ole don't you get?

Of course the tactics worked against Chelsea, who are far inferior to Liverpool in many areas at the moment. Or you think tactics should work against all teams all the time in the exact same way?

Still remember how you were wanking over Sarri at the start of the season too. :lol:

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
Again, what part of its a test for the system and not Ole don't you get?

Of course the tactics worked against Chelsea, who are far inferior to Liverpool in many areas at the moment. Or you think tactics should work against all teams all the time in the exact same way?

Still remember how you were wanking over Sarri at the start of the season too.

I remember how you were permanent resident in Jose's arse :lol:

So system worked vs Chelsea but it wasn't a test? :houllier:

You think we play in the exact same way like we did vs Chelsea? Every game is different and there will be tweaks depending on opponents.

Liverpool is not a test, nothing is a test except the whole time from December to May/June.

Escobar · Feb 19, 2019

Let's beat them!!

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
I remember how you were permanent resident in Jose's arse

So system worked vs Chelsea but it wasn't a test?

Liverpool is not a test, nothing is a test except the whole time from December to May/June.

1- Never was. Even in his first season, I praised him for the cup wins and defended the fact that his signings weren't shit, but I wasn't worshipping him or thinking him flawless at any time like some. Even criticised him for the Sevilla presser though I thought he should get time as he finished 2nd. Turned after the start to the third season and when he was chasing after Willian instead of using Martial.

Nothing like your Sarri obsession. :lol:

2- Reading comprehension much? Yes, the system worked against Chelsea. That was a test. Liverpool is another test, where if it is found out, it might have to be changed. And there is a greater likelihood of Liverpool being able to cope better than Chelsea obviously. Kindly tell me exactly what is wrong with this.

Your last line makes no sense. Anything new is always bound to be tested, and the formation Ole used is new due to injuries.

westmeath · Feb 19, 2019

Team selection boils down to one choice, Lukaku or Sanchez. Rom had a poor game against Chelsea but Sanchez hasn’t been much better lately. One of these guys has to find form at some stage. Not sure why but I would go for Lukaku for this one.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
1- Never was. Even in his first season, I praised him for the cup wins and defended the fact that his signings weren't shit, but I wasn't worshipping him or thinking him flawless at any time like some. Even criticised him for the Sevilla presser though I thought he should get time as he finished 2nd. Turned after the start to the third season and when he was chasing after Willian instead of using Martial.

Nothing like your Sarri obsession.

2- Reading comprehension much? Yes, the system worked against Chelsea. That was a test. Liverpool is another test, where if it is found out, it might have to be changed. And there is a greater likelihood of Liverpool being able to cope better than Chelsea obviously. Kindly tell me exactly what is wrong with this.

Your last line makes no sense. Anything new is always bound to be tested, and the formation Ole used is new due to injuries.

Sarri obsession? :lol:

He did superb job at Napoli, it wasn't hard to see that except for "Winning mentlaity" brigade, something Jose fans like you were obsessed with. Never was? Nice try.

So liverpool isn't a first test, something that started this discussion. Glad that is sorted now.

Kapardin said:
With Martial and Lingard out, this new system Ole implemented against Chelsea will face it's real first test. .

roonster09 said:
How many times Ole will have "real first test"?

Kapardin said:
Yes, the system worked against Chelsea. That was a test. Liverpool is another test, where if it is found out, it might have to be changed.

Changed tune in 3 posts.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
Sarri obsession? He did superb job at Napoli, it wasn't hard to see that except for "Winning mentlaity" brigade, something Jose fans like you were obsessed with. Never was? Nice try.

So liverpool isn't a first test, something that started this discussion. Glad that is sorted now.

So nothing of substance other than the ridiculous assumption that you had that anyone anti-Sarri was pro-Jose, because the argument made was that Sarri had no experience at big clubs and would find the pressure at Chelsea a different beast. You have to realize that just because the argument is about Sarri's lack of experience, it does not amount to a defense of Jose because I never said Jose was perfect.

Very funny you still label anti-Sarri people as pro-Jose, I suppose the entire Chelsea fanbase want Jose back by your logic.

And let's face it, Jose would be considered over Sarri at some clubs even now, in his declining state.

And for your second line, you still lack major reading comprehension. I said Liverpool, a team in form, almost top of the league, is a real test. Not the first test. So, stop trying to wrangle stories out of innocuous posts.

MikeKing · Feb 19, 2019

I know Ole was a Liverpool fan as a kid, but we flipped him guys! We did it :lol:

I am very curious to how we are going to approach this. Also, is he going to play mind games with Klopp in presser, or come out with some classic belittling quotes perhaps? It would be an added bonus and some action. The rivalry has not really provided classic games, not like before. Depending on his approach here he might define his history when facing Liverpool in the future too. Get too emotional yourselves you lose track, but if you play them right they end up in your pocket :lol:

Buzzin for this

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
So nothing of substance other than the ridiculous assumption that you had that anyone anti-Sarri was pro-Jose, because the argument made was that Sarri had no experience at big clubs. You have to realize that just because the argument is about Sarri's lack of experience, it does not amount to a defense of Jose because I never said Jose was perfect.

And let's face it, Jose would be considered over Sarri at some clubs even now, in his declining state.

And for your second line, you still lack major reading comprehension. I said Liverpool, a team in form, almost top of the league, is a real test. Not the first test. So, stop trying to wrangle stories out of innocuous posts.

So Chelsea was a test, Liverpool will be real first test? Wonder when will be next test and next real test.

Re Sarri, I have made the point. Not bothered to go in circles again. It's hard for "winning mentaltiy" brigade to understand. Every anti -Sarri isn't pro Jose but you are/were.

MJJ · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
How many times Ole will have "real first test"?

He said the system will have its first real test which is a fair enough comment not ole.

Liverpool are a different animal to Chelsea really, he isn't saying that ole is still to prove himself.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
So Chelsea was a test, Liverpool will be real first test? Wonder when will be next test and next real test.

Again, read my post properly. A team at the top of the league is a real test, or a Top 6 team that is struggling is anything more than a test? I wonder what is even wrong with you, simply spamming for the sake of argument.

Re Sarri, I have made the point. Not bothered to go in circles again. It's hard for "winning mentaltiy" brigade to understand.

Yep, your point that you made has come back to bite you in the arse. My prediction that Sarri would finish 5th at the start of the season is looking good, or maybe just off the mark as he appears even worse than I thought. And no, the "winning mentality" brigade does not automatically equal "Mourinhoista" because Mourinho is not the only winning manager in football.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

MJJ said:
He said the system will have its first real test which is a fair enough comment not ole.

Liverpool are a different animal to Chelsea really, he isn't saying that ole is still to prove himself.

This is I disagree with. Chelsea even when they had lowest point, we couldn't win at Bridge. Chelsea away is always a real test. Just because we nullified them so easily doesn't mean it wasn't "Real" test.

In terms of tough game, Chelsea away > Liverpool at OT.

Ban · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
So Chelsea was a test, Liverpool will be real first test? Wonder when will be next test and next real test.

Re Sarri, I have made the point. Not bothered to go in circles again. It's hard for "winning mentaltiy" brigade to understand. Every anti -Sarri isn't pro Jose but you are/were.

I guess Spurs weren't a 1st real test...

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

Ban said:
I guess Spurs weren't a 1st real test...

We didn't play this system against Spurs though.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
Again, read my post properly. A team at the top of the league is a real test, or a Top 6 team that is struggling is anything more than a test? I wonder what is even wrong with you, simply spamming for the sake of argument.

Yep, your point that you made has come back to bite you in the arse. My prediction that Sarri would finish 5th at the start of the season is looking good, or maybe just off the mark as he appears even worse than I thought. And no, the "winning mentality" brigade does not automatically equal "Mourinhoista" because Mourinho is not the only winning manager in football.

What point? Saying Sarri did superb job at Napoli is not wrong. You are just clueless about it, simple as that.

Again, Stamford bridge game is always real test. Way tougher game than Liverpool at Old Trafford.

MJJ · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
This is I disagree with. Chelsea even when they had lowest point, we couldn't win at Bridge. Chelsea away is always a real test. Just because we nullified them so easily doesn't mean it wasn't "Real" test.

In terms of tough game, Chelsea away > Liverpool at OT.

Hmm that's true, forgot about the home and away part. Anyways what really matter is that we have ole and we are going to smash pool!

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

MJJ said:
Hmm that's true, forgot about the home and away part. Anyways what really matter is that we have ole and we are going to smash pool!

Exactly my point. We haven't won the game at Bridge in years and won only 2-3 times in last 15-20 years. Forget form and all, home games are easier than away games vs top 6 teams.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
What point? Saying Sarri did superb job at Napoli is not wrong.

Again, Stamford bridge game is always real test. Way tougher game than Liverpool at Old Trafford.

Usually it would be. But Sarri has been terrible, and even Mourinho at his lowest ebb almost snatched a win this season at the Bridge. I told Chelsea fans back then that alarm bells should have rung since we were traditionally so bad at their ground, and yet almost had won.

Liverpool at home would probably be more difficult than Chelsea away this season. Anyway, let's see, the game isn't too far off.

kps88 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
We didn't play this system against Spurs though.

Did we not? It looked pretty similar to me with Mata and Lukaku taking the place of Lingard and Martial.

MJJ · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
Exactly my point. We haven't won the game at Bridge in years and won only 2-3 times in last 15-20 years. Forget form and all, home games are easier than away games vs top 6 teams.

Yeah I remember reading a stat that our last 10 away games ended with 2 draws and 8 loses to Chelsea. To go and completely nullify them in that way is impressive.

Kapardin · Feb 19, 2019

kps88 said:
Did we not? It looked pretty similar to me with Mata and Lukaku taking the place of Lingard and Martial.

Not like this, with Mata in the middle. Lukaku and Rashford wide stretching their defenders, it was an impressive tactical adjustment Ole debuted against Chelsea to paper over our injuries.

SSSSnake · Feb 19, 2019

ErranMorad said:
Can't see us losing this, tbh. The worst the result we'll get is a draw, imo. Good 6 days break so I would go with the similar line-up to last night.

De Gea
Young Smalling Lindelof Shaw
Matic
Herrera Pogba
Mata
Rashford...........Sanchez

Think we'll get a jammy 2-1 win.

I’d still play Lukaku ahead of Sanchez.

kps88 · Feb 19, 2019

MJJ said:
Yeah I remember reading a stat that our last 10 away games ended with 2 draws and 8 loses to Chelsea. To go and completely nullify them in that way is impressive.

Also read it's just the second time in 50 odd games that Chelsea have failed to score at home.

roonster09 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
Usually it would be. But Sarri has been terrible, and even Mourinho at his lowest ebb almost snatched a win this season at the Bridge. I told Chelsea fans back then that alarm bells should have rung since we were traditionally so bad at their ground, and yet almost had won.

Liverpool at home would probably be more difficult than Chelsea away this season. Anyway, let's see, the game isn't too far off.

Chelsea smashed City at Bridge and IIRC beat Spurs too at Bridge. Liverpool got a point because of Struddige's wonder goal in last min.

I think the disagreement is with how you rate home and away game. For me any team at home is easier than away game vs top 6 teams.

kps88 · Feb 19, 2019

Kapardin said:
Not like this, with Mata in the middle. Lukaku and Rashford wide stretching their defenders, it was an impressive tactical adjustment Ole debuted against Chelsea to paper over our injuries.

That was the same system as against Spurs and Arsenal. We just had to change a couple of players because of injuries.

Josh 76 · Feb 19, 2019

The postives going into this game are:

1. Confidence must be through the roof after last night.
2. Ole knows what it means to best these, more than anyone manager we have had since Fergie.
3. Our defence and midfield are playing well and clicking as a unit.
4. Rashford is on fire.

Negatives.

1. Lukuka will play
2. Or Sanchez will play

Irrational. · Feb 19, 2019

westmeath said:
Team selection boils down to one choice, Lukaku or Sanchez. Rom had a poor game against Chelsea but Sanchez hasn’t been much better lately. One of these guys has to find form at some stage. Not sure why but I would go for Lukaku for this one.

Who do you expect to partner Lindelof at the back?

Smalling is only just back from injury and Jones is Jones. I'd be tempted to go with Bailly.

Melville Red · Feb 19, 2019

That big nose scouse Thompson “if we win on Sunday we win the league, simple as that”
Well it’s a bloody big IF bigger than your fecking nose Thompson and that’s going some.
I was really looking forward to the Chelsea game and I wasn’t disappointed.
To say I’m looking forward to Sunday is an understatement of magnitudial proportions. Bigger than Thompson’s fecking nose even!
Do you know what would really make me laugh?
A dodgy penalty awarded to us in the 90th minute and Pogba smashes it into the net. 1-0, Klopp braces himself, and is heard shouting NEiN, NEiN, SWINEHUNT, NEIN and is carted off to the scouse coach in a straight jacket.

Obviously I’d prefer 3-0 so I can relax and enjoy the last five minutes with my feet up.

Denis' cuff · Feb 19, 2019

Melville Red said:
That big nose scouse Thompson “if we win on Sunday we win the league, simple as that”
Well it’s a bloody big IF bigger than your fecking nose Thompson and that’s going some.
I was really looking forward to the Chelsea game and I wasn’t disappointed.
To say I’m looking forward to Sunday is an understatement of magnitudial proportions. Bigger than Thompson’s fecking nose even!
Do you know what would really make me laugh?
A dodgy penalty awarded to us in the 90th minute and Pogba smashes it into the net. 1-0, Klopp braces himself, and is heard shouting NEiN, NEiN, SWINEHUNT, NEIN and is carted off to the scouse coach in a straight jacket.

Obviously I’d prefer 3-0 so I can relax and enjoy the last five minutes with my feet up.

Same here mate. A winner in the 7th minute of injury time after they had two penalties denied and two offside goals struck off would be beyond joy.. not sure I could endure it all though.

A nice 3-0 ht lead would do me nicely (... and yep, I remember)

shaky · Feb 19, 2019

roonster09 said:
So Chelsea was a test, Liverpool will be real first test? Wonder when will be next test and next real test.

Re Sarri, I have made the point. Not bothered to go in circles again. It's hard for "winning mentaltiy" brigade to understand. Every anti -Sarri isn't pro Jose but you are/were.

It's amazing how every hard test we come up against gets redefined as "not that hard" a test after we pass it.

oLeSoLsKjAeR20 · Feb 19, 2019

I booked my flights for this game about 3 months ago. Fair to say I wasn't even looking forward to it. Now, thanks to wee Ole, I am completely buzzing! That result and performance last night has filled me with confidence going into Sunday. Hopefully Liverpool have a tough, tiring night against Bayern and I'm not ashamed to say I'll love it if there are a few injuries! Before all the do gooders come at me, no broken limbs, just a few minor knocks to put them out for Sunday! Salah, Mane, Van Dijk should suffice please and thank you Bayern!

Trizy · Feb 19, 2019

I'll say it again, Liverpool have been far from great this season. They've only had about 2 good months of great football before Christmas and everything else was either grinded our due to extreme cases of luck.

They have the quality to beat us, of course. I wouldn't fear them at Home though.

londonredmaniac · Feb 19, 2019

Just win. Don't care how.

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