He isn't a United legend for you?
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Why not, he was brilliant for around 7-8 years, 10 years at the club.
Because I just don’t think he’s been a ‘legend’.
He was a world class shot stopper. He’s never, imo, been a world class GK and he would have walked away had someone not broken a fax machine 3 years ago.
I just don’t picture him as a legend like someone of the level of Charlton etc.
If you put Sir Bobby Charlton as the legend then players like Beckham, Cantona and bunch of others won't be legends too.
whoa there.... i can not unsee that. cantona is legend.
This is derailing this specific thread and I’m not debating who is and who isn’t a legend at our club.
I just don’t think that De Gea is.
It’s purely a personal point of view and can understand why some people think he is. I just don’t agree and feel that the word legend is attached to too many players, too easily these days. If he is, we have had hundreds of legendary players, and I don’t think that is the case
Don’t agree. Maybe our squad is marginal better than Arsenal in total. Arsenal’s offensive line up is as good as ours, maybe better (Aubameyang, Odegaard, Ceballos, Pepe, Wilian (in normal form) and Lancazette), and I also choose Luiz above Lindelof.
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Seriously??????
Yes. Martial, James and Greenwood wouldn’t be starters on Arsenal. Odegaard and Ceballos are better than Fred and McT offensively. Rating Luiz above Lindelof is no sensation.
Behave yourself
At least read the post properly. If Sir Bobby Charlton is the benchmark then Cantona isn't a legend.Behave yourself
He's the ceiling not the benchmark. Very few can get to that level; doesn't mean they're not legends
Well yeah, that was my argument.
Pepe and Lacazette don’t get in our team.
Id argue that Ceballos and Odegaard don’t either.
You appear slightly blinkered on some of the Arsenal players.
Odegaard and Ceballos have done nothing in the PL to indicate that they are going to be anything decent
I'm wondering how Odegaard gets in our side. Most observers agree that when he plays and keeps ESR out of the Arsenal side they don't look anywhere near as fluid. I can see Pepe's abilty even though he cuts a forlorn figure at times but I struggle with the fuss over MO
De Gea is arguably the second best keeper in our history at his peak. He’s almost certainly third behind the Great Dane, and VDS. That makes him a legend in my book!
That’s your issue, you haven’t had your eyes tested in awhile. Arsenals team is nowhere near ours, beyond ridiculous to say it is.
You are being MASSIVELY generous to Arsenal here.
I don’t particularly care where he ranks in terms of our best keeper of all time.
That isn’t the barometer for a legend in my opinion.
Being PotY for a couple of seasons in our worst team for 30 years is not a barometer either.
Harsh but fair enough, your opinion.
Mods this thread is off the rails ffs @Damien
This is a very good point, and something that I’ve pointed out in the past. When a signing is good, it’s always the manager’s signing, and when they don’t do well it’s a “club signing” that was forced on the manager.
Did you read the post I replied to before deciding to give a snarky reply? The poster in question said Bout does this at an academy level, not a senior level. My post was saying he might be a good prospect for such a post at the senior level.
Snarky? Ooh we are sensitive today. Personally I don’t give a shit whether he’s doing it at u12 level or pensioner level. It’s not going to change a thing. We aren’t appointing a DOF
You are absolutely correct. He's been a very good player don't get me wrong but I'm not even 30 yet and he's a distant third best goalkeeper in my time watching us.
I'd be incredibly loathe to list our third best keeper of the last 25 years as a "legend", especially when you think back to some of the other goalkeepers we had who made hundreds of appearances before my time such as Stepney, Gregg, Bailey to name just three.
Not in this universe.
Heard rumours we are about to announce someone. Anyone heard similar?
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Hell really has frozen over innit...
It’s on SSN.
internal promotion, John someone
very underwhelming andI get the feeling the club just want everyone to shut up about it
John Murtaugh was just announced
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The Matt Judge news could be huge. Anything to keep Woody away from the negotiating table.
Pleased for Fletcher. He understands United and should work well with any manager who has similar values (including Ole).
Never heard of John Murtough.
Don’t know why, just feels underwhelming but I guess time will tell whether this is a good appointment or not.
Don’t know why, just feels underwhelming but I guess time will tell whether this is a good appointment or not.
Hmm. Darren fletcher. Not sure what his credentials are but at least there could be some stability within the club when transitioning between managers.
This is going to go down well with the 'nepotism' crowd on hereHasnt Judge always been negotiating though?
He'll be Fletcher's aging black sidekick who's getting too old for this shit.
Wasn't Judge already going that, without the official title? Sounds like a way to deflect any possible criticism from Woodward.
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