Manchester United 1:0 Watford

RedIan · Jan 9, 2021

Well we started well looked bright for 25 minutes. Nice crisp passing. i actually thought James started well and looked the biggest threat, let himself down with the final balls a couple of times. Whilst well in control We look Light weight upfront, greenwood keeps drifting wide when he needs to play centre half..
could probably swop lingard off for ighalo as we have too many midfielder and not enough strikers.

unfortuate knock for Bailly but doesnt look like a long term injury.

Ramshock · Jan 9, 2021

lsd said:
I am totally sick of watching Eric Bailly getting injured. He just wastes a substitution when he starts.

I hope we get rid of him as soon as we can . Totally waste of space

you are a cheerful fella arent ya

Adam-Utd · Jan 9, 2021

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Bailly seems to put himself in a lot of situations where he can get injured.

He’s a central defender about to head a high ball coming back into the box? I’d be annoyed if he wasn’t there :lol:

henderson is the 1 who needs to be blamed if anything. He’s come flying out of nowhere to try and punch a risky ball that didn’t even need it, and now he’s injured a player.

but yeah let’s blame Bailly for doing his job.

TrustInJanuzaj · Jan 9, 2021

One Night Only said:
He seems good wherever he is on the ball tbh. Few lovely touches round the box today.

I agree but he can disappear for longer periods at number 10. I personally like him starting from deeper where he gets more involved and can naturally progress forwards. Controversial but I think him, Mata and Lingard have rotated well, just a lack of end quality and product.

charlenefan · Jan 9, 2021

Only thing I really want from this game is a goal for Greenwood, but he hasn't looked like getting one so far

Jonno · Jan 9, 2021

TrustInJanuzaj said:
I hope not, VDB just seems mikes better when he’s on the ball in deep areas.

Disagree. Pass of the game was a delicate flick to put Mata one on one with the keeper. Inside the box

Jonno · Jan 9, 2021

charlenefan said:
Only thing I really want from this game is a goal for Greenwood, but he hasn't looked like getting one so far

He thinks he’s playing on the wing, he needs to learn to hold his position up top

Adnan · Jan 9, 2021

Some are blaming Bailly for getting injured.. :houllier:

Adam-Utd · Jan 9, 2021

charlenefan said:
Only thing I really want from this game is a goal for Greenwood, but he hasn't looked like getting one so far

Looks like he’s lost a lot of confidence, I think he could do with a few reserve games again to get that spark back.

this is the issue with playing him on the wing, they almost forget what made them so good in the first place.

kouroux · Jan 9, 2021

simonhch said:
Who's blaming him? Lots of people are just saying he always gets injured. It's one of the undisputable facts of life that he'll manage 3-4 games then get injured. Knee to the head, pulled hamstring, snapped banjo string.....barely matters anymore. He always gets injured.

It's a game of contact and this was really unlucky. Anybody could have been hit and replaced, Bailly being the victim here doesn't say anything. It feels very cnutish to go in on him for this. Like this what you were patiently waiting for

RUCK4444 · Jan 9, 2021

TrustInJanuzaj said:
I’m not really sure where this view is coming from though? He’s only made one bad mistake. Aside from that he’s played very well. Played well against city the other night too.

No it’s not that he’s dropping clangers, it’s just a vibe that he gives off tbh.

I could be wrong but I know what the other poster was referring to.

He seems a bit flappy at crosses, that run out to Sarr was a bit nuts, I’m not a fan of his punching of the ball which again is a touch flappy.

I don’t think it’s anything major but I just don’t see what the fuss was over, but it’s early days and I saw very little of him on loan so I could be talking through my @rse.

Rustyspider13 · Jan 9, 2021

Bailly is so unlucky, have to feel for him. Hope it's not too bad.

It's been a mixed game. We've played some good stuff, Mata and VdB unsurprisingly linking well. Pressing's good, decision making bad. One more quality attacker on and we'd be 3-0 up. The only chances Watford have had came from our own bad passes.

We don't have a player on the pitch who can hit long passes accurately. If VdB can add that to his game, he'd be a nailed on starter. But currently you can see his strength lies in the Bruno position which he isn't going to get. He's done well in terms of quick but safe ball progression and tackling.

calodo2003 · Jan 9, 2021

Thing is with Henderson, it’s that his current irritants are correctable. More appropriately, tone down-able. With proper coaching, it’s far easier to have a player eliminate something in his game to improve than to need to coach something into him.

He doesn’t seem to have the potential ceiling of a DDG, but he offers us a different style.

lex talionis · Jan 9, 2021

Some pretty disgraceful studs-showing posts on Bailly here for a clattering that was in no universe his fault.

lsd · Jan 9, 2021

kouroux said:
Have a word with yourself. Some of you pricks are actually blaming him for this. You should be ashamed of yourselves

He is totally soft and a waste there is no excusing the amount of games he misses anc the games he starts yet goes of injured.

Just happens time and time again there is no point in having him

TrustInJanuzaj · Jan 9, 2021

Bebestation said:
I find his runs in the box and his short one twos are better. His back heel to Mata is the type of thing he does. He is a deadly player in the box and it is why he is regarded like Muller to people because he can read the spaces in the box quite well.

In the midfield he is okay but I feel he goes missing and his passing isnt a wide range as it needs to be.

He did well for that flick to mata but even starting from deep there’s nothing stopping him getting into advanced areas. I do largely disagree though, he’s been underwhelming as a number 10 and doesn’t get involved enough. Look at a player like Bruno for comparison. I think his best hope at Utd is to become a deeper player in the mold of a modric which I think he’s capable of in time.

Toad · Jan 9, 2021

Has anyone ever been sent off for dangerous play against their own team mate?

sunama · Jan 9, 2021

Alemar said:
Lingard was more useless than him today. James at least had a few shots, including one on target

To be fair, doing better than Lingard should not be the standard our players aim for. Lingard should be playing in the Championship. In saying this, he does tend to do well against Championship sides, so he may score today.
I'd never play him against an EPL team, though.

poleglass red · Jan 9, 2021

He got a knee to the head. Couldn't they have waited, let him recover n come out for 2nd half

RedDevil@84 · Jan 9, 2021

Get VdB in place of Lingard and let Mata and VdB call the shots.

Jonno · Jan 9, 2021

RUCK4444 said:
No it’s not that he’s dropping clangers, it’s just a vibe that he gives off tbh.

I could be wrong but I know what the other poster was referring to.

He seems a bit flappy at crosses, that run out to Sarr was a bit nuts, I’m not a fan of his punching of the ball which again is a touch flappy.

I don’t think it’s anything major but I just don’t see what the fuss was over, but it’s early days and I saw very little of him on loan so I could be talking through my @rse.

His performance has been very good tonight, strange post. Defended his goal and box very well.

RUCK4444 · Jan 9, 2021

Adam-Utd said:
Looks like he’s lost a lot of confidence, I think he could do with a few reserve games again to get that spark back.

this is the issue with playing him on the wing, they almost forget what made them so good in the first place.

This has been my concern with him shunted on the wing for Martial.

I got pelted for it. It’s not good for his progression and a player of his calibre needs to be fine tuning his trade in his correct position.

lsd · Jan 9, 2021

calodo2003 said:
Thing is with Henderson, it’s that his current irritants are correctable. More appropriately, tone down-able. With proper coaching, it’s far easier to have a player eliminate something in his game to improve than to need to coach something into him.

He doesn’t seem to have the potential ceiling of a DDG, but he offers us a different style.

I hope so as the more i see of him the less convinced i am about him

Mcking · Jan 9, 2021

Godfather said:
Yeah? Saw a single post blaming Henderson. Not a single other poster has done it. Why you on the other hand felt the need to post this crap is a different question

Read the post again.

TrustInJanuzaj · Jan 9, 2021

Jonno said:
Disagree. Pass of the game was a delicate flick to put Mata one on one with the keeper. Inside the box

That was class, he can do that everywhere on the pitch though. Don’t think it can be debated his best performances in a Utd shirt have come from a deeper role though.

Martial'sEmergingSmile · Jan 9, 2021

Adam-Utd said:
henderson is the 1 who needs to be blamed if anything. He’s come flying out of nowhere to try and punch a risky ball that didn’t even need it, and now he’s injured a player.

Yup. It was an absolute batshit attempt from Henderson that he got nowhere near, lead with a knee (into his centre-backs head), and wasn't even necessary.

lsd said:
He is totally soft and a waste there is no excusing the amount of games he misses anc the games he starts yet goes of injured.

Imagine thinking it's soft to get kneed in the face and have to go off.

bsCallout · Jan 9, 2021

roseguy64 said:
This is absolutely not true.

It absolutely is. He never looks up. He can never pick out a pass and even his shot was just a case of hitting it in the right direction.

I never criticise our players usually but he is so far away from the required level.

kouroux · Jan 9, 2021

lsd said:
He is totally soft and a waste there is no excusing the amount of games he misses anc the games he starts yet goes of injured.

Just happens time and time again there is no point in having him

You could use your point at any other time but why tonight and why for this ffs ? He rarely goes off the pitch for injury anyway. This was a freak occurence. He got kneed in the head and you say he's soft :lol:

GMoore23 · Jan 9, 2021

charlenefan said:
Only thing I really want from this game is a goal for Greenwood, but he hasn't looked like getting one so far

He's got 2nd season syndrome. Shouldn't be anywhere near the first 11 while in this form.

Bastian · Jan 9, 2021

One Night Only said:
I'd take a yellow tonight tbh, think lindelof and tuanzebe can keep burnely at bay anyway. The worry is him getting a card against Burnley.

However, not having him for the Liverpool game night not be the worst thing, Liverpool have so much pace upfront they will catch him out a shit ton imo.

I'm under no illusions about his weaknesses, but I still think he's the best we've got. Tuanzebe will hopefully keep injury free and can eventually become his partner this season. I'm not sure we can handle two tall strikers with balls into the box without Maguire. Also, no need to get a yellow tonight (I hope).

Withnail · Jan 9, 2021

TrustInJanuzaj said:
Bailly just can’t catch a break though can he? So unlucky but it just seems to happen to him more than anyone else. Played well up till then too. Doubt it will keep him out long though.

If it's a concussion it's at least 6 days out.

Denis' cuff · Jan 9, 2021

Think Bailly took a knee to the head. Apparently.

Random Task · Jan 9, 2021

Andersonson said:
Just look at his injury record. This wasnt his «fault» but he cant be relied upon. Never has, never will be. Love or hate the man, nobody can deny that injury record

Right?

I mean, whatever happened to footballers taking their flying Hadouken kicks to the head like the grown-ass men they are?

Man up Eric!

Offside · Jan 9, 2021

Get a 2nd please. Our passing is poor and we’re open to their attacks. Can’t be arsed with any drama.

kouroux · Jan 9, 2021

Random Task said:
Right?

I mean, whatever happened to footballers taking their flying Hadouken kicks to the head like the grown-ass men they are?

Man up Eric!

I'd love to see those training sessions

lex talionis · Jan 9, 2021

Toad said:
Has anyone ever been sent off for dangerous play against their own team mate?

Actually about 7-8 years ago two players on the same team had a right go at each other and one of them got sent off. Might have been Newcastle, but I’m not sure. Never seen anything like it before or since.

GMoore23 · Jan 9, 2021

Next time Bailly returns to the first team, I want to see him wearing Petr Cechs helmet, Diego Costa's face mask and Stone Cold Steve Austin's knee brace.
Only then will I feel truly comfortable with him out there.

Smores · Jan 9, 2021

RUCK4444 said:
This has been my concern with him shunted on the wing for Martial.

I got pelted for it. It’s not good for his progression and a player of his calibre needs to be fine tuning his trade in his correct position.

Yeah agreed. Putting a striker outwide does have its place to teach them certain skills but you can only learn the craft of being a striker whilst playing as a striker.

Beyond game time i think there's little reason to play him there now.

Judas · Jan 9, 2021

Some of McTominay's passing can be comically bad at times :lol:

pratyush_utd · Jan 9, 2021

Scott passing has been awful :lol:

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