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Robbery haha. So many drama queens here. At most there’s 5-10 terrible ref decisions a year. That doesn’t mean you ruin the game by bringing in a system not suitable for football. Even goals for United today I checked myself celebration wise in case some small thing happened in the build up.I (and 60% according to the poll) don't find robbery entertaining.
You don't watch a lot of football, do youRobbery haha. So many drama queens here. At most there’s 5-10 terrible ref decisions a year. That doesn’t mean you ruin the game by bringing in a system not suitable for football. Even goals for United today I checked myself celebration wise in case some small thing happened in the build up.
It causes as many (if not more) problems than it solves.
5-10 terrible decisions a year?????Robbery haha. So many drama queens here. At most there’s 5-10 terrible ref decisions a year. That doesn’t mean you ruin the game by bringing in a system not suitable for football. Even goals for United today I checked myself celebration wise in case some small thing happened in the build up.
It causes as many (if not more) problems than it solves.
Exactly! It's like goals weren't rule out before VAR existed.imagine not celebrating goals anymore because they might get ruled out a few seconds later than they did before there was VAR. It's honestly the stupidest argument I've ever heard.
Yellow card Rice? Nothing was clear about the decision, in fact many viewers were shown the goalie had 'left his line' by an inch, with the implication VAR had penalised this misdemeanor. Without a clear visual explanation many viewers without commentary (in noisy pubs, etc) are understandably left unconvinced. The point stands: VAR is currently failing to enhance the drama of clearly correcting poor play/calls. Early days still, and much to improve upon.Rice cleared the ball from the rebound. He denied another goal scoring opportunity.
Yes, I think so. And back in olden times, they'd just whack the flag up most times, and usually catch someone or other. It was the main way of defending. And yet again, teams wouldn't get an awful lot go their way at Anfield or Old Trafford. ''Push out lads, he'll put his flag up.''It is remarkable that there are people against it in an extremely low scoring sport where one of the key rules (offside) is applied almost at random in a lot of situations due to the pace of play.
For a long time I wonderes how those poor assistant refs made decisions on close offside calls. Took me a while to realize that they guesstimate, which is unacceptable given the stakes.
No idea what you're going on about but Rice was penalised for encroachment not dagsoYellow card Rice? Nothing was clear about the decision, in fact many viewers were shown the goalie had 'left his line' by an inch, with the implication VAR had penalised this misdemeanor. Without a clear visual explanation many viewers without commentary (in noisy pubs, etc) are understandably left unconvinced. The point stands: VAR is currently failing to enhance the drama of clearly correcting poor play/calls. Early days still, and much to improve upon.
I do not bet, and dislike the way football and betting have become synonymous like horse racing. Are football fans ever neutral? My team won 4-0 yesterday and should be joint top, so VAR matters across the league. VAR must bring immediate clarity to the match in progress; your comment, mate, about Rice stopping a 'clear goal-scoring opportunity' is something I have not seen. Maybe Rice a straight red?
Oh yea that was/is his nameWho let Oscie make a new account?
Should rename this thread to, do you like change? Some people don't. They will moan. They did when the CD replaced the Casette and when the iPod replaced the discman.
You're old, get of the train.
What do you think of the 2 guys system if they stick to cutting out the clear & obvious whopper mistakes?During West Ham - Man City game VAR made 3 incorrect decisions (City's 2nd goal should have counted while 3rd and 5th shouldn't have) but a lot of people defended those decisions saying "well it's a technology, if VAR decided so, then it must be 100% correct". But the reality is that, right now there is no technology behind VAR whatsoever, its just two guys behind the monitors who are watching replays and making subjective decisions and a lot of those decisions are incorrect. I want VAR to be 100% automated technology like Goal Line Technology, which makes 100% correct decisions all the time. Overall I am not against VAR even with the way it is now with the exception of offside decisions. In the video posted in the previous page, Andy Gray makes great points why the VAR as it is shouldn't be used to determinate whether the play was offside or not.
As I said I am not against VAR even in its current state because its better than nothing but its still far from perfect because there is no technology behind it, its completely based on subjective decisions of a few people.What do you think of the 2 guys system if they stick to cutting out the clear & obvious whopper mistakes?
It is perfectly clear. Aguero missed the penalty. VAR judged re-take in a confusing manner, especially to those who without commentary/sound. This unexplained decision changed the final score, from 4-0 to 5-0. What don't you understand, City lad?No idea what you're going on about but Rice was penalised for encroachment not dagso
Ah I see, OK.As I said I am not against VAR even in its current state because its better than nothing but its still far from perfect because there is no technology behind it, its completely based on subjective decisions of a few people.
I hope a real technology will be introduced in the future that would be 100% automated. That's what makes "Goal Line Technology" so great, it makes 100% correct decisions all the time and people can't argue about those decisions because they are absolutely objective unlike the decisions made by VAR.
I really pity you. How you can't celebrate a goal like that is completely beyond me.I was in the south stand yesterday - between the players' families and the directors boxes - and I didn't celebrate Rashford's brilliant second goal because I was convinced when Pogba played that clip over the top that Rashy was half-a-yard offside.
This is why I HATE VAR.
You can't live in the moment. You have to just put your fingernail in your mouth after a close-run goal like that is scored and then just wait... and wait..and wait while the ref sticks his finger in his ear, has a conversation with some guy in a truck and then finally points his hand to the half-way line to signal goal is allowed. Then, instead of celebrating like a hyper monkey, jumping up and down and hugging the bloke next to you, you just clench your fist and sit down.
VAR ruins fan enjoyment of the game.. we can't even celebrate goals because we know there is a guy in a truck somewhere looking back it it on replays before the referee can allow the goal. feck that.
I really pity you. How you can't celebrate a goal like that is completely beyond me.
Except we know that's no the case from sports like rugby, where they celebrate a try and then celebrate a second time if the try is checked and allowed to stand. That's how people react in that situation. People aren't going to stop celebrating goals like dead eyed computers unless they're very odd people.Wow - you haven't understood a word I'm saying.
I am saying this is what the future of football will be like.
Once we get used to VAR, close-run offside calls like this one that lead to goals won't be celebrated in real time... we'll all turn to the ref, watch him poke his finger in his ear and wait... and wait until he signals that the goal is allowed.
Because of VAR, we won't live in the moment of the football match... we will wait with baited breath until the goal is allowed.
Goals like this one aren't given straight away like they used to be... there is a delay of about 30-seconds, by which time the euphoria of the goal being scored has been diluted.
now that's a tad over dramatic, dont you think?Wow - you haven't understood a word I'm saying.
I am saying this is what the future of football will be like.
Once we get used to VAR, close-run offside calls like this one that lead to goals won't be celebrated in real time... we'll all turn to the ref, watch him poke his finger in his ear and wait... and wait until he signals that the goal is allowed.
Because of VAR, we won't live in the moment of the football match... we will wait with baited breath until the goal is allowed.
Goals like this one aren't given straight away like they used to be... there is a delay of about 30-seconds, by which time the euphoria of the goal being scored has been diluted.
VAR ruins the spectator's live enjoyment of the game.
You're wrong. Auomatic review is already implemented in other sports and no one doesn't celebrate because "it might get disallowed".Wow - you haven't understood a word I'm saying.
I am saying this is what the future of football will be like.
Once we get used to VAR, close-run offside calls like this one that lead to goals won't be celebrated in real time... we'll all turn to the ref, watch him poke his finger in his ear and wait... and wait until he signals that the goal is allowed.
Because of VAR, we won't live in the moment of the football match... we will wait with baited breath until the goal is allowed.
Goals like this one aren't given straight away like they used to be... there is a delay of about 30-seconds, by which time the euphoria of the goal being scored has been diluted.
VAR ruins the spectator's live enjoyment of the game.
Your right we definitely didn't celebrate rashford's goal.................My original concerns from when we first heard about it are coming true. Still heavily reliant on the opinion of somebody, which are still questionable. Breaks up play, ref leaning on the system etc. It's also ruining the goal celebrations as nobody is 100% sure anymore.
He can't be wrong though, can he, if that is the way it is for him?You're wrong.
He can't be wrong about his feelings regarding VAR, no. But this:He can't be wrong though, can he, if that is the way it is for him?
Is wrong.Once we get used to VAR, close-run offside calls like this one that lead to goals won't be celebrated in real time...
You're wrong. Auomatic review is already implemented in other sports and no one doesn't celebrate because "it might get disallowed".
You'd be better off cancelling your season ticket ASAP if the above is really what you think of VAR.
Obviously you still go mental but then you start to think it might be offside etc. There have been some very questionable decisions made by VAR already, it will definitely be a big discussion point throughout the season.Your right we definitely didn't celebrate rashford's goal.................