This place is going to be a nightmare in the CL next season

TheReligion · Aug 11, 2020

From reading about the performance last night to the fact we now face Sevilla on Sunday I'm truly baffled by what enjoyment some get from watching United and if it's that much hard work for you why bother. The usual posters slagging the club, moaning, explaining how poor we are and how Sevilla will do us (and in the final Milan will) blah blah.

Pointless us turning up for the CL next season really. Can we ask the PL to give it to someone else to save our embarrassment or is it too late?

Support the club ffs!

Bastian · Aug 12, 2020

Sometimes it's over the top, but don't confuse support with lack of critical opinion. We were shite in the first half against Copenhagen, and improved slightly. After years of absolute tumescent football we've had two short phases of form, both under Ole, and the latter more convincing than the first. But tiredness crept in and we're slowly again looking like a team that waits for an individual to turn up and do the business for us because the cohesion is not there, the tempo, the intensity. All of which is quite fair to mention, and worry about too given the lack of quality in depth and the arduous campaign finishing moments before another one begins, one where expectations start to put more pressure on our inexperienced manager and young team.

mariachi-19 · Aug 12, 2020

TheReligion said:
From reading about the performance last night to the fact we now face Sevilla on Sunday I'm truly baffled by what enjoyment some get from watching United and if it's that much hard work for you why bother. The usual posters slagging the club, moaning, explaining how poor we are and how Sevilla will do us (and in the final Milan will) blah blah.

Pointless us turning up for the CL next season really. Can we ask the PL to give it to someone else to save our embarrassment or is it too late?

Support the club ffs!

50% thrive off of the negativity because it gives them something to piss and moan about. United seems to have become an outlet for these people to let their frustrations out from other parts of their lives that they wont/cant deal with.

Leethal · Aug 12, 2020

mariachi-19 said:
50% thrive off of the negativity because it gives them something to piss and moan about. United seems to have become an outlet for these people to let their frustrations out from other parts of their lives that they wont/cant deal with.

Agree with you. I enjoyed the match against Copenhagen. I thought it was an enjoyable game to watch; yet people here were livid we didn't beat them 5-0 - despite the fact we peppered their goal constantly, and if not for their keeper, it would have been a cricket score.

I truly don't get it. A good portion of the people here seem to get no enjoyment out of the game, and it seems the only enjoyment they get is from of being negative about anything and everything on a football forum.

It's bizarre.

SAFMUTD · Aug 12, 2020

Im all about being in the UCL for the money, but we dont have a chance there. Its quite sad to know since the start that we're not candidates.

CG1010 · Aug 12, 2020

This place alternatives into extremes depending on the last game's performance. If we beat Sevilla comfortably, then we will suddenly become 'dark horses' for the CL around here. I remember when Sanchez was signed there were again discussions on whether we could be 'favourites' for winning it.

Personally, I would just concentrate trying to get into CL in consecutive seasons in a row (which we haven't done since SAF leaving?). Wouldn't worry about being competitive in CL, we have done okay in the competition in the post-SAF years.

Eddy_JukeZ · Aug 12, 2020

This forum would be boring if we were all giddy 100% of the time.

People will have different opinions to yours. Doesn't make them less of a supporter.

meamth · Aug 12, 2020

Lindelof is good at nothing.
Daniel James is finished.
Maguire dwells on the ball far too long, clueless.
Brandon Williams is average.
De Gea is now trash.
We would be in better position if we have a better coach.
AWB useless in attack.
tumescent football.
Ole doesn't know when to rest players.
Ole overuse his first 11.

Anything else I missed?

bri2013 · Aug 12, 2020

SAFMUTD said:
Im all about being in the UCL for the money, but we dont have a chance there. Its quite sad to know since the start that we're not candidates.

Maybe you are one of the posters @TheReligion was talking about? Purely based on your post.

JakeC · Aug 12, 2020

meamth said:
Lindelof is good at nothing.

Daniel James is finished.

Maguire dwells on the ball far too long, clueless.

Brandon Williams is average.

De Gea is now trash.

We would be in better position if we have a better coach.

AWB useless in attack.

tumescent football.

Ole doesn't know when to rest players.

Ole overuse his first 11.

Anything else I missed?

Genuinely bewildering. Literally everything here is either wrong, out of context, or both.

JakeC · Aug 12, 2020

meamth said:
Lindelof is good at nothing.

Daniel James is finished.

Maguire dwells on the ball far too long, clueless.

Brandon Williams is average.

De Gea is now trash.

We would be in better position if we have a better coach.

AWB useless in attack.

tumescent football.

Ole doesn't know when to rest players.

Ole overuse his first 11.

Anything else I missed?

1 - Just before lockdown, Lindelofs % of duels won was higher than any other defender in the league
2 - Daniel James is 22
3 - Brandon Williams is our second choice left back, is 19, and has impressed our coaches to earn 2 contracts in 12 months.
4 - His xG shows he hasn't been elite, but he's by no means trash
5 - If my nanny had balls she'd be my grand dad
6 - We're trying to sign a right sided forward
7 - No
8 - Our squad is still being rebuilt

These are all lazy rebuttals, because honestly that's all they deserve.
9 - See above.

DarkLord · Aug 12, 2020

The paranoia is justified. If we can't even beat the worst team left in the competition in 90 minutes, it's going to be a long ride in the Champions League. I actually fear for us against Sevilla.

Womp · Aug 12, 2020

We were shit against a shit team, people were rightfully disappointed by the performance, I don't see what the problem is. You can support the team whilst still being critical. Otherwise we may as well just go back to hoping everything turns out rosy eventually.

Devil_3565 · Aug 12, 2020

I deeply contemplated leaving the caf for good because of how negative the place had become but then I discovered the true power of the ignore feature and life has been much better since.

RashysTekkers · Aug 12, 2020

Eddy_JukeZ said:
This forum would be boring if we were all giddy 100% of the time.

People will have different opinions to yours. Doesn't make them less of a supporter.

It is totally fine when there are different opinions but there are some here who cant stop whining and moaning even before a game was played. And then you have those people who post paragraphs upon paragraphs of crap slagging off everyone in the team just because we couldn't beat a team by 10-0. And then we have the "green is greener everywhere other than here" posters who rate every tom, dick and harry above our own players, which is pathetic. Don't forget some of the Poch In, Ole Out guys here posting their bullshit agenda here day in day out, and calling those who disagree with them "deluded Ole fanboys".

SAFMUTD · Aug 12, 2020

bri2013 said:
Maybe you are one of the posters @TheReligion was talking about? Purely based on your post.

I may be yeah, I have find it particularly hard enjoying football while we fail so much, Im spoiled I started watching United in the early 00s when we were so dominant.

tenpoless · Aug 12, 2020

It's true, there are so many complains about almost everything we do bad. In Sancho thread people are already blaming Woodward and going as far as predicting his failure as if it was destined to happen, when we know feck all about the actual negotiation. In matchday threads, one mistake from one player means he's finished. It's ridiculous.

The only time I was complaining was when we failed to beat shite teams that could help us moving up the table in the PL... outside of that nope, very hard to be always complaining as it stresses you out.

bri2013 · Aug 12, 2020

SAFMUTD said:
I may be yeah, I have find it particularly hard enjoying football while we fail so much, Im spoiled I started watching United in the early 00s when we were so dominant.

I started supporting United in the 70's, when we were basically a cup side, and Liverpool were the team to beat. It never stopped me having the thrill of a win or going to a match.

Maybe you should accept that we are currently not the greatest team in the Premier League (or beyond) and just enjoy the good days?

SAFMUTD · Aug 12, 2020

bri2013 said:
I started supporting United in the 70's, when we were basically a cup side, and Liverpool were the team to beat. It never stopped me having the thrill of a win or going to a match.

Maybe you should accept that we are currently not the greatest team in the Premier League (or beyond) and just enjoy the good days?

Yes thats what I try, hopefully we'll turn this around in a couple of years and all the wait will be paid off.

Drawfull · Aug 12, 2020

JakeC said:
1 - Just before lockdown, Lindelofs % of duels won was higher than any other defender in the league
2 - Daniel James is 22
3 - Brandon Williams is our second choice left back, is 19, and has impressed our coaches to earn 2 contracts in 12 months.
4 - His xG shows he hasn't been elite, but he's by no means trash
5 - If my nanny had balls she'd be my grand dad
6 - We're trying to sign a right sided forward
7 - No
8 - Our squad is still being rebuilt

These are all lazy rebuttals, because honestly that's all they deserve.
9 - See above.

Pretty sure he was he was being sarcastic...

Beans · Aug 12, 2020

Drawfull said:
Pretty sure he was he was being sarcastic...

That was my impression too.

United58 · Aug 12, 2020

Imagine this place on October 5 when we don't get Sancho :lol:

Aerouant · Aug 12, 2020

I can't help wondering if most of the people who post negative stuff here are really fans of other clubs. If not they are truly miserable people and I feel sorry for them.

M16Red · Aug 12, 2020

Eddy_JukeZ said:
This forum would be boring if we were all giddy 100% of the time.

People will have different opinions to yours. Doesn't make them less of a supporter.

I agree, but it does make me wonder why support Manchester United football club if they seem to feel so anti this and that.

Go support someone else or try a different sport to support like curling or something.

Falcow · Aug 12, 2020

mariachi-19 said:
50% thrive off of the negativity because it gives them something to piss and moan about. United seems to have become an outlet for these people to let their frustrations out from other parts of their lives that they wont/cant deal with.

Hello united my old friend,
I've come to post about you again
Because our team was slowly pressing
Let the opposition score while our defence was sleeping......

And so on

Redfrog · Aug 12, 2020

TheReligion said:
From reading about the performance last night to the fact we now face Sevilla on Sunday I'm truly baffled by what enjoyment some get from watching United and if it's that much hard work for you why bother. The usual posters slagging the club, moaning, explaining how poor we are and how Sevilla will do us (and in the final Milan will) blah blah.

Pointless us turning up for the CL next season really. Can we ask the PL to give it to someone else to save our embarrassment or is it too late?

Support the club ffs!

Yeah, it was really annoying to read a lot of comments here on manday and yesterday as we were so bad and Sevilla were some world beaters.

It was frustrating not to score earlier but the keeper had a stormer. All pundits in France said the same.

And by the way Sevilla didn't have a good match yesterday I think. It was dull.

It looks like people see it was Copenhagen we played against and they could not imagine they can play football. It was a good match.

I am watching United to enjoy and support the team. And when we have a bad game I can see it. But don't think it was the case on monday, especially the second half.

I don't see the point watching football if it is just to moan and be negative all the time.

We win, great. We lose, lets just move on, especially now as we can see progress and good patterns of play, not like under previous managers...

Annihilate Now! · Aug 12, 2020

I think we're a good side and I'm generally always pleased with our side after a win (thought we played well on Monday for example) .

However, I always tend to go on the side of caution when predicting games... Not because I think we're crap, just because things won't go our way /the oppo will play well or whatever reason... Because ultimately football was put on this planet to stress me out.

kouroux · Aug 12, 2020

meamth said:
Lindelof is good at nothing.

Daniel James is finished.

Maguire dwells on the ball far too long, clueless.

Brandon Williams is average.

De Gea is now trash.

We would be in better position if we have a better coach.

AWB useless in attack.

tumescent football.

Ole doesn't know when to rest players.

Ole overuse his first 11.

Anything else I missed?

Of course, Pogba is a self centered prick

sammsky1 · Aug 12, 2020

mariachi-19 said:
50% thrive off of the negativity because it gives them something to piss and moan about. United seems to have become an outlet for these people to let their frustrations out from other parts of their lives that they wont/cant deal with.

It really seems that way and surely that’s very unhealthy?!

This wannabe pseudo always critical makes a mockery of the very definition and concept of being a ‘supporter’ or ‘fan’.

I don’t get it.

dove · Aug 12, 2020

Currently we are quite poor and Sevilla can do us especially knowing our shocking record against Spanish teams. We should believe in the club to win these 2 remaining games but realistically speaking after the last 7 disastrous years some people have lost faith that we can do it and who can blame them? Not sure which is worst, moaners or the ones who are borderline deluded thinking we are way better than we actually are.

sammsky1 · Aug 12, 2020

United58 said:
Imagine this place on October 5 when we don't get Sancho

The Sancho transfer thread is maddening example of entitlement and arrogance.

Andy Mitten recently remarked that It’s as though we have a Segment of fans who live purely for transfers and not football. And they are quite vicious in their demands!

Deery · Aug 12, 2020

meamth said:
Lindelof is good at nothing.

Daniel James is finished.

Maguire dwells on the ball far too long, clueless.

Brandon Williams is average.

De Gea is now trash.

We would be in better position if we have a better coach.

AWB useless in attack.

tumescent football.

Ole doesn't know when to rest players.

Ole overuse his first 11.

Anything else I missed?

The AWB is useless in attack one is getting thrown out like a broken record about 50 times a match it’s getting boring now, yeah he’s not fantastic in attack but he’s the best right back we’ve had in years..

sammsky1 · Aug 12, 2020

Eddy_JukeZ said:
This forum would be boring if we were all giddy 100% of the time.

People will have different opinions to yours. Doesn't make them less of a supporter.

How can someone be a ‘supporter’ when moaning and criticising is the very opposite?

Tel074 · Aug 12, 2020

SAFMUTD said:
Im all about being in the UCL for the money, but we dont have a chance there. Its quite sad to know since the start that we're not candidates.

Tell that to the awful Liverpool team who won it

Tel074 · Aug 12, 2020

DarkLord said:
The paranoia is justified. If we can't even beat the worst team left in the competition in 90 minutes, it's going to be a long ride in the Champions League. I actually fear for us against Sevilla.

As soon as you realise it's a game of football and no one will die if we lose to Sevilla the less fearful you will become and you can actually chill and watch the game without giving yourself a stroke .

Siorac · Aug 12, 2020

United58 said:
Imagine this place on October 5 when we don't get Sancho

Surely most people have accepted that we're not going to get him? I can't imagine anyone could be surprised on October 5.

Bilbo · Aug 12, 2020

SAFMUTD said:
Im all about being in the UCL for the money, but we dont have a chance there. Its quite sad to know since the start that we're not candidates.

Depends on what your motives are for supporting this club. If you need us to win trophies to enjoy being a fan, and you feel sadness at the thought of us playing CL because we can't win it, then you should re-evaluate.

Djemba-Djemba · Aug 12, 2020

It's all really annoying.

The top 4 thread in the Football Forum was full of supposed Utd fans constantly posting variations of We're doomed, we're not making top 4, we're shit etc. And it's the same posters now in the Sancho thread constantly posting stuff like, It's not happening, we're not getting him, we're shit etc.

Just proper miserable people who seem to get no enjoyment out of watching Utd.

Web of Bissaka · Aug 12, 2020

It already is a nightmare.

I mean it has always been like this, and personally I prefer it that way. It's definitely more balanced than other forums. Yeah, there are meaningless posts at times which would be better if lessen. Flowery flattering and always positives comments are boring and pointless, as does always negatives, nothing new to learn when that happen. Constructive criticisms or critical criticisms doesn't mean lack of support. A mix of both is best. Best posts is those that consider all angles. Best threads is those that have good balance of both contrasting angles. Emotions can get out of control at times in heated moments but that's being human, as long as it doesn't go overboard. Plus, there are posters here posting for fun, so there'll be sarcastic comments. Relax~

Learn to live with it?

Red00012 · Aug 12, 2020

If we win the Europa League next Friday week you’ll have people saying it means nothing , players still aren’t good enough , Ole is a shit coach blah blah blah.

They’ve already forgotten we finished top 3.

You can’t win

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