MikeUpNorth
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SAF shouldn't be drinking at this age, let alone do Nitrous Oxide or bang Icelandic chicks
SAF shouldn't be drinking at this age, let alone do Nitrous Oxide or bang Icelandic chicks
We have to remember what the bar is and what it prevents him and others of that profile from getting away with, so to speak. That's all.True, but let's be fair.
Greenwood wasn't being judged by a high ceiling of professional standard. He's not being asked to live in celibacy. He still could go out, have fun, have a drink, have a shag. All he's asked is that don't do this during the 3 days official NT trip. I'm a teenager once, and yes I've done stupid things, but at 19 I've learn to at least follow basic group rules, I'd follow University / school rules. I don't smoke at no smoking zone. I learn to respect boundaries.
And this incident doesn't mean he's a bad kid, but if we kept on letting things slide he will become one.
SAF was the best in dealing with things like this not because he let things slide and let the boys have fun.
Iceland incident, 'hippy crack', now this (if true), not enough of a regular basis?Punished for it and we move on. If it happens on a regular basis, then it becomes an issue. I don't care right now though. It's been dealt with.
And it embolds this view for certain people even if its true or not. I cant see why sources like the Star are banned yet we are allowing serious allegations from YouTube nobodies to be made.It does seem like just a pub rumour. I personally would take anything these clowns say with a huge pinch of salt.
Yeah this, I remember @Adnan being close to him or knowing someone close to him. As for this rumour I wouldn't pay particular attention to it, if it hasn't been picked up by the usual suspects yet.I thought Mason has a strict father who hold by the leash in everything he does in and for his career? I remember i read that somewhere on here. Seems like the son is in a 'rebellious' stage right now. Don't see Rooney and Ronaldo doing this at a young age. Please don't throw that talent away
There's no suggestion Greenwood and Williams have literally been out drinking and partying, the quote was "too much of a drinking culture". That can be taken in many ways, including staying up too late with mates. Ole himself said something along the lines of Greenwood stays up too late playing Playstation when he should be in bed, so there's typical 18-year-old lifestyle issues at play here.Iceland incident, 'hippy crack', now this (if true), not enough of a regular basis?
Not sure it would. He'd be hooked on crack and planning bank jobs by the end of the week.An old man from yesteryear ? a 20 minute chat with Ravel would probably be more helpful for him.
Heard from where? He’s been credited by the boss for his work ethic during lock down. So what greater insight does some newb on the Caf have?I've heard Greenwood ain't a good trainer. The rest is just him being a normal teenager. All the best players have a flaw and his is perfectly understandable. Cantona now is lauded as an angel who never missed training and stayed back for extra homework. But I remember different.
What are you talking about? When a player in Manchetser fecking united do stupid things, the press will know whatever he do to try to hide it, this is why playing for united comes with conditions that should be met. He should be a professional on and off the pitch. no excuse he is 19.I said it in another thread but after what happened on England duty the last thing we should be doing is spreading and encouraging rumours about Greenwood. If it turns out he has done something like this then we need to let the club deal with it internally, the last thing we want is the Sun and the Mirror gunning for him from every angle.
Its odd that neither were in the squad on Saturday though isnt it? Especially Greenwood...Wow. People have really bought in to this story again because some makes one or two comments on their YouTube channel.
This ‘new’ information is more than likely to be absolute nonsense and just possible mud slinging
Agreed.What are you talking about? When a player in Manchetser fecking united do stupid things, the press will know whatever he do to try to hide it, this is why playing for united comes with conditions that should be met. He should be a professional on and off the pitch. no excuse he is 19.
A little, yes.Its odd that neither were in the squad on Saturday though isnt it? Especially Greenwood...
Really good point bringing that case up. The legions of 'Ravel was nailed on to be one of the greatest ever' people are the reason SAF gave him such a long leash. Cases like Ravel sometimes make an abrupt course correction. It's "worth the risk".stick him in a room with Ravel Morrison for an hour and let him talk about what a great career he’s had.
not unusual behaviour, but we need to nip it in the bud quickly.
It's indeed mildly serious if true. It's very little to nothing to do with the partying itself and everything to do with the underlying developmental psychology.Correct decision by Ole if true. Yes he's young and you have to allow for that but he's not a normal teenager and he needs to understand that.
He's a ridiculous talent so Ole needs to do everything he can to keep him on the straight and narrow.
If it's true then there's an extremely high chance that it's not a coincidence.Both signed new long term contracts few months ago with huge pay rise. Coincidence?
Hence the (if true) part of my comment. Even "too much of a drinking culture" doesn't bode well.There's no suggestion Greenwood and Williams have literally been out drinking and partying, the quote was "too much of a drinking culture". That can be taken in many ways, including staying up too late with mates. Ole himself said something along the lines of Greenwood stays up too late playing Playstation when he should be in bed, so there's typical 18-year-old lifestyle issues at play here.
We've all heard the stories about Giggs and Sharpe, and everyone else for that matter having house parties and going to the Hacienda, it happens and the players grow up when they realise what's at stake.
Don't understand why there seems to be a collection of people on here who can't wait to say Greenwood is the new Ravel Morrison. He'll be fine once he grows up a bit. Hopefully the players around him have a word and he cracks on.
While it could be true it could also be clickbait youtube sites trying to make up lies to generate clicks, like a certain Mark Goldbridge with Fernandes.Its odd that neither were in the squad on Saturday though isnt it? Especially Greenwood...
Is it that odd? Williams hasn't been in the squad for a single Premier League game this season so far.Its odd that neither were in the squad on Saturday though isnt it? Especially Greenwood...
He is not a child ffs. He is a person who have the right to vote and choose governments. He is playing for Manchester fecking united not Swindon town and should be role model for younger players. I dont understand how is it okay to give leeway for stupid actions for someone in his age.His "issues" are the same as any teenager who earns a sh*tload of money per week, I imagine.
This. I thought it's actual news.
He's a professional who only a month ago had a severe disciplinary issue with breaking covid rules and then found taking drugs at a party. So, almost right after doing that (a month later!) he's suspended by Ole for drinking and you're cool because it's a phaseHe’s a kid who’s having new experiences having just become an “adult”. It’s just a phase that everyone goes through. He’ll get over it.
Or.... Ole should tell Greenwood to touch his toes, then kick seven shades of shit out of himAs for Greenwood, I think Ole just has to sit him down and have a quality chat with him.
doing the old hippe smoking aswell wasnt he.The hotel with England and this so two?
Sure, we’ve never seen successful and professional players with tattoos.For me, the signs were there as to his mentality as soon as he appeared plastered in tattoos mid way last season. Yes I know I'm old fashioned but if anybody ever presented themselves for an interview with tattoos, I'd tell them to just get get out, unless I was trying to form a rock band. Tattoos used to be the mark of a rebel, now every moron has them.
Naw it doesn’t alcohol only lasts 12 hours in your blood and 3-5 days in your urineIt’s very easy for the club to identify if (a big if) Greenwood have a drinking problem. Just a single blood test shows the exact alcohol concentration in the body and it lasts long after a month if you drinking on a regular basis. You can basically see if he’s been drinking on the weekend a week after the situation.
Im pretty sure the players do drugtest once a month at least. And perhaps every week in covid times.
Very credible. Both worked at Old Trafford in security roles over the years, I think both now work at Gary's Hotel opposite the ground. They have all the ex players on their channel regularly.Who are these guys and why are they credible?