Manchester United 2:2 Sevilla

bdspeedy · Apr 13, 2023

MackRobinson said:
They are responsible for the last 10 minutes? I'm confused

We have no f-ing bench. Good for you if you disagree

MackRobinson said:
They are responsible for the last 10 minutes? I'm confused

Gavinb33 said:
Like what the feck was he meant to do that header wasn't even on target it hit him in the face like he had a chance to do anything else you guys are something else fecking hell

He is dogshit. Nowhere near top 10 premiership level.

I’m loving my life · Apr 13, 2023

There are some extremely spoilt fans here.

Anustart89 said:
Last week everyone were on his back for not rotating the side and getting Rashford injured. Now he takes the opportunity to rotate at 2-0 up (remember, Martial's still being eased in) and now everyone is on his back for doing the exact thing they were mad at him for not doing last week.

Can't win.

Nick7 · Apr 13, 2023

ScarleyUtd said:
Disagree, defensively they were shite but going forward they were half decent. They could have scored just before half time. And yeah, you get lucky if you're in the other team's box a lot, which they were in the last 20 mins. We let our foot off the gas the entire second half, brought on the second string and here we are.

They’re shite going forward too. We should have beaten them comfortably. We should be beating them comfortably away. Football isn’t like that though but it doesn’t change that they’re fecking shite.

Rayman96 · Apr 13, 2023

Even if it an achilles injury (which was just a comment by Ian Darke that everyone jumped on) its very rare to completely snap it. Most are varying degrees of ruptures or tears which are 100% recoverable.
I think we are way overreacting here

Hester_manc · Apr 13, 2023

cpresc said:
hang on a minute, how on earth was Martinez injury the managers fault?!

It his the managers fault that we have to go to Sevilla and win now, which is going to be hard without the 2 players. Had ETH not made his stupid subs, we would never have been in a situation, where we have to go to Spain and win (which will be more difficult with Martinez and Bruno)

Josep Dowling · Apr 13, 2023

Gavinb33 said:
Like what the feck was he meant to do that header wasn't even on target it hit him in the face like he had a chance to do anything else you guys are something else fecking hell

You say that but how many times does Maguire end up in these situations?

RopersReturn · Apr 13, 2023

We’re absolutely dreadful at playing out from the back as well. There’s a set pattern where neither Maguire or AWB are able to simultaneously move and pass accurately, DeGea then panics and either punches the ball into the path of the opponent or kicks it out for a throw in. Time and again this happens!

Suedesi · Apr 13, 2023

LordSpud said:
Dalot at LB? Lindelof? Maguire? Who you proposing to play there instead?

The leftback should not let the ball bounce after a 40 yard crossfield pass. I don't know if it's lack of comms with De Gea or just a brainfart, but that was so basic.

Maureen-yo · Apr 13, 2023

Rayman96 said:
Even if it an achilles injury (which was just a comment by Ian Darke that everyone jumped on) its very rare to completely snap it. Most are varying degrees of ruptures or tears which are 100% recoverable.
I think we are way overreacting here

100%, to me it looked more like ankle ligaments as he slightly rolled it as he was landing/pushing off.
Amazing how everyone has diagnosed it as a snapped Achilles on the back of the Darke comments and Robbie Savage saying that it could be that even though he even admitted he had never seen anyone do it and hadn’t experienced it himself.

Superunknown · Apr 13, 2023

Maureen-yo said:
He’s won over 72% of the games he’s been in charge for at United but yeah he’s not good enough

Didn't say he was a bad manager at all. I said that the shine has gone for me. He does many things right, and he also gets some (depending on who you ask, maybe more than some) things not right. He didn't manage this game right. You simply can't go from 2-0 and being completely comfortable and in control at half-time in a quarter final European game to drawing 2-2. That's on him completely, he's the manager and the one in control.

I’m loving my life · Apr 13, 2023

We were on top but didn’t capitalise.

Their first goal was fairly lucky

Then we went down to ten

Then they were in the ascendancy

The whining is pathetic and damaging to the fan base and club

MackRobinson · Apr 13, 2023

bdspeedy said:
We have no f-ing bench. Good for you if you disagree

Glazers are trash owners but they didn't handpick the players. Weird time to scapegoat them.

cpresc · Apr 13, 2023

UnitedSofa said:
Because he’s the defender? Maybe? Just a thought….

he’s about 2 foot deeper than anyone else along the line

Maureen-yo · Apr 13, 2023

Superunknown said:
Didn't say he was a bad manager at all. I said that the shine has gone for me. He does many things right, and he also gets some (depending on who you ask, maybe more than some) things not right. He didn't manage this game right. You simply can't go from 2-0 and being completely comfortable and in control at half-time in a quarter final European game to drawing 2-2. That's on him completely, he's the manager and the one in control.

Fair enough, out of interest, what did you feel that he did he not do right tonight? Maybe Bruno sub but the other subs were pretty much necessary due to injuries or avoiding potential injuries.

RedStarUnited · Apr 13, 2023

zaafi said:
He had an assist that was barely offside, and then almost a beautiful goal that hit the crossbar. Overall a great performance.

Are you on holidays in USA trying their latest crack by any chance?

im adamant he need to dribble inside and pass on that chance.

Maybe I just see the game better than you.

zaafi · Apr 13, 2023

RedStarUnited said:
im adamant he need to dribble inside and pass on that chance.

Maybe I just see the game better than you.

Or maybe you're just clueless and blindly watch stats. "0 goals 0 assists" :lol:

Mou Mou Land · Apr 13, 2023

I was sitting tucking into the remnants of the super meatfeast pizza [ASDA 4.99] when he sent Elanga and Weghorst on together. The only time in my life where I have thought that in my semi pissed and gorged state, I could pose more threat upfront than our 'attack'.

And to think, I used to complain about SAF using Sheringham and Solskjaer as subs ...................

Superunknown · Apr 13, 2023

Maureen-yo said:
Fair enough, out of interest, what did you feel that he did he not do right tonight? Maybe Bruno sub but the other subs were pretty much necessary due to injuries or avoiding potential injuries.

I thought the intensity was the issue. The passing significantly dropped off in the second half. In the first half, the movement is better, the passes were better, the control of the game was better. The second half, yes there were chances and Antony was unlucky not to score, but we weren't clinical and didn't put the game to bed. The passes seems to go wayward and mistakes kept creeping in, individual poor mistakes. Malacia didn't have a good game at all and made costly errors in the second half. We were too complacent and, dare I say it, it was a lazy second half performance. I had far more of an issue with that rather than the specific substitutions. Squad rotation is important, but the message should always be the same no matter who is on the pitch. You keep it tidy, neat, and tight. We didn't do that at all.

RedStarUnited · Apr 13, 2023

zaafi said:
Or maybe you're just clueless and blindly watch stats. "0 goals 0 assists"

I guess. i went to the Antony thread and few other people were as blind and clueless just like me.

zaafi · Apr 13, 2023

RedStarUnited said:
I guess. i went to the Antony thread and few other people were as blind and clueless just like me.

Have a look again. Most are praising him but some are disappointed in his decision making. None, except you, are saying he's shit.

mav_9me · Apr 13, 2023

Fooza said:
You don't understand common sense do you? You moan about many games coming up. How about leaving your top players killing off the game so you the 2nd leg you can rest

Instead, it's backfired and we can't rest in the second leg.

If you can't be respectful, have a good day.

bdspeedy · Apr 13, 2023

MackRobinson said:
Glazers are trash owners but they didn't handpick the players. Weird time to scapegoat them.

We're still in 3 competitions and have NO BENCH because the owners have bled the team dry. Call it scapegoating if you want to but it's THEIR TEAM and the blame falls on them.

RedRocket9908 · Apr 13, 2023

It was poor the way we through that away and it was bizarre to take off expirianced players and bring on barely used fringe players like the awful Anthony Elanga, I thought Antony played well and shouldnt have been taken off.

Its going to be tough next week in Seville needing to win without Rashford, Bruno, Rafa, and Martinez available.

Maureen-yo · Apr 13, 2023

Superunknown said:
I thought the intensity was the issue. The passing significantly dropped off in the second half. In the first half, the movement is better, the passes were better, the control of the game was better. The second half, yes there were chances and Antony was unlucky not to score, but we weren't clinical and didn't put the game to bed. The passes seems to go wayward and mistakes kept creeping in, individual poor mistakes. Malacia didn't have a good game at all and made costly errors in the second half. We were too complacent and, dare I say it, it was a lazy second half performance. I had far more of an issue with that rather than the specific substitutions. Squad rotation is important, but the message should always be the same no matter who is on the pitch. You keep it tidy, neat, and tight. We didn't do that at all.

Agreed the intensity dropped, thought that was down to Varane and martial going off. Worrying though that the drop in class is so big when he makes changes. I’m not sure how ETH can effect that intensity drop with the quality available on the bench though?

The Brown Bull · Apr 13, 2023

crossy1686 said:
It was a save, but I wouldn't call it great, it was alright.

Whatever.

georgipep · Apr 14, 2023

Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
He's a great option as a rotation. Better him than McT stinking the gaff up

You should ask yourself why is he still at Southampton

freddie the red · Apr 14, 2023

crossy1686 said:
It's a career ender, go and check players who have had the injury previously then wobble your head

Thankfully it looks like it's not an achilles, but, even if it was, like all injuries it CAN be career ending but not definitively.
I bet Leeds wished Ebere Eze wasn't playing on the weekend.

Big Andy · Apr 14, 2023

Our inability to put games to bed is starting to piss me off. We were 2-0 up inside 25 minutes. After half time we offered no threat going forward at all.

crossy1686 · Apr 14, 2023

freddie the red said:
Thankfully it looks like it's not an achilles, but, even if it was, like all injuries it CAN be career ending but not definitively.
I bet Leeds wished Ebere Eze wasn't playing on the weekend.

Yeah totally, massive relief to be honest. It's very rare that players who rupture their Achilles return to anything close to the player they formally were, that was my big worry. We can cope with him being out injured, but we can't cope with another defender that we need to sell in a couple of years because he's lost any pace or ability he had to play at this level.

LawCharltonBest · Apr 14, 2023

Sevilla to progress and Lamela (who would've seen red on another day) to score the winner is printing money.

Sort of thing seems to happen all the time

RedIan · Apr 14, 2023

Maureen-yo said:
Agreed the intensity dropped, thought that was down to Varane and martial going off. Worrying though that the drop in class is so big when he makes changes. I’m not sure how ETH can effect that intensity drop with the quality available on the bench though?

we were fantastic first half. Lets not loose sight of that.
The bench players are substandard. Taking off Varane Martial Anthony Bruno was a step to far and killed us. That said you can see reasons for each sub,
varane was injured, Anthony and Bruno both on yellows and Martial not played a full game for months.

The bench need to be equal level first teamers so the team can be rotated more often and avoid injuries from over playing. more investment needed but there are also some very good young players coming through. Mainoo for one deserves more first team minutes for one.

Hackman2210 · Apr 14, 2023

We just lost our composure totally! Added to the fact that 2 early goals made us think it was a walk in the park......I think we can go there and win. I'd partner Shaw with Varane if fit. Bring in Dalot and Malacia. Casemiro, Erikson, Mct, Martial, Antony, Sancho. Why not? Its not like we fecking lost. McT has been a beast for the last 2 games - get him in for the away leg. See you all at the semi final - Juve, cant wait.

Heinzesight · Apr 14, 2023

We play that second half again and 9 times out of 10 we win three or four nil. There’s a lot of bad luck in there coupled with complacency and some inexperience. Hopefully some of the players learn from this and focus on how well we did first half.

Maureen-yo · Apr 14, 2023

RedIan said:
we were fantastic first half. Lets not loose sight of that.
The bench players are substandard. Taking off Varane Martial Anthony Bruno was a step to far and killed us. That said you can see reasons for each sub,
varane was injured, Anthony and Bruno both on yellows and Martial not played a full game for months.

The bench need to be equal level first teamers so the team can be rotated more often and avoid injuries from over playing. more investment needed but there are also some very good young players coming through. Mainoo for one deserves more first team minutes for one.

Agreed and that’s why I don’t think it’s on ETH as all subs were warranted but maybe staggered…

vanrooney · Apr 14, 2023

Dazzmondo said:
The performance had already worsened dramatically. By the end of the game Sevilla had more shots on goal than we had, which is ridiculous when you consider how dominant we were in the 1st half, especially before the stamp on Casemiro.

if antony had scored and not hit the post, the game would have been over. yes malacia should have just kicked it away but i cant understand anyone who thinks the 2-2 was a fair result.

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