United should sell Pogba to a chinese club, then lets see what his agent would have to say, but let's be honest Pogba & his agent are working in unison trying to push for a move. In all honesty he should of never been brought back to the club, I am sure I read a while back that Ole was more then happy so let Pogba go, but Ed & his goons did not want that to happen the same situation occured with Martial basically manager happy to sell, Ed & Goons not happy to sell.
Is Pogba as good as gone?
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I would just sell him. I don't really see the point in losing out on the money.I was one of his biggest critics but now when he is obviously acting like a cnut I couldn't care less.Now when I think about it I woudn't even sell him if we don't get big money, I would let him root in the reserves and he can pretend he is injured for another year.
I don't get why people still like him though, surely people who still like and respect him put Pogba the player ahead of the club?
It's not like he'll go elsewhere and suddenly grow up. We'd just be getting £80m to shift a problem on to someone else.
I genuinely can't wait for him to go at this point. There's always been a circus around him since he's come to the club. Difference being, a lot of the time he was actually on the field and putting in some really good performances (some poor one's, too) so you sort of put up with it. But now your getting nothing but grief out of it. You got a combination of your most talented and most expensive player basically missing for most of the season, and his agent (and brother) coming out and talking shit every couple of weeks. We're literally getting nothing positive out of this relationship at this point.
It's really not worth it. He doesn't want to be here, and i'm not sure he ever truly wanted to be here. It was the money that convinced him to come, because i certainly don't think he has the fight in him to help us get to where we need to be. Part ways in the summer, get as much as possible for him, and stay away from that bellend of an agent. He's absolute poison.
It's really not worth it. He doesn't want to be here, and i'm not sure he ever truly wanted to be here. It was the money that convinced him to come, because i certainly don't think he has the fight in him to help us get to where we need to be. Part ways in the summer, get as much as possible for him, and stay away from that bellend of an agent. He's absolute poison.
There is likely a lot of truth in this. Raiola will be talking to the few potential buyers and may well know that those clubs aren't going to go anywhere near our valuation of him, so making this situation untenable for the club is the best chance they have of lowering that value.
I've said on another thread, if Pogba has any doubts about whether Raiola has his best interests at heart, lets see if he waives his own fee to help grease the wheels for a transfer.
Hopefully he gets fit soon so he can help us get top 4 and win a cup or 2.
Then feck him off to the highest bidder.
Then feck him off to the highest bidder.
It certainly looks that way now; good riddance!
Long past time to get rid and to banish that prick Raiola from the club forever.
Somebody on here posted earlier that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and I thought it summed the situation up perfectly.
Somebody on here posted earlier that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and I thought it summed the situation up perfectly.
I don't know, obviously if it would mean using that money to buy other players I would sell him immediately but knowing our signings and "scouts" I don't think we will do much better tbf. We would probably sign another di Maria, Pogba type.
No that fat bastard will probably demand a fee from us for facilitating his exit.
Frankly, its as obvious as sin what he is doing here. Make it as unpleasant as he can to reduce the fee, so that Madrid or Juve take him on. We should really retaliate at this point and activate the year extension to his contract, pointing out that he still has two years to run and that any sale would be on our terms.
I wouldn't bother playing him for the rest of the season. Regardless of who is doing the talking, this is more than the money now.
Raiola wants to talk ownership, but still take 20% cuts of transfers. Parasite.
Raiola wants to talk ownership, but still take 20% cuts of transfers. Parasite.
This was the final straw for me. Absolutely sick of his antics and his departure will only be good for the club as a whole (if we invest the money wisely!).
The ongoing circus around Pogba is fecking tiring. Of course a lot of it isn't his fault (the whole tirade about his blue hair before the City game for example) but the constant rumours of his departure with nothing from Paul to dispel any of them is only disrupting the club. Not to mention his irrelevant brothers piping up about how Pogba wants to leave all the time. I do think Pogba cares somewhat about the club, but he clearly couldn't give a shit about where we're headed now and he just wants to play at the top again.
So just give him what he wants and sell him off and be done with this bollocks. At his best Pogba is sublime, but when his best is once every 5 games and the other 4 games range from mediocre to absolute shit then we don't need him. Pogba has been an unquestionable flop.
Raiola's a twat and all, but he's only doing whatever he can do fulfill Pogba's wishes so they both deserve stick. Hope we don't ever have to deal with that cretin again.
The ongoing circus around Pogba is fecking tiring. Of course a lot of it isn't his fault (the whole tirade about his blue hair before the City game for example) but the constant rumours of his departure with nothing from Paul to dispel any of them is only disrupting the club. Not to mention his irrelevant brothers piping up about how Pogba wants to leave all the time. I do think Pogba cares somewhat about the club, but he clearly couldn't give a shit about where we're headed now and he just wants to play at the top again.
So just give him what he wants and sell him off and be done with this bollocks. At his best Pogba is sublime, but when his best is once every 5 games and the other 4 games range from mediocre to absolute shit then we don't need him. Pogba has been an unquestionable flop.
Raiola's a twat and all, but he's only doing whatever he can do fulfill Pogba's wishes so they both deserve stick. Hope we don't ever have to deal with that cretin again.
Ask his loudmouth agent to bring an offer of 120m cash + add on for his excellency la Pogba. Otherwise sod off.
I hope so, it's not like he has set the world alight for us and he has been missing the whole season basically. May as well cut our losses with him and get £100 odd million back in the bank.
Plus we can get rid of that virus Raiola.
Plus we can get rid of that virus Raiola.
I've got a question....
I know Pogba's contract finishes at the end of the 20/21 season. I've read there's an option to extend by 1 year. Is this an option that the player or club can trigger?
I wanted to know because if it's the clubs option to extend, that should ensure we get more for him this summer. If it's the players choice, then that means we only have 1 year left on one of our most valuable assets.
I know Pogba's contract finishes at the end of the 20/21 season. I've read there's an option to extend by 1 year. Is this an option that the player or club can trigger?
I wanted to know because if it's the clubs option to extend, that should ensure we get more for him this summer. If it's the players choice, then that means we only have 1 year left on one of our most valuable assets.
Old Trafford already booed him long before he wanted to leave. It's not like there will be something new..
Despite my opinion about the guy I can really understand a player that wants a move from a club that he doesn't feel is ambitious enough for him giving that he really is entering his best footballing years. Pogba is no exception. But the way he has conducted himself during the last year or so really puts into perspective what kind of a player and person he is. Ronaldo for all his personal stuff has always been a model professional and even in his last season for us (08/09)he banged +25 goals in all competitions and was a vital part in our title winning season that ended with a CL final loss. The same can be said for Ibra who changed dozen clubs and never failed to deliver. Paul is talking the talk but he is not walking the walk if my analogy makes any sense.
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The club has the option to extend, so we are secure in that aspect.
Right on we should take up our option and threaten to shunt him out to the reserves. The fat cnut's game is obvious, they want to push down his value by destroying our leverage through these antics which make his position untenable and give him another excuse of fans turning on him hence him wanting out. He should never play for the club nor join up with the first team again and any club that wants him has to pay us what we want for him. Obviously Juve have promised Raoila a big cut of what was supposed to come our way.
There will be more people doing it this time round. There's been a pretty sharp change in attitude on here at least.
I think we're both saying the same thing here.
The case of Pogba illustrates a lot. Spending a large amount of money, never have a plan what to do with him properly (for example in which surrounding he plays at his best, which player besides him fits the most), and finaly have drama to get rid of him and never get the amount of money back. Every footballexpert in the buisness is shaking their heads.
I feel like the improvement of Fred and the signing of Fernandes mean we're in a position to sell him now and we can control the nature of that - he has 2 years left on his contract (if we apply the extension) and can ask £100m for him. I don't see anyone signing him for that at the moment though.
I think you're right. But I feel we should be getting at least what Barca paid for Coutinho. Pogba is the better player, has the most resale value and selling him for 100m is too cheap.
Having said this, I am not sure anyone is going to pay it, as Raiola has created this whole atmosphere surrounding the player and the club, other clubs will know we want to get rid of him and so we will have to sell him for less than he's worth. It's a joke.
I agree. Raiola is obviously a clever guy, as he's made millions but I do question how wise he was with his latest tweets and his talksport appearance.
Everyone thinks he is a twat of the highest order. His client's stock has fallen so his transfer fee will be lower and hence his cut.
And who will want to do business with him now?
We missed out on Haaland and in a way that was a blessing as we would have to deal with Raiola again.
Some have commented on us missing out on good players like Haaland but I feel it says a lot about a player's judgment and character if he has chosen this guy as his agent. Do we need players like that at our club? Will they just agitate for a move further down the line?
Lingard going with Raiola says it all surely.
That's not an irrational dislike, its completely understandable.
I'm in the same boat. Was massively excited when he joined and he's had the occasional incredible game (City away when we won 3-2 springs to mind) but he's had plenty of average ones too and several that were utterly disgraceful.
He may well be popular in the changing room, but his complete disrespect for the club and for the fans that pay his wages is bang out of order.
F**k off Paul, you won't be missed and you can take that fat dollop of tuberculotic sputum Raiola with you.
Roy Keane got it spot on last night after the game when he spoke about never signing a Raiola player again. Just avoid at all costs, I don't care if its a Messi/Ronaldo/Mbappe hybrid, if they have fat boy as an agent please never sign them. Always more trouble than its worth.
Raiola making this statement just before kickoff yesterday is done with Pogba and speaks volume about the pair of them. Pogba has never been and will never be a world class player and a leader he´s quite clearly not. He´s only interested in one thing and that´s himself. This guy is being paid millions and what are we getting in return? As for his injuries it staggers me that globetrotting around the world and posing on treadmills or whatever in Dubai, attending fashion shows, playing basketball and dancing while supposed to be injured is considered ok. Can you see prober elite sportsmen like Ronaldo,Jordan,Brady and others not giving their all every single day to get back on the field? Of course they would but this guy is on a private world tour while his bloody agent is trying to paint him as a slave. Go figure the stupidity of that bunch and the nerve to suggest that Pogba is a slave of Man Utd. Use the extension option on his contract, tell him he can leave IF he asks for a transfer so the club will not have to pay him anything when he leaves. If not make an example of him and let him globetrott some more. And never in a million years do business with that "agent" Raiola again. As for Lingard I hope Raiola finds him a new club a.s.a.p as I belive Pogba and Lingard are two players that do not have a good effect on the young players at United. Perhaps the Jlingz brand can find a market in China both for the "footballer" and the clothing brand?
Yeah and don't forget Pogba's brother sticking his two pennies in later on Spanish TV:
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Anyone who does not believe Pogba is engineering this circus, so that United will eventually conclude that he's more trouble keeping than he's worth, would've been taken in by the Emperor's new clothes.
Nobody can credibly claim Pogba is anything other than a world class midfielder. However, he does not want to play for us so we will never see his best.
Look at the Scousers? When Coutinho wanted to go they sold him and used the money to bring in players they needed like Alisson and Van Dijk. Look at us: On our knees, bowing at Pogba's feet, begging him to play half-heartedly for us. Just shows why Liverpool have overtaken us. The people running this club do not have a scooby.
yet there are still people on here who justify his behaviour - and even more incredibly, his agents. You really wonder at times.
100% agree on this.
We're getting result with him, I love him as a player but it's time he goes.
Every employment contract I've ever seen has clauses about bringing the employer into disrepute. If United have something like this, terminate Pogba's contract and sue him for the transfer fee, wages and bonuses.
Raiola is Pogba's employee, so he is responsible for these statements. If Pogba has not given Raiola permission to speak like this and he has such a clause in his contract with Raiola, he should sue Raiola for that amount.
Hit them in the only place they have any feeling, their wallets.
If not, let him train with the reserves for two years, no games. See how valuable his career is after that.
Make a statement that we are accept players need agents, but any agents words against the club is the players responsibility.
And if that scares off the Champagne Charlies who want to play the same game in the future, fine, you ain't worth it anyway.
Raiola is Pogba's employee, so he is responsible for these statements. If Pogba has not given Raiola permission to speak like this and he has such a clause in his contract with Raiola, he should sue Raiola for that amount.
Hit them in the only place they have any feeling, their wallets.
If not, let him train with the reserves for two years, no games. See how valuable his career is after that.
Make a statement that we are accept players need agents, but any agents words against the club is the players responsibility.
And if that scares off the Champagne Charlies who want to play the same game in the future, fine, you ain't worth it anyway.
It is a shame because I want him to be playing at his best for United, and in a team alongside Bruno, but the damage is done now and is probably irreparable unless there comes a time that he speaks out directly and bins his agent, and that is just not going to happen.
If he does want to go then I assume the club know that by now and are working on his exit. We need to squeeze what we can out his potential buyers either pure cash or players plus cash. the only question is who other than Juve or PSG would come in for him? I don't see where he fits in at Madrid or Barca, and PSG might be watching the FFP after what has happened to City.
It's a shame as he could have come back and pulled us up the league on his own. Instead he has tarnished his reputation at the club that made him and for the best part of 2 years wasted his undeniable talent.
If he does want to go then I assume the club know that by now and are working on his exit. We need to squeeze what we can out his potential buyers either pure cash or players plus cash. the only question is who other than Juve or PSG would come in for him? I don't see where he fits in at Madrid or Barca, and PSG might be watching the FFP after what has happened to City.
It's a shame as he could have come back and pulled us up the league on his own. Instead he has tarnished his reputation at the club that made him and for the best part of 2 years wasted his undeniable talent.
Can't wait to see the back of pogba. I fully get ole when he talks about cultural reset. That's something that has to happen and results can only come after that.
All these words coming out of his agents mouth have pogba tacit approval. Anyone believing otherwise is just being a bit naive.
All these words coming out of his agents mouth have pogba tacit approval. Anyone believing otherwise is just being a bit naive.
with Bruno, Fred, McT and potentially Grealish, Maddison, Jadon...we hold all the cards with Paul&Mino...Riola must know it hence all those statements..
No need to lower the price! worst case, we loan him to RM with a mandatory buy-option of ~150M like PSG did with Mbappe.
No need to lower the price! worst case, we loan him to RM with a mandatory buy-option of ~150M like PSG did with Mbappe.
Serie A is his level. If he goes to La Liga, he'll be found out.
Similar to the PL, it's a lot harder to hide in Spain. I just don't see him being able to sustain form for anywhere near 38 matches against top level opponents.
Similar to the PL, it's a lot harder to hide in Spain. I just don't see him being able to sustain form for anywhere near 38 matches against top level opponents.
Why pay him salary for free? Play him and we need his service for CL place anyway. I am of opinion that off field matters should not affect on field decision.
I'm not trying to re-write history here, but when was the last time he put in a 'world-class' performance? Perhaps I have a short memory, but occasional great passes aside, I can't remember when he has performed to anything like the level we expect of him in any game.
I've been situated right up in Pogba's anus but things seem to have gone too far now.
These public statements will only cause him to lose value, I don't see why Raiola is doing this.
Still think he played well for us, in a team desperately low on creativity and attacking patterns he still managed to make something happen every game. But his stint has come to an end, hopefully we can somehow turn a profit on his sale.
These public statements will only cause him to lose value, I don't see why Raiola is doing this.
Still think he played well for us, in a team desperately low on creativity and attacking patterns he still managed to make something happen every game. But his stint has come to an end, hopefully we can somehow turn a profit on his sale.
This is Manchester United. No player, absolutely no player or his two bit agent can slander this great club and its manager in public. What do they think we are a joke? This one of the biggest club in the world is a joke to them?
I really have no time for pogba and his agent, has raiola forgotten how well he did with the pogba deal and has pogba forgotten that his wages is funded by the fans, both should be showing the club and its fans far more respect.
I have to start doubting if pogba really has really been injured all this time and that there is more to between Ole, pogba and rioala.
The only way I see pogba staying at the club is if we change our manager at the end of the season and pogba really fancies working with the new one but tbh he sod off at this point, we dont need some wishy washy player that only puts effort in when everything suits him.
I'm wondering where he will go though if reports are true that Madrid are circling sterling now, I doubt they can afford both, though I'm sure they will try by low balling us again with an offer for him. If they had the choice between sterling and pogba then surely sterling would be the better option.
I have to start doubting if pogba really has really been injured all this time and that there is more to between Ole, pogba and rioala.
The only way I see pogba staying at the club is if we change our manager at the end of the season and pogba really fancies working with the new one but tbh he sod off at this point, we dont need some wishy washy player that only puts effort in when everything suits him.
I'm wondering where he will go though if reports are true that Madrid are circling sterling now, I doubt they can afford both, though I'm sure they will try by low balling us again with an offer for him. If they had the choice between sterling and pogba then surely sterling would be the better option.
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