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Manchester United 2:1 Liverpool

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    2 man midfield

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    Annoying how De Gea seems to need Henderson around to actually perform. Still, no chance of him being dropped. Can see us going for a back 3, hopefully without Maguire but we all know he’ll play. New CM signing by then as well hopefully and they’ll have to start as we can’t afford to ease them in slowly.

    ———————De Gea———————
    ——-Varane-Maguire-Martinez—-
    Dalot———Rabiot-Fred—-Malacia
    ———————-Eriksen———————
    —————Sancho-Ronaldo————-
     

    gregwar

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    Pinning all hopes on this getting called off again. If not:

    Heaton
    Laird/AWB (ffs) - Varane - Lindelof - Malacia
    Eriksen - Garner - Hannibal
    Sancho(?) - Ronaldo (?) - Garnacho

    A proper struggle picking that. Give the lads who might actually give a f**k a chance.
     

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    I‘m tempted to say MU will turn up for this one and win, because that is what often happens in a game like this after losing. Just what we need.

    But seriously, I‘m crapping my pants.
    No chance, too many cowards
     

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    Pinning all hopes on this getting called off again. If not:

    Heaton
    Laird/AWB (ffs) - Varane - Lindelof - Malacia
    Eriksen - Garner - Hannibal
    Sancho(?) - Ronaldo (?) - Garnacho

    A proper struggle picking that. Give the lads who might actually give a f**k a chance.
    Decent
     

    always_hoping

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    Obvious defeat 3rd league defeat coming up but is it too much to ask to make Liverpool work hard for their goals instead of gifting goals.

    No DeGea, Shaw, Maguire, Fred, Rashford in the starting line up please
     

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    Pinning all hopes on this getting called off again. If not:

    Heaton
    Laird/AWB (ffs) - Varane - Lindelof - Malacia
    Eriksen - Garner - Hannibal
    Sancho(?) - Ronaldo (?) - Garnacho

    A proper struggle picking that. Give the lads who might actually give a f**k a chance.
    I like your thinking. At least we would see some effort.

    Personally I think we should play 7 at the back and go for a 0 - 0 draw.

    De Gea
    Bailly/Jones Martinez Varane Maguire Lindelof
    Malacia Fred Mctominay Wan Bissaka
    Elanga

    At half-time sub in Rashford or Garnacho for Elanga and if its still close in the last 10 minutes throw on Ronaldo, Sancho and Bruno or Erickson.
     

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    ———————De Gea———————
    —AWB—-Varane-Maguire-Martinez—Shaw-
    -----------———Mct-Fred—--------------------
    ——Sancho-------------——Bruno——-
    ------------------Ronaldo------------------------

    And pray for 0-0.
    Second half, Rashford for Ronaldo, Eriksen for Bruno.
     

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    If we keep the score down to 2 or 3 its a big improvement. If I said this to myself even 5 years ago when we were shit, I would have thought I was being ridiculous. How the mighty have fallen.
     

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    People putting Garnarcho, Laird and Garner in the team as if they're going to be put anywhere near the first 11. Will be the most unimaginative line up possible with the same levels of performance. Rinse and repeat.

    0-5
     

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    Honestly can't see anything but an absolute hammering.

    ETH won't back down from trying to play his style (Rightly so) but the players aren't good enough to do it and are also extremely mentally weak.

    I really think this will be 5 or 6-0.

    Hope I'm wrong.
     

    17Larsson

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    I hope ETH puts out the same team and just says this is your chance, clean slate, give me 100%. Anyone who buckles under the pressure or messes up is dropped for an extended period. Might actually see some fight from some of them and then we give much changed XI a chance against Soton.
    Yeah this is what I want. We're not going to win whatever team we put out so let these lads face Liverpool and see what fight they have in them.
    Replace all the lads that roll over for the Southampton game
     

    justboy68

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    If they wanted to they could beat us 12-0, but like what always happens it will be 3 up after about 20 minutes then they will take the foot off the gas a bit. Only 6-0 in the end.
     

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    The lineups with a back seven have the right idea. Abandon possession or a high line for this match. Try to keep the score respectable and get away with a 0-0 if possible.

    We can then regroup for Saints and try to get some away points on the board for the first time in eight games.
     

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    Heaton, AWB Bailly Varane Martinez Malacia, Fred Jones, Eriksen, Sancho Martial.

    Shrugs
     

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    There wont be many (if any) changes to the team, unless we miraculously sign 6 players between now and then and integrate them all by Monday.
    Even losing 5-0 won’t be as bad as getting humiliated by Brentford :(
     

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    I completely agree with the sentiment of all those calling for 352….

    but Liverpool are the worst team to play wingbacks against.

    All their strength is out wide and they will just double up on us.
     

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    I don’t think it will be a cricket score. I feel Liverpool will play a tight game and win a comfortable 0-2. Don’t think United have enough creativity to beat their press or physicality to beat the Pool defense with long balls.
    EtH will be under huge pressure going into the Southampton game. You could easily end up with 2 points after 6 games, 12-16 points behind Arsenal and Spurs. Imagine being out of the top-4 race within your first 6 games. Can’t see EtH in the job after this season.
     

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    Would be as good a time as ever to try Martinez out as a DM and play a 3 man midfield.

    Martinez
    Eriksen Fred​
     

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    They'll go 2-0 up and Klopp will put the brakes on and coast to the win while his team toy with our midfield.
     

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    Heaton

    Dalot (only because there is no other choice)
    Varane
    Lindelöf (or Bailly)
    Malacia

    Martinez
    Fred
    Eriksen

    Rashford
    Martial
    Sancho

    DDG, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno and Ronaldo all dropped for being garbage so far this season and a hiderence to the way we want to play.

    The front three showed some kind of connection in preseason and the changes add a bit more athleticism which is needed clearly.

    Make Heaton captain as no other deserves it and no one can cry about it if he gets it.
     

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    I dont think ETH is going to adjust his strategy. That would be admitting his tactical approach is a failure after just two game weeks.

    With that in mind:
    Utd 1:8 Liverpool is my prediction

    4 goals to come from playing out errors/pressing turnovers. 3 from sloppy no clue defending. 1 world class goal.

    Dont even care anymore. I'm beyond being emotionally invested in a club rotten to the core that unlike any other organisation I can remember has somehow confounded even the worst purveyors of failure by making error after error after error in EVERY regard throughout the club. 10 years of compound failure.

    Pantomime. Actually, I watched The Show That Goes Wrong at the theatre recently. Our very own Theatre is doing its best impression.
     

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    I really think Martinez should be used as a DM or maybe a LB or RB.

    It's clear he has quality but it's also clear that a guy of his size is not cut out to be an EPL CB.
     

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    Could be the highest ever victory in a PL game. They won’t show any mercy.
     

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    No appetite for mass changes here and certainly this is not the game to throw the youngsters into. I don't want to be setting people up to fail, the big earners at the club need to grow a pair and actually compete in this one. I am sure we all probably expected a poor result in this one even before the last two games due to the gulf between the sides but showing a bit of pride will matter. We do need a bit more fight in the team and some of the incompetence from Brentford cannot be ignored so I would switch some of the senior players around just to up the physical side of things.

    DDG

    AWB Maguire Varane Malacia

    McTominay VDB

    Sancho Bruno Rashford

    Ronaldo
    Toyed with the idea of Heaton in goal but whilst I do want DDG out in the longer run, in the short term he is still a better keeper and after Brentford he is going to be seriously motivated to put in a performance and you know shot stopping will be needed here. AWB over Dalot, both are awful and not even Championship quality but in a game where we will be getting battered those sliding tackles might be worth the lack of any other attribute. Tallest and best headers at CB. Could not stomach Fred and McTominay together so again I opted for the more physical player of the two as he will at least kick someone and not get bullied like Fred has in the last two games and by default Donny really is the best alternative as I am unconvinced by Eriksen in a deeper role and after Brentford I think he may have PTSD and another battering might finish him off as a United player. Very much a horses for courses line up with an eye to integrating new players and hopefully a couple of our best youngsters once this hurdle is out of the way.
     

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    ETH has to change his tactics to match the (low) level of the players we have. We cannot play out of the back against Liverpool's press. It has to be defend first, counter attack to even have a chance.
     

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    ETH has to change his tactics to match the (low) level of the players we have. We cannot play out of the back against Liverpool's press. It has to be defend first, counter attack to even have a chance.
    Surely ETH isn’t that naive. He just needs to look at last seasons game. The one that got OLE the sack!
     

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    No appetite for mass changes here and certainly this is not the game to throw the youngsters into. I don't want to be setting people up to fail, the big earners at the club need to grow a pair and actually compete in this one. I am sure we all probably expected a poor result in this one even before the last two games due to the gulf between the sides but showing a bit of pride will matter. We do need a bit more fight in the team and some of the incompetence from Brentford cannot be ignored so I would switch some of the senior players around just to up the physical side of things.

    DDG

    AWB Maguire Varane Malacia

    McTominay VDB

    Sancho Bruno Rashford

    Ronaldo
    Toyed with the idea of Heaton in goal but whilst I do want DDG out in the longer run, in the short term he is still a better keeper and after Brentford he is going to be seriously motivated to put in a performance and you know shot stopping will be needed here. AWB over Dalot, both are awful and not even Championship quality but in a game where we will be getting battered those sliding tackles might be worth the lack of any other attribute. Tallest and best headers at CB. Could not stomach Fred and McTominay together so again I opted for the more physical player of the two as he will at least kick someone and not get bullied like Fred has in the last two games and by default Donny really is the best alternative as I am unconvinced by Eriksen in a deeper role and after Brentford I think he may have PTSD and another battering might finish him off as a United player. Very much a horses for courses line up with an eye to integrating new players and hopefully a couple of our best youngsters once this hurdle is out of the way.
    This team will get blown apart!
     

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    Greasy fingers

    Dalot
    Maguire
    Varane
    Martinez
    Malacia

    Fred
    Eriksen
    Bruno

    Sancho
    Ronaldo
     

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    The lineups with a back seven have the right idea. Abandon possession or a high line for this match. Try to keep the score respectable and get away with a 0-0 if possible.

    We can then regroup for Saints and try to get some away points on the board for the first time in eight games.
    This is the only approach. I remember when Liverpool were flying a couple of seasons ago and won their first 9 or 10 fixtures. Ole played a counter attacking team that day and UTD were brilliant. That Utd team was no better than we have now. Surely it’s about getting the right tactics. All this talk about 5 or 6 nil is bonkers. Even the worst team ever in the PL (Derby) had game plans against the best teams and never got steam rolled. The great UTD 2008 team only beat them 1-0 that season.
     

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    This team will get blown apart!
    Any team we send out is going to get blown apart but I would rather the chumps who got us in this mess own the result rather than toss a bunch of youngsters to the lions. One more abject stinkfest and then we can start trying to build upwards. I probably should have clarified that for about half of the players in that line-up it should be their final appearance for the club.
     

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    Not what I think we will play, but what I think we SHOULD play;


    ——————— De Gea
    AWB — Varane — Maguire — Malacia
    ——————— Rabiot
    ———— McT ———— Eriksen
    Garnacho ———————————— Elanga
    ——————— Rashford


    AWB can do a job against Diaz, and Malacia will hopefully have the energy to contain Salah. I’m not really worried about Nunez, pretty sure Varane and Maguire could handle him.

    Like it or not, we lacked McTominays physicality against Brentford. In a derby against Liverpool I can see Ten Hag wanting a fighter in the middle, with Eriksen alongside providing the composure and able to pick out one of the front three if/when we get a chance to break. If we don’t have Rabiot signed, I would be tempted to stick Martinez in the holding role.

    Front three is far from ideal, but I don’t think Martial will be ready for this one. Elanga and Garnacho will hopefully have the energy and workrate to track Liverpools FBs, and enough pace to break forward on the counter when we can. Rashford up front for the same reason.

    Don’t try to be clever, sit deep and try to hit them on the counter through Eriksen or Maguire.
     

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    Forfeiting the game would see the result recorded as a 3-0 defeat for us.

    Given that the majority of the Caf (according to the pre-match poll) expect us to lose at least 5-0, a forfeit seems like quite a palatable option.
     

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    If the game does not take place because of the fans doing something, like they did last it, how is that going to help, all its will mean is the club is fined and docked points.
    What did last time do ? It did feck all.
    Team is still shite , Glaziers are still the owners, nothing changed.
    The game must be played and with the same team that played at Brentford.
    The players need to get out there and win the fans back, feck it I don't care if we lose, if we lose actually playing football and showing passion for the shirt they are wearing, if we lose and I can say well at least they lost trying and looked like they want to play, then that will be something.
    I am sick of being embarrassed I am a United fan, sick of watching us play dreadful football.
    I want to be proud to be a United fan again.
     
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Detailed Results

  • 21% Man Utd 0:5 Liverpool
  • 12% Man Utd 0:3 Liverpool
  • 11% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
  • 9% Man Utd 1:3 Liverpool
  • 8% Man Utd 0:4 Liverpool
  • 5% Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
  • 4% Man Utd 1:4 Liverpool
  • 4% Man Utd 0:2 Liverpool
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
  • 3% Man Utd 2:0 Liverpool
  • 3% Man Utd 1:2 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 2:2 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 0:9 Liverpool
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 3:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 0:6 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 3:2 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 1:5 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 9:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 4:0 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 1:7 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 0:7 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 2:4 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 1:6 Liverpool
  • 0% Man Utd 7:6 Liverpool
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Possession
30% 70%
Shots
12 17
Shots on Target
4 5
Corners
6 8
Fouls
11 7

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